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Title: Helt, Joseph 1/16/1987
Description: Ellenville, NY Endangered Missing


Begood - October 26, 2010 08:22 PM (GMT)
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Endangered Missing
JOSEPH HELT
DOB: Jul 18, 1969
Missing: Jan 16, 1987
Age Now: 41
Sex: Male
Race: White
Hair: Blonde
Eyes: Brown
Height: 5'9" (175 cm)
Weight: 150 lbs (68 kg)
Missing From:
ELLENVILLE
NY
United States


Both photos shown are of Joseph. He was last seen on January 16, 1987, hiking near Sam's Point ice caves in Ellenville, New York. Joseph was last seen wearing, a camouflage jacket, a t-shirt, a long sleeve thermal shirt, a grey hooded sweatshirt, and white high-top tennis shoes.
ANYONE HAVING INFORMATION SHOULD CONTACT
National Center for Missing & Exploited Children
1-800-843-5678 (1-800-THE-LOST)

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New York State Police- Ellenville (New York) 1-845-626-2800

Begood - October 26, 2010 08:23 PM (GMT)
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tatertot - January 13, 2011 09:34 PM (GMT)
http://www.shawangunkjournal.com/2011/01/1...ws/1101130.html

What Happened to Joe Helt?
Missing Teen Still Haunts Village After 24 Years
By Tod Westlake

ELLENVILLE – The flyers began appearing in Ellenville storefront windows shortly before the holidays. The flyers contain two faded images of a smiling teenager who went missing January 16, 1987, never to be found. But those who actually knew the missing teen, Joe Helt, haven't forgotten about him.

Helt's disappearance, in fact, remains an open wound for those relatives and friends of his still living in the Ellenville community — so much so that several of them have gotten together and started a Facebook group. The group, called "In Support of Joe Helt," now has more than 300 members, many of whom have posted messages remembering Joe. The group, in fact, is planning a candlelight vigil to be held at the Pioneer Fire Hall Sunday, January16, at 5 p.m., the twenty-foutrh anniversary of Joe's disappearance. And all of them appear to want only one thing: to know what, exactly, happened to Joe on Mount Cathalia that cold January night more than two decades ago. They hope to find something — anything — that would allow them to put to rest this sad episode of local history.

As it turns out, these Facebook friends are not alone. Ellenville Police Chief Phil Mattracion says that the investigation into Joe's disappearance is something that his office revisits several times each year, and that the Ellenville Police Department is working with the state police in order to retrace the steps of the 24-year-old investigation.


THE DISAPPEARANCE

What is clear, however, is that Joe was partying that night with several friends at the derelict Mount Cathalia Lodge. In the wee hours of Saturday morning, Joe — with acquaintances John LaForge, Wade Marks and Kelly Diaz — went for a joyride in LaForge's Subaru in the area near the Sam's Point Ice Caves. The car apparently got stuck in a ditch, but the four young men were unable to push it out. After some minutes, Joe lost his patience and decided to walk the approximate five miles back down to the village. Shortly after this, according to reports, Marks and Diaz also left, leaving LaForge on his own. Shortly after this, LaForge, too, gave up and went home.

But Joe apparently never made it off the mountain, as this was the last time he was seen. LaForge and his companions that night said that they had expected to perhaps run into Joe on the way down the hill, but didn't really think anything of the fact that they didn't catch up with him, as he had a significant head start. It wasn't until after LaForge had retrieved his car from the mountain the following afternoon that he learned that Joe had never made it home.

Over the following days, searchers combed the area around Sam's Point. NY State Forest Rangers, state police helicopters, and tracking dogs were brought in — to no avail. In fact, no apparent trace of Joe has ever been found.

Beth Churchill, Joe's aunt, says that her memories of that weekend, and of Joe's disappearance, are quite good.

"I remember this as clear as day," Churchill says.

She says that her late sister Lee Helt, Joe's mother, was very upset because Joe didn't show up for his shift at the Auction Barn in Napanoch, where the two worked together. This was Saturday evening, according to Churchill, and it had just started flurrying. Later that night, Churchill says, the storm's fury came down upon the ridge.

"By the time the search party had made it up there, it had already started snowing," Churchill says.

The searchers did all they could, under the circumstances, but the conditions were terrible according to contemporaneous news accounts. Over the next several days the snow accumulated. Worse, high winds led to 10-foot high snow drifts that made even the best-maintained roads and trails virtually impassable.


BEST FRIENDS

Armando Rodriguez, now the owner and operator of A-Rod's Barber Shop, grew up with Joe. The two, in fact, were usually inseparable.

"We went to school together," Rodriguez says. "I knew him since we were probably about eight years old."

Rodriguez says that once he and his family moved to Napanoch, he and Joe became regular companions.

"We had the same interests. We both love the outdoors," Rodriguez says.

He says that one of the main reasons that he and Joe "clicked" is that the two, like many teenagers, were into the same bands.

"But what really brought us together was the love of music," Rodriguez says.

The two really hit it off when it came to their shared appreciation of the flamboyant rock band KISS.

"We were into KISS, AC/DC," Rodriguez says. "That's it. We just hit it off and were always hanging out."

Because of this, Rodriguez says that he has never been able to fully get over Joe's disappearance. Rodriguez was at the Mount Cathalia Lodge the night Joe disappeared, and says that Joe had approached him asking if the two could hang out together.

"[The lodge] had one of those old-fashioned fire pits," Rodriguez says. "We all used to sit around it."

Rodriguez says that there was a fairly good sized group at the lodge that night. However, he was driving a pickup truck that night, and didn't have room for Joe because he was with two other people.

"I remember that night, clearly, that he wanted to come with me," Rodriguez says. "But I couldn't take him. I was having such a good time, and I was with these [two other] guys, and I had no room in the truck."

The next day, when Rodriguez heard that Joe was missing, he joined the search for his missing friend.

"I remember it snowed like crazy," he says. "There were five-foot drifts; I was up to my waist."

The presence of so much snow, in addition to making the search so difficult, also would have impeded search dogs' ability to follow a trail, Rodriguez feels.

"Everything was covered up," he says.

As for what may have happened to Joe, Rodriguez says that he would prefer not to speculate. What he does know, however, is that he feels that he let his friend down.

"I feel like I wasn't much of a friend," he says. "I've lived with this now for 24 years, that I could have helped him out."

He also feels, rather strongly, that the local community didn't do enough to find out what happened to one of its own.

"All of you [guys] looked down your noses at me and him, because we didn't fit in with you guys at that time," he says. "And now you all want to lend your support. But, you know what? In school you weren't too nice to us."

Rodriguez says that he can't help but feel this way, given the circumstances. He just wants to know what happened to his friend all those years ago.

"Until the day when we find out what happened, I can't put this to rest," Rodriquez says.


THE CURRENT INVESTIGATION

Chief Mattracion says that he can't help but remember the Helt case, as it remains one of those mysteries that can really get under one's skin. The case, in fact, happened early in Mattracion's career when he was still a patrolman.

"It's a very tragic case," Mattracion says. "I've been here 25 years, and it happened in the first three months I was on the job."

Mattracion did want to clarify, however, that missing persons cases are never closed, at least until such time that evidence is produced that would indicate the person's fate. He says that he has revisited the case at least a couple of times each year, so the investigation remains ongoing.

Mattracion does admit that the case has gotten under his skin just a bit.

"What really bothers me is that his mother never found out what happened to her son," Mattracion says. "I knew Lee very well, and I know the Helt family. It's always a tragic thing when you can't put closure on something like this."

Churchill confirms Mattracion's assertion.

"Obviously, it's something you don't just forget," she says. "We all know he's not coming home; we know he's not going to come walking through the door. But it's really hard because my sister, she never found out the answers of what happened to her son."

Lee Helt passed away several years ago. Her final request was to have her ashes scattered on the mountain on which her son disappeared — a request her family and friends honored.

If you are interested in joining Joe's Facebook page, search on "In Support of Joe Helt." And if you think you may have information that can help police figure out what happened to Joe, contact Ellenville police at 845-647-4422.

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A few stone walls are all that remain of the old Mount Cathalia Lodge, one of the last places Joe Helt was seen on the night of his disappearance twenty-four years ago. Photo by Chris Rowley

tatertot - January 13, 2011 09:35 PM (GMT)

tatertot - January 17, 2011 03:40 PM (GMT)
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Candlelight vigil honors teen missing for 24 years
By Keith Goldberg
Times Herald-Record
Published: 2:00 AM - 01/17/11

ELLENVILLE — Tracy Helt left her hometown about eight years ago. She doesn't like coming back here — too many bad memories.

But she was at the Pioneer Fire Hall in the village's center Sunday evening. She was there for her little brother.

Twenty-four years ago Sunday, 17-year-old Joe Helt walked down Sam's Point Road from the Shawangunk Ridge, trying to get to his Ellenville home.

He never made it.

Twenty-four years is a long time for a missing-person case to remain unsolved. Enough time for many to forget about it.

Unless you're close to Joe Helt.

"I don't ever stop thinking about it," Tracy Helt said.

"It feels like yesterday," says Joe's aunt, Beth Churchill, who helped organize a Sunday candlelight vigil at the fire hall and hopes the renewed attention will help solve Joe's disappearance.

The most frustrating part of these past 24 years, Churchill said, is that no one has found a trace of Joe Helt.

It's as if the ridge had swallowed him up.

"Something would have turned up," Churchill said. "It seems hard to believe."

His loved ones harbor no illusions they'll ever see Joe alive again. All they want is to find out what happened to him.

"Just settle it," said Joe's grandmother, Betty Houseman. "So it's not something to keep wondering about."

About 50 people showed up at Sunday's vigil: friends, family, including a younger sister Joe Helt never met. As music from the group AC/DC played softly from a set of laptop computer speakers — Joe was a heavy-metal fan — the people were handed lit candles secured in paper cups. Including Tracy Helt, here with her two daughters.

She and Joe were close. They liked the same music; they'd go swimming and rock climbing together, up on the ridge.

Three days after Joe went missing, Tracy knew he was dead. "He never stayed out that long without calling," she said.

Tracy doesn't celebrate holidays anymore. She has a picture of Joe on her wall at home; she has to explain who he is to her daughters.

"It hit me hard, it hurt me really bad," she said.

She still hurts 24 years later. As for the answer of what happened to her little brother, Tracy Helt looks up to the ridge.

"I know it's buried in the mountain," she said.

Seeking information

Anyone with information on the disappearance of Joe Helt should call Ellenville police at 647-4422 or state police in Ellenville at 626-2800.

monkalup - February 12, 2011 03:58 PM (GMT)
Decades Old Disappearance Still Haunts New York Town
By PEI-SZE CHENG
Updated 9:48 AM EST, Sat, Feb 12, 2011

National Center for Missing & Exploited Children

Twenty four years have passed but the sting of not knowing what happened to her nephew, still haunts Beth Churchill. Joe Helt was just 17 years old when he vanished without a trace.

“It hurts to not know,” said Churchill. “I’d like to feel that my sister got her answers.”

But sadly, she never did. Leann Helt died of cancer in 2007, though she spent much of her life searching for answers.

“She didn’t want to give up hope. No one wants to lose a child but in the end she came to terms with it I think.”


It was January 17, 1987. Helt was hanging out with his friends at the old Mount Cathalia lodge, a popular gathering spot. According to police, Helt went for a ride with three friends. But when their car got stuck in the snow near icy Sam’s Point Road, Helt decided to walk home -- in the dark. That was the last time anyone saw him.

His friends made it home without incident but Helt seemingly disappeared. State Police sent a helicopter over the mountain to search for him but one day after he went missing, the area was hit with a tremendous snowstorm and many fear the snow may have buried all clues.

“It extremely hampered the ability of the search efforts,” said Captain Joseph Tripodo of the New York State Police.

Police say the three teenagers, all male, who went for a ride with Helt were never named as suspects in Helt’s disappearance. Because no body, no clothing, not even a shoe was ever recovered, Helt's disappearance has become local folklore.

“People believe that he took off and never came back. People believe he fell into a crevice,” said Jackie Mennella, a high school friend of Helts. “There are a million stories. What actually happened, I have no idea.”

Mennella and others have started a page on Facebook, dedicated to finding the truth about Helt’s disappearance.

“We’re really hoping for something to click in somebody’s head,” said Mennella. “Maybe someone will say, hey, wait a minute. Maybe I should tell somebody this.”

If you have any information you are urged to call State Police in Ellenville at 845-626-2800.

http://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/local-beat/...-116025154.html

monkalup - February 12, 2011 04:03 PM (GMT)

monkalup - February 12, 2011 04:05 PM (GMT)
By Kevin Gleason
Times Herald-Record
Published: 2:00 AM - 01/15/11

CRAGSMOOR — A series of rectangular stone walls are all that remain from the Mount Cathalia ski lodge off Route 52 just outside the Village of Ellenville.

The temperature is 20 degrees with the ground covered by recent snowfall, elements similar to that early morning 24 years ago when a 17-year-old Ellenville High junior named Joseph Helt vanished.

"This is where everything was," Helt's friend, Jackie Mennella, said, pointing to the stone structures. "They were here."
REMEMBERING JOE HELT

There will be a candlelight vigil for Joe Helt from 5-7 p.m. Sunday at the Pioneer Fire Hall, 73 Center St., Ellenville.

Ellenville Police Chief Philip Mattracion asks anybody with information to call him at 647-4422, or e-mail him at pmattracion@villageofellenville.com, or call the state police in Ellenville at 626-2800.

Helt and others spent part of Friday, Jan. 16, 1987, near those stone walls. The burned-out lodge was a popular partying spot for local kids. According to witnesses, Helt went for a ride with three friends up icy Sam's Point Road on the Shawangunk Ridge. Their car got stuck in a snowy ditch about 3 a.m. and Helt, frustrated by futile attempts to rescue the vehicle, started walking down the hill toward his home in Ellenville.

He was never seen again.

Helt failed to show up for work the next day at the Auction Barn in Napanoch. Law enforcement officers, forest rangers and volunteers began a full-fledged search Sunday. State police canines were brought in Monday, but were unable to pick up a scent as search teams fanned out across the Ridge near the Ice Caves Mountain.

On Tuesday, challenged by a massive snowstorm, rescuers called off the search. Helt, a heavy-metal fan with a flair for art and a million-dollar smile, was presumed dead.

Yet, down off the mountain in Ellenville, a cozy Ulster County village of 4,000, rumors continue to fly among family and friends scarred by Helt's mysterious disappearance. Not a scrap of clothing, not a shoe or a sock — nothing — has been found. Some folks wonder how there could be no trace of Helt. Others believe the ridge, dotted by cliffs, rocks and deep crevices could have claimed him.

"I want to make it clear that it's a missing-persons case," Ellenville police Chief Philip Mattracion said. "We have no evidence to suggest it's anything but a missing-persons case, not a homicide case. It was pitch black out; there was snow; there were a lot of things for him to contend with. He could have slipped off a rock and fallen off into a crevice and you could never find anything."

Yet, Mattracion said, "It's extremely mysterious to me. It always has been."

Hope for new leads

The case has been active throughout the years, Mattracion said, with his department assisting state police in Ellenville.

"We've re-interviewed people, picked up people. ... I can tell you we have aggressively pursued any and all information," he said.

Mattracion hopes a renewed awareness of Helt's disappearance can produce leads. Perhaps somebody found a piece of clothing and discarded it without thought. Anything.

"There is absolutely a chance there are still clues there, legitimate physical evidence to help us out and put the pieces together," Mattracion said.

Joe Helt's mom, Lee Ann, died in 2007 and his father, Christopher, passed away nine months later, both of cancer. Lee Ann often went up to a gazebo in the Sam's Point area in which Joe's name was carved. She had her ashes scattered in the area.

"She believed he was up there somewhere," said Beth Churchill, Lee Ann's sister.

Reunion sparks interest

"I won't be able to rest until we find out the truth," said Helt's close friend, Armando Rodriguez.

Friends recently opened a Facebook page "In Support of Joe Helt." While planning a reunion for this year, they talked about feeling badly that Helt had not been acknowledged by his class in the school yearbook, and that his disappearance had not been solved.

Former classmate Gina Schuster has dropped reunion planning to focus her energy on raising awareness of Helt's disappearance. She didn't know him well and was painfully shy. Yet, Helt was one of the few kids who noticed her.

"I could only muster enough courage to mumble a whisper of a hello in return," Schuster said, "but that never stopped him. He always said hello to me. His smile was so warm and welcoming. I often thought that he saw the sadness in my eyes."

"I've never forgotten about him,'' Mennella said. "He was a great artist. He used to draw on my hands and duplicate album covers. I just loved him. He was very funny, a good sense of humor. He was the sweetest guy. He didn't deserve anything that happened to him.''

kgleason@th-record.com
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monkalup - February 12, 2011 04:09 PM (GMT)


FOR JOE HELT


On January 16, 1987, our classmate, Joe Helt, was with several friends near the Mount Cathalia/Sam's Point area when he disappeared without a trace. Ellenville Central School students felt the shock, horror and disbelief of Joe's disappearance back in 1987 and we still do to this day. Known to his friends as a kind, honest and good hearted soul, Joe has been missed all these years. Joe, please know that while we don't yet know what happened to you, we all carry you in our hearts. We are with you....wherever you are. Please join our support group for Joe on facebook, "In Support of Joe Helt" at http://www.facebook.com/home.php?sk=group_...9217368108&ap=1

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monkalup - February 12, 2011 04:13 PM (GMT)
JOSEPH DAVID HELT
Case Type: Endangered Missing
DOB: Jul 18, 1969 Sex: Male
Missing Date: Jan 16, 1987 Race: White
Age Now: 41 Height: 5'9" (175 cm)
Missing City: ELLENVILLE Weight: 150 lbs (68 kg)
Missing State : NY Hair Color: Blonde
Missing Country: United States Eye Color: Brown
Case Number: NCMC1150362
Circumstances: Both photos shown are of Joseph. He was last seen on January 16, 1987, hiking near Sam's Point ice caves in Ellenville, New York. Joseph was last seen wearing, a camouflage jacket, a t-shirt, a long sleeve thermal shirt, a grey hooded sweatshirt, and white high-top tennis shoes.
http://www.missingkids.com/missingkids/ser...earchLang=en_US

Pilgrim - October 9, 2011 03:14 AM (GMT)

monkalup - January 17, 2012 04:40 AM (GMT)
http://nancygrace.blogs.cnn.com/2012/01/16...ain/?hpt=ng_mid
05:06 PM ET

Vigil to mark 25 years since teen vanished on mountain

A vigil is scheduled for Monday night to remember a New York teenager who disappeared 25 years ago.

Family and friends of Joe Helt are gathering at the Pioneer Fire Hall in Ellenville on January 16, marking the anniversary of the night the 17-year-old was last seen leaving the abandoned Mount Cathalia lodge with three other teens after a party. According to the Daily Freeman, those teens later told police that their car got stuck in a ditch as they headed out of the mountains toward Ellenville and Helt decided to walk the five miles back to town alone.
Joe Helt
Joe Helt

YNN reported that the search for Helt went on for six days afterward but was eventually called off because of bad weather and dangerous terrain.

Gina Schuster, a former classmate who runs a Facebook page devoted to Helt’s case, told the Shawangunk Journal that his family deserves answers and suggested there must be more to the story of what happened that night.

“Nobody disappears into thin air,” Schuster said.

monkalup - January 17, 2012 04:43 AM (GMT)
http://hudsonvalley.ynn.com/content/top_st...after-25-years/
ELLENVILLE, N.Y. -- It's been 25 years since Joseph Helt disappeared. On January 16, 1987, Helt disappeared while out with friends in Ellenville. That prompted a massive search in the Hudson Valley, which didn't turn up any leads.

He was last seen with three friends when their car got stuck in a ditch and they could not get it out. They said that Joe left to walk the five miles back down the mountain into Ellenville for help.

Joe did not show up for work the next day and the search began. A massive snow storm hit the area which hampered the search. The search for Helt lasted six days but was called off due to the weather and mountainous terrain.

Helt would have been 42 years old in July.

monkalup - January 17, 2012 04:44 AM (GMT)

mimi - July 25, 2012 01:33 PM (GMT)
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Ellenville, New York, case still haunts town

By Gina Schuster
Guest Contributor, MPN
Updated 1:55pm CST, July 16, 2012

It was January 16, 1987, when Joseph David Helt, age 17, from Ellenville NY, left a party with three acquaintances and mysteriously disappeared into the night. For 25 years, no trace of him has ever been found. On Friday, January 16, 1987, just like many other Friday nights, Joe and other teenagers from Ellenville, NY were going up to the usual party spot, the old Mount Cathalia ski lodge. It was in Cragsmoor, just 3 miles outside of Ellenville. The ski lodge had been long ago abandoned, having been partially burned in the late 1970s. But the building next to the lodge, which served as a full bar with a fire pit when the lodge was in operation, remained intact. It was this building that the kids used as a party spot.

During the evening, Joe spent time at Mt. Cathalia talking with different people and at one point he got into a fight with three particular individuals: John LaForge, 21, Wade Marks, 18, and Kelly Diaz,16. The fight got so heated that people started to move away, for fear that it was about to get physical. After the fight Joe nervously asked someone for a ride home, but this person already had a car full of people and could not take Joe. About an hour later, Joe left the party with these three individuals in LaForge’s car. Little did Joe’s friends know that was the last time anyone would see him.

Mt. Cathalia
From the point that Joe left the party, the only people to see him were the three in the car with him. They claim that they went for a ride down a road not far from the party called Sam’s Point Road, about 2 1/2 miles away. They claim that the car got stuck in a ditch about 1 mile from the Sam’s Point Preserve gatehouse, and that after several failed attempts to get the car out, Joe got upset and left the car to walk the 5+ miles back to Ellenville. By this time it was around 3:30am in the middle of January. Joe wasn’t wearing a winter coat (he had a camouflage jacket and sweatshirt on) and he did not have gloves or a hat. He was wearing high top sneakers. No winter gear at all. Marks and Diaz claim to have left 20 minutes later and walked the 2+ miles to Marks house (which was less than 1/4 mile from the original party at Mt. Cathalia in Cragsmoor). Ten minutes later LaForge claims to have walked the 2+ miles to his house, which was also in Cragsmoor. Whatever really happened that night, three made it safely back home, but Joe was never seen again.

Rescue workers got up to the mountain the night of Sat. Jan. 17th to start the search. It started to flurry that night, and over the next few days a huge snow storm moved into the area dumping over 2 feet of snow on the area. The search was called off after just 6 days. Even through the storm, search and rescue teams scoured the mountain for 6 days, searching near Sam’s Point and the surrounding area. The search teams included NY State Forest Rangers, State Police helicopters, tracking dogs, local police, local volunteer firefighters and numerous friends, relatives and neighbors. But nothing was ever found, no trace of Joe, no evidence that he had even been on the mountain. Joe simply disappeared without a trace. In fact, one of the NYS DEC rangers stated in newspaper articles that no tracks were ever found where the three claimed the car got stuck. He also voiced his belief that there was more to this story than was told. (see article in Times Herald Record, 4/1/1990 “Mystery on Mountain Goes Unsolved” http://tinyurl.com/76dyo3b . After spring came and the snow thawed, additional search efforts commenced, but no trace of Joe was ever found.

Within weeks of Joe’s disappearance, Wade Marks was mysteriously packed up by his father and shipped to Tennessee to live with his mother. After many years in Tennessee (Hamilton County), and a very brief return to New York, Wade moved to Vermont where he still lives to this day.

Witnesses have come forward, each of whom had direct conversation with Kelly, Wade and or John. Within these witness accounts, the three each made different statements indicating that their initial account of the night’s events were inaccurate and that there was a physical confrontation between Joe the three. One of the three even made statements of questionable behavior on the part of one of the three that led to something happening to Joe.

In a Times Herald Record article dated Jan. 20th, entitled “Buddies Join in Search on Ridge“, LaForge told the reporter that Marks called him at 3:30pm on Sat. Jan 17th to tell him that Joe was missing. However, no one knew that Joe was actually missing until after 5pm on Sat. Jan 17th. LaForge is quoted in the article stating that he and Wade had knowledge that Joe was missing a full two hours before it was known that he was actually missing. Joe’s mother, Lee Ann, had expected Joe to stay with friends the night of the 16th and then go to work the night of the 17th at the Napanoch Auction Barn. When Joe failed to show up for his shift, his boss, Vic, called Joe’s mother, who then checked around for Joe and when it became apparent that Joe was nowhere to be found, she contacted Ellenville Police.

Joe’s case was assigned in 2010 to a State Police Detective, Thomas Fortuna, and a missing persons flier was put together. It was at that time, 23 years after Joe disappeared, that he was first registered with the National Center for Missing and Exploited Children. Joe’s case was added to the NYS Police Missing Person’s site in April 2011. Why he was never added to these sites earlier remains a mystery. Curiously, in an NBC interview in February 2011, a NYS Police spokesperson stated that the three have never and are not considered persons of interest or suspects (http://tinyurl.com/7y8jalv).

New evidence has recently come to light which has given a couple of new leads to investigators. The investigators are in the process of following these leads right now. If things are followed up on, these leads could very well lead to answers in Joe’s case. You can read more about Joe’s case on facebook at https://www.facebook.com/Justice.For.Joe.Helt.. You can read news articles, watch news videos and take a look at photos of Joe on the website: http://forjoehelt.webs.com/. Joe’s family is currently raising a reward for information in his case. To donate, please go to https://www.facebook.com/Justice.For.Joe.He...117708921611213.

If you have a tip, no matter how small you may think it to be, we urge you to call the lead investigator in Joe’s case, Mr. Thomas Fortuna of the NYS Police. His direct phone number is 845-626-2863. You can also reach the private investigator working with Joe’s family, Mr. Robert Rahn, at 1-800-490-2267. Additional news accounts on Joe’s case from 1987 to current: http://forjoehelt.webs.com/apps/links/ Cold case feature articles on Joe’s case: http://forjoehelt.webs.com/apps/blog/

Video news footage and blog talk radio episodes on Joe’s case: http://forjoehelt.webs.com/apps/videos/

About the Author
Gina Schuster was Joe Helt’s classmate in high school in 1987 when he disappeared. She is presently working with Joe’s aunt, Beth Churchill and Joe’s close friend, Jackie Mennella, to raise awareness for Joe’s case through social media and an independent website. Gina worked for years as an accountant and later as a marketing director in charge of the health insurance division for a business to business marketing firm until 2007 when complex and degenerative spinal and nerve issues forced her to stop working. While she is presently in a wheelchair and very physically limited, she is passionate about finding answers for Joe, for his family and for all who love and care for Joe.

monkalup - August 3, 2012 10:21 PM (GMT)
Seen At 11: Finally, A Break In A Quarter Century-Old Upstate N.Y. Cold Case?
The Mystery Of Joe Helt's Disappearance Has Weighed On Ellenville Since 1987
August 2, 2012 11:31 PM
For 25 years no one has determined what really happened to Joe Helt up on a mountain near Ellenville, N.Y. Now, one woman says she knows for certain. (Photo: CBS 2)
ELLENVILLE, N.Y. (CBS 2) – Twenty five years after a local teenager disappeared, a woman has come forward claiming she knows what happened to him.

Her chilling story is bringing new attention to the case of Joe Helt, a young man who vanished one night.

CBS 2’s Lou Young recently spoke exclusively to the woman giving police a break in the cold case.

“It’s sad. They murdered him,” witness Shari Schwartz said.

After 25 years, Schwartz said she can’t forget the high school classmate who vanished on the mountain near Ellenville in January 1987. Helt is listed as a missing person, but Schwartz said he was really murdered in a fight over marijuana. She claims two of the last people to see Helt alive essentially confessed to her at the high school shortly after he vanished.

“He said ‘Joe’s not coming back. Joe’s dead,’ and (the other person) told him to shut the (expletive) up, grabbed him and pulled him out of the room. He said it to my face,” Schwartz told CBS 2’s Young.

At the time, Schwartz was 17 years old. She said she told the principal and presumed leads were being followed.

Helt was last seen at the site of an abandoned ski lodge, which has since burned down. Witnesses told police he argued with three other young men, including the two who allegedly spoke with Schwartz, before driving off with them into a snowstorm. They told police he left on foot when the car got stuck. A six-day search turned up nothing.

“No one talked about him. It was like, ‘Joe disappeared, let’s move on,’” classmate Gina Schuster said.

Former classmates recently set up a Facebook page dedicated to finding out what really happened to their friend.

“The reality is something happened to him. He’s the only one that didn’t come back,” Jackie Manella said.

“He was not mentioned in our yearbook at all. We were doing the reunion and we scrapped it because Joe needed our attention,” Schuster added.

Schwartz, who now lives out of state, said she saw the Facebook page and couldn’t believe a homicide investigation had never even been opened. She contacted police a few weeks ago and gave a formal statement.

“I don’ think they believe me,” Schwartz said, adding when asked if she would take a lie detector test, “Absolutely, I welcome it. I would never give a family false hope. That would make me as bad as those three boys that murdered him, ’cause that’s what they did.”

State police though remain unimpressed. They said whatever happened up on that mountain in Ellenville remains a missing persons case, not a homicide. One detective told Young, “We don’t have a body, we don’t have a crime.”

Private investigators working with the family said the case deserves a new look at possible suspects. Bob Rahn is a former NYPD homicide detective.

“It’s the first bit of credible information that we have received or anybody has received about this case since Joe went missing,” Rahn said.

Helt’s mother died never knowing what happened to her son. His aunt said she believes the silence has gone on too long.

“My feeling is somebody knows what happened to my nephew. Someone knows where he ended up that night,” Beth Churchill said.

Was it murder, an accident or something else? State police insisted they have no reason to classify Helt as anything but a missing person.

http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2012/08/02/see...-n-y-cold-case/

monkalup - August 11, 2012 03:50 AM (GMT)
Updated 08/09/2012 10:30 AM
Woman comes forward about missing persons case
By: Alexandra Weishaupt

A local community has new hope 25 years after a local teen vanished. Family members say a woman has come forward claiming that there may be more to this missing persons case. YNN’s Alexandra Weishaupt has more on the new claims.

ELLENVILLE, N.Y. --A new claim from an old friend is shedding light on the missing person’s case of Joseph Helt, a teen who disappeared on a mountain near Ellenville on a cold January night in 1987.

“She was a classmate of Joe’s and she has stated that there was a conversation between her and one of the other people that were with Joe that night,” said Beth Churchill, Joe’s aunt.

According to the woman, two of those people confessed to her shortly after Joe’s disappearance that he was murdered in a fight over marijuana. It’s a shocking claim to Joe’s aunt.

“I never heard it. She said that she reported it to a school official back then and being that she was a kid herself, she thought that she did the right thing and you know, she’s standing by what she said,” said Churchill.

And for friends of Joe’s, it’s a lead long overdue.

“It took long enough. How can these people live with themselves all these years, if that is the case? What kind of heart do they have,” asked Armando Rodriguez, Arod’s Barber Shop owner.

And as many questions remain unanswered, there’s one thing that Joe’s aunt says she does know

“I know he’s not coming home. Whether it was an accident or something else I don’t know, but he’s not here,” said Churchill.

She says not placing blame on anyone, but isn’t ruling out the claim.

“I’m not doubting her words,” said Churchill.

Police aren’t ruling out the claim either, although they aren’t commenting on any leads as it remains an open, active investigation.

“Any information that comes either to the state police or this agency, that information, or any leads that may develop as a result of that are investigated to its fullest, they are exhausted until we can find no more avenues to explore,” said Chief Phil Mattraciom of the Ellenville Police Department.

And together the community remains hopeful that the case can be resolved and they'll get closure they’ve been waiting for for 25 years.

“If there is anybody else with information maybe they’ll come forward also now that they’ve heard that she has,” said Churchill.

“Hopefully we can finally put this to rest so that everything can be at rest,” said Rodriguez.

Officials urge anyone with information regarding this case to contact New York State Police.

http://hudsonvalley.ynn.com/content/top_st...g-persons-case/

monkalup - August 31, 2012 12:10 PM (GMT)

Monday, May 30, 2011Joseph Helt: Missing from New York, since 1987

Joe Helt
8/10/12 UPDATE: Gina did an interview with me a year ago about Joe (scroll about mid way down to read that interview) and now I have heard that a person has come forward with information about Joe.

There has been what was called "third-party" information brought to the attention of the police before, but nothing ever came of it. I am not sure if this info below is one of the original "third-party" conversations that Gina mentioned when I talked to her last year, or if it is something new. Also, you will see an July 19 update below from CNN where the police told the family that they were "are swamped", "too busy" and "are going on vacation again next week", therefore they do not have the time to follow up on solid leads which were brought to their attention 7 weeks ago."

Here is the new info:



"Joe and (the friend) got in a fight over weed and (the friend) pushed him off the mountain," said Shari Schwartz, who sat behind Joe in class.

Schwartz said she heard two classmates talking about Joe and that he was missing during class on Jan. 21. She asked them when Joe was coming back and they said he wasn't because he was dead, said Schwartz.

The other classmate "told him to shut the * up and pulled him out of the room," said Schwartz.

Schwartz promptly reportedly the conversation to the Ellenville High School principal, but she said the information never made its way into police files.
"It was brushed under the rug," Schwartz said.

"Finally, after all these years, somebody has come forward (with information)," said Bob Rahn, an ex-NYPD homicide detective assisting the family.


7/19/12 UPDATE: An interesting article came out concerning the police investigating Joe's case. Click here to read.

This interview below is originally posted on the Examiner. There is a possibility that Joseph is still out there or someone somewhere knows something about Joe and his disappearance.

The funny thing about cold cases, is that they can be solved because people will finally come forward after many years to tell what they know. I am hoping that is the case, here.

Interview:

Gina Schuster is a friend and classmate of missing Joseph Helt who disappeared on January 16, 1987.

Gina and Joe both attended Ellenville High School in Ellenville, New York, when Joe disappeared, and Gina never forgot him. She is doing all she can now, to bring attention to Joe's disappearance.

I spoke with Gina and she agreed to do an interview and let all my readers know about Joe's story.

Examiner: What did you hear about Joe's disappearance?

Gina: On January 16, 1987, Joe went out late that night partying with friends at a local party spot, the remnants of the old Mount Cathalia Ski Lodge in Cragsmoor NY (which is just outside of Ellenville NY). Joe left the party to take a ride with three acquaintances, Kelly Diaz, Wade Marks and John "JP" LaForge. According to these acquaintances, their car got stuck in a ditch on Sam's Point Road and Joe got frustrated so he left to walk back to Ellenville. Kelly and Wade left about 20 minutes later, walking the same way that Joe did. John left 10 minutes after that and walked the short distance back to his home in Cragsmoor. Marks, Diaz and LaForge say that the last time they saw Joe, he was walking away from them when the car got stuck in the ditch.

Examiner: Who reported him missing?

Gina: On January 17th when Joe failed to show up for his shift at the Napanoch Auction Barn in Napanoch, his boss, Vic, called his mother, Lee Ann. Lee Ann checked around for Joe and when it became apparent that Joe was nowhere to be found, she contacted Ellenville Police. The police and rescue workers soon scoured the Cragsmoor area looking for Joe.

Examiner: What was found during the search?

Gina: Unfortunately, as the rescue workers made it up to the mountain a major snow storm was moving into the area. Over the next several days, over two feet of snow fell which hampered the search. Rescue workers worked through the storm for six days searching for any trace of Joe, but nothing was ever found. They called off the search after six days saying that if Joe was up there on the mountain, there was no way he could possibly survive.

Examiner: Was that the last time anyone searched for Joe?

Gina: Search teams did go back up on the mountain in the spring after the snow melted and the ground thawed, but no trace of Joe was ever found.

Examiner: What have you heard might have happened to Joe?

Gina: Rumors have flown all around the Village of Ellenville over the years, pointing toward Kelly, Wade and JP. There have been several people who have come forward with information that contradicts the story told by these three; however, the information is "3rd party" information. For example, one woman came forward stating that she witnessed a conversation that Kelly Diaz had with her ex-husband where Kelly stated that the story about the car getting stuck in the ditch was just a cover story. We have even had a couple of Joe's family members and a friend of his father's come forward with information that contradicts the story told by these three acquaintances.

Examiner: Do you think there was anything different that could have been done in his case?

Gina: Joe's case was never added to the National Center for Missing and Exploited Children until October 2010, 23 years AFTER he was missing. His case was never added to the NYS Police list and website of missing persons in NYS until April 22, 2011, 24 years AFTER he went missing.

Examiner: Has anyone been a suspect or given a lie detector test?

Gina: The investigator in charge of the investigation at the moment tells us that the 3 individuals who were the last ones with Joe just before he disappeared all took polygraph tests in 1987, however we've received other information from someone else connected with the case who told us that one of the individuals, Wade Marks, the one whose father mysteriously packed him up and shipped him to Tennessee to live with his mother within weeks of Joe's disappearance, REFUSED to take a polygraph test in 1987.

Examiner: Is there anything that you would like people to know about Joe's case?

Gina: The investigator in charge of the case will NOT allow Joe's aunt, Beth Churchill (who is the family member contact for Joe as both of his parent passed away in 2007 and 2008) to see the police report taken in 1987 or anything at all about the case. We've been told by several missing persons advocates that Joe's family has the right to ask for the original police report, however, they have been denied access.We just sent in a FOIL request to the NYS Police records officer in Albany NY for these records and await their reply. In a taped interview with NBC news in February (a link is listed below) a NYS Police spokesperson states that the 3 individuals who were the last persons with Joe just before he mysteriously disappeared without a trace are not now and were never considered suspects or persons of interest. This we just do not understand! Another thing to consider is that the father of one of the three (John LaForge's father) was an influential town judge at the time of Joe's disappearance. The current Ellenville Chief of Police, Phil Mattricion, claims that Joe's case has continually been looked at and investigated several times a year over the years. Yet nothing seems to have been done. The three who were with Joe that night were never reinterviewed, the police didn't reinterview Joe's family over the years and we are not really sure if any additional search efforts were ever made. No one ever contacted Crime Stoppers, they never contacted the media in an attempt to bring any new leads in Joe's case.

Examiner: There has been renewed interest in Joe's case. Can you tell me about it?

Gina: In November, 2010, a Facebook support group was created called "In Support of Joe Helt". Since November 2010, the group has grown to over 500 members and the group held a candlelight vigil for Joe on the 24th anniversary of his disappearance, January 16, 2011. A media campaign was launched in an effort to help Joe's case. Since then several newspaper stories have been written about Joe in papers such as the Times Herald Record, the Shawangunk Journal and the Poughkeepsie Journal. TV news stations also picked up the story. Hudson Valley Cable News Channel YNN ran three news stories on Joe's case, and NBC news in NYC also ran a segment. His case was even showcased in an episode of Nancy Grace's America's Missing: 50 People in 50 Days.

Examiner: Any last words?

Gina: It is our hope that we can bring peace to Joe, to his family, to his friends and to the community of Ellenville/Cragsmoor as a whole.

If you know something or have any information about Joe Helt, please contact me here or at the Examiner (you can remain anonymous) or the NYS Police at (845) 626-2853.

http://www.missingpersonsofamerica.com/201...york-since.html

monkalup - September 4, 2012 05:57 PM (GMT)
a post from a crime forum called crimeseekers.net

by forjoe

My friend, Joseph Helt, was just 17 years old when he went missing on 1/16/1987. He was a Junior at Ellenville High School in Ellenville, NY. Joe out late at night partying with friends at a local party spot, the remnants of the old Mount Cathalia Ski Lodge in Cragsmoor NY (which is just outside of Ellenville NY). Joe left to take a ride with three acquaintances, Kelly Diaz, Wade Marks and John "JP" Laforge. According to these acquaintances, their car got stuck in a ditch on Sam's Point Road and Joe got frustrated so he left to walk back to Ellenville. Kelly and Wade left about 20 minutes later, walking the same way that Joe did. John left 10 minutes after that and walked the short distance back to his home in Cragsmoor. All three made it home safely but Joe was never seen again.

On January 17th when Joe failed to show up for his shift at the Napanoch Auction Barn in Napanoch, his boss, Vic, called his mother, Lee Ann. Lee Ann checked around for Joe and when it became apparent that Joe was nowhere to be found, she contacted Ellenville Police. The police and rescue workers soon scoured the Cragsmoor area looking for Joe.

Unfortunately, as the rescue workers made it up to the mountain a major snow storm was moving into the area. Over the next several days, over 2 feet of snow fell which hampered the search. Rescue workers worked through the storm for 6 days searching for any trace of Joe but nothing was ever found. They called off the search after 6 days saying that if Joe was up there on the mountain, there was no way he could possibly survive. Search teams did go back up on the mountain in the spring after the snow melted and the ground thawed, but no trace of Joe was ever found.

Marks, Diaz and LaForge say that the last time they saw Joe he was walking away from them when the car got stuck in the ditch. That was 24 years ago and Joe's case has gone cold. Rumors have flown all around the Village of Ellenville over the years pointing toward the three. No real evidence has ever been found. There have been several people who have come forward with information that contradicts the story told by these three, however, nothing concrete has ever been found.

Joe's case is currently being looked into by NYS Investigator Thomas Fortuna. In October 2010 Joe's case was registered with the National Center for Missing and Exploited Children.

In November 2010 another classmate and I were discussing the idea of starting a multi-year reunion and we remembered Joe. We wondered what ever happened with his case and I started an internet search. I discovered that he was recently entered into the National Center for Missing and Exploited Children and it looked like renewed interest had been sparked in his case! We decided to start a facebook support group for Joe and it really took off. (In Support of Joe Helt:http://www.facebook.com/#!/home.php?...217368108&ap=1) We scrapped the reunion idea as the facebook group not only required a lot of attention, but I felt that raising awareness for Joe's case was a more important to me right now.

Over the years many rumors and thoughts have run through the town. People have pointed toward the three acquaintances who were with him that night, and we have even had several people come forward with information which contradicts the story told by the three acquaintances, including one individual who heard Kelly Diaz tell her ex-husband that the story about the car getting stuck in the ditch was just a cover story. We have even had a couple of Joe's family members come forward with information that contradicts the story told by these three acquaintances. However, even though these three have acted extremely guilty for 24 years, we have yet to find concrete proof of their guilt. Joe's case has remained a cold case for 24 years and nothing has been done for him. Unfortunately Joe's mother and father both passed away from cancer in 2007 and 2008, just 9 months apart from each other. They passed away never knowing what happened to their son. The burden of carrying on for Joe has fallen to his siblings and most of all his aunt, Beth Churchill (Joe's mother was her sister).

Joe's missing person's flyers are continually ripped down from the local grocery store in town no matter how many we put up and when we posted posters all along the street by the high school for the candlelight vigil, they were ALL taken down within 24 hours. Well, all of them except the two that were posted on a pole that could be seen by the security camera from the high school that is. We've had things like this happening non-stop.

On January 16, 2011, the 24th anniversary of Joe's disappearance, we held a candlelight vigil in Joe's honor. Approximately 50-60 people attended. I have attached video of the event for your review.

We've been working hard to gain media attention, and there has been some local area media attention lately on Joe's disappearance. This is a list of recent tv news and newspaper stories covering Joe's case, as well as newspaper stories from 1987 when Joe first went missing:

Nancy Grace‘s “America’s Missing: 50 people in 50 days”:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xVJnVvCNzME

NBC (NYC) news segment:
http://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/local...116025154.html

NBC (NYC) VIDEO segment:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J0hD7baDT3s

Blog Talk Radio BRING THEM HOME NOW:
http://forjoehelt.webs.com/apps/vide...log-talk-radio

Blog Talk Radio CUBANARAMA:http://forjoehelt.webs.com/apps/vide...log-talk-radio

YNN Hudson Valley News Channel 6 coverage (4 stories):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=snfCBxLrY38
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=geiEk6xZ6BQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xf0QTHzk1ic
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_1Lgj0xABmE


Shawangunk Journal article:
http://www.shawangunkjournal.com/201...s/1101130.html
http://www.ellenvillejournal.com/201...s/1101203.html


Times Herald Record articles:
http://www.recordonline.com/apps/pbc...WS%2F101150324
http://www.recordonline.com/apps/pbc...WS%2F101170325

Times Herald Record photos:
http://www.recordonline.com/apps/pbc...6009997&Ref=PH

Poughkeepsie Journal article:
http://www.poughkeepsiejournal.com/a...sing-classmate

Blue Stone Press article:
http://www.facebook.com/album.php?id...293&aid=111979

1987 Times Herald Record articles:
http://www.facebook.com/album.php?id...293&aid=111570
http://crimeseekers.net/forums/showthread....ng-for-24-years




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