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aristomenis - April 12, 2005 02:30 PM (GMT)
Psifiste an kai de nomizw na metrisei i gnwmi sas!

dreamer - April 14, 2005 12:16 PM (GMT)
eite anoiksoun ta magazia sti lesxi eite oxi den tha allaksei kati gia emas..Ta magazia 8a ta noikiazoun an den kano lathos e?
Opote den einai kaki idea na exei to panepistimio esoda..Tora to pi8anotero einai to megalutero meros autwn twn esodon na to tseponei kanas eksipnos tipakos alla to ipoloipo tha ikanopoiei kapoies anages tou panepistimiou wste na mporoun na dikaiologoun ka ta posa pou lambanoun apo tous mellontes idiokthtes twn magaziwn(lew egw tora..)

phFan - April 14, 2005 02:02 PM (GMT)
xwris na exw kataliksei an eimai yper i kata, se ti allo tha mporoysan na aksiopoithon aytoi oi xwroi? kamia idea?
An pantws ginoun magazia, isws einai gia kalo..prwta tha eksypiretoun tous foitites kai deyteron tha pigainoyn kapoia xrimata stis anagkes toy panepistimioy...kati den einai kai ayto?

billy - April 15, 2005 11:02 PM (GMT)
Paidia, ola ta pragmata stin zwi den mporoun na aksiologithoun me vasi to posa lefta mas apoferoun...To thema den einai praktiko, alla kathara ideologiko. Kai eksigoumai:
Yparxoun 2 apopseis: i mia pou vlepei tin paideia ws koinwniki paroxi, diladi san kati sto opoio tha prepei na exoun dikaiwma prosvasis OLOI oi anthrwpoi, aneksartita apo opoiadipote alli parametro (kati antistoixo me tin ygeia klp -an kai stis meres mas tipota den einai etsi opws tha eprepe). H alli apopsi vlepei tin paideia san ypiresia, diladi san kati pou prosferei kapoios se kapoion enanti antalagmatos (opws einai to kourema, to ftiaksimo tou kipou klp klp).

An doume loipon tin paideia san koinwniki anagki-paroxi, tote, gia na thewrithei oti i paroxi ayti einai eleytheri gia olous kai aneksartiti apo oikonomika symferonta, tha prepei na einai makria apo otidipote sxetika me xrima kai oikonomika paredwse. Ki ayto dioti poly apla, an kapoios exei oikonomiko symferon apo tin paideia, tote den tha ton endiaferei to ti parexei, alla to ti pairnei. Etsi loipon -me poly liga logia- i paideia emporevmatopoieitai.

H alli apopsi, pou vlepei tin paideia ws ypiresia, ypostirizei oti "afou kati dinw, kati tha prepei kai na parw". Aytin akrivws tin apopsi ypostirizoun thewries oi opoies einai yper tis plirwmis twn vivliwn, H' akoma kai didaktrwn. Otan to kratos skeftetai me myalo empora sou leei "den mporei egw na exw dwsei tosa fragka na ftiaksw to tade panepistimio, kai o allos na spoudazei ekei dwrean! Pws tha vgalw ta eksoda kai to kerdos mou??!!"

To zytima loipon edw den einai an eksypiretountai oi foitites kai an lamvanei esoda to panepistimio..To zitima einai giati to panepistimio anagkazetai na psaksei gia esoda apo allou, plin tou kratous (mipws, lew mipws, ayta pou tou dinei to kratos einai poly liga gia na tou ftasoun?? Kai ti kanoume emeis gi'ayto?). Kai epipleon, apo tin stigmi pou ypotithetai oti oi prytanikes arxes einai pneymatika fwtismena atoma, me pliri synaisthisi tis epistimonikis kai koinwnikis-pnevmatikis "apostolis" enos panepistimiou ( :blink: ), pws katadexontai na to syndiasoun me tetoies "sygkeneies" me to xrima??

Rwtw apla: an ta magazia den ftiaxnontan stin lexi, alla akrivws eksw apo ton fraxti tou panepistimiou, den tha eksypiretountan pali oi foitites?

To thema einai aplo:H' to (kathe) panepistimio einai idyma eksypiretisis koinwnikis anagkis (morfwsi en prokeimenw) opote kai oudemia sxesi exei me epixeiriseis kai oikonomika symferonta, H' to panepistimio einai aplws ena magazi pou poulaei gnwsi se osous exoun na tin agorasoun...Dialegete kai pairnete........

aristomenis - April 17, 2005 08:29 PM (GMT)
Kala ola auta pou les Billy alla prepei na diafwnisw katheta stis apopseis sou! Eisai polu apolutos kai sto telos kataligeis na paranoeis orismena pragmata. H emporeumatopoiisi tou panepistimiou de ginetai an anoiksoun dio magazia stin PANEPISTIMIOUPOLI kai to tonizo auto gia na sou dikso oti to panepistimio-(os idea kai paroxeas morfosis kai paideias) den einai apla enas xwros, alla kati parapanw. Etsi loipon auta ta magazia de tha feroun tin katalisei tou thesmou autou oute tha ton emporeumatopoiisoun kathos to mono koino pou exoun einai o XOROS!!!
Pera apo auto an se enoxloun ta magazia tis lesxis giati de s'enoxloun ta kulikeia?
Kai auta magazia einai pou briskontai ki'ollas dipla se kathe sxoli kai oxi apla se ena meros SUGENTRWSIS twn foititwn.Enw ta exoun idiwtes, pou bgazoun kerdos kai PLIRWNOUN ENOIKIO STO PANEPISTIMIO kai malista arketa megalo!
Ase pou thelo para poli na matho pws sto kalo ta magazia tis lesxis tha stamatisoun tin paideia na einai "koinwniki paroxi, diladi san kati sto opoio tha prepei na exoun dikaiwma prosvasis OLOI oi anthrwpoi, aneksartita apo opoiadipote alli parametro",opws polu eustoxa eipes!!!!
Telos mas les pws de se peiraze katholou ta magazia na anoigane akrivws ekso apo to fraxti. Giati? Arxika de tha eksipuretoountan katholou oi foitites kathws tha eprepe na kanoun olokliri diadromi kai deuteron kai pio simantiko: ekei pou kolas einai ta 100 kai ta 200 metra? pali to koino ton politwn opou tha stoxeuoun auta ta katastimata de tha einai oi foitites? ase pou tha exoume ta idia akribws apotelesmata me prin, enw de tha kerdisei tipota kai to panepistimio, diladi emeis, kathws to panepistimio imaste emeis oi foitites kai oxi ta ktiria oi pritaneis kai oi katharistries! Ola auta ta xrimata pou tha sugentrothoun apo ta katastimata auta tha mporoun na diatethoun se erga gia to panepistimio se perissoteres paroxes gia tous foitites akoma isws kai gia ti metafora twn foititwn!
En katakleidi tha ithela -kata ti diki mou panta gnwmi-na min perneis ola ta zitimata toso sobara les kai tha erthei to telos to kosmou, tha katalisoun kathe thesmo kai aksia,enw tha allaksoun tin koinwnia, opws tin kseroume!! Etsi loipon 2 magazia sto xwro tis lesxis de tha feroun tin emporeumatopoiisi tou thesmou tou panepistimiou!

auta ithela na pw pou apoteloun, opws tonizoume olloi, apla tis dikes mou apopseis, xwris omws na exw kamia kaki prothesi!! kalinixta!

ShOrTmAn - April 18, 2005 02:02 AM (GMT)
Vasika na poume +fwnw me twn Billy,to thema einai ideologiko.Analoga pws vlepei kaneis to pan/mio.Ws ena dimosio idryma poy prosferei dwrean paideia h mia epixeirisi poy prepei na bgalei kerdos?
H erwthsh pou exw na sas kanw einai an exoume anagh ta magazia.Exoyme ws pan/mio thn anagh tou enoikiou h exoume thn anagh tis uphresies poy tha prosferoun?An ftiaxtikan gia na mas feroun euro sto pan/mio wste na mporei na kalypsei tis anagkes toy(aytapataste).An progmatika pisteuete oti xreiazomaste euros tote agaphtoi sunaderfoi prepei na ta apaithsoume apo ton armodio forea o opoios einai h kevernhsh(apo thn stigmi pou legetai dhmosio to pan/mio h pleon armodia h ekastote kyvernisi).Oson afora gia thn exipiretish twn foititwn pou menoun stis esties h kai twn ypoloipwn(Einai ena apo ta epixeishmata pou xrisimopoieisan oi parataxeis pou psifian yper tvn magaziwn):Dierwtame ti exyphrethsh tha prosferei ena komothrio h ena pararthma kinhths thlefonias(vgike vrwma oti kati tetoia magazia tha anoixoun elpizw na vgw psegtis) stous foitites.As mou epitrepsete na kanw mia upothesh ergasias: an ena apo auta ta magaziaeina bibliopoleio ti tha ginei?Mipws h epixirish tha leitourgei sta plaisia monopwleiou(me ta arnitika pou o kathenas mporei na fantastei)? Oloi exoume katalavei oti ta Ioannina trefontai kai sunturountai kata megalo pososto apo tous fitites.Afou mas armegoun pou mas armegoun sth poli giati na mas armegoun kai sto xwro tou pan/miou?

Auta pros to parwn an mou erthei kati sto miolo tha epanelthw.

phFan - April 18, 2005 11:04 AM (GMT)
Paidia tha bgw ligo ektos thematos, alla bazete kai kana keno kai kamia paragrafo pou k pou...na min ta ftynoume na diabasoume ti lete ;)

al_neri7 - April 19, 2005 02:54 PM (GMT)
ta magazia meta to pasxa tha einai anoixta opote min ekplagite opws egine me to eisitirio pou girisame kai itan 10%epanw i timi tou

opws kala leei o shortman to thema einai ideologiko
den ta xreiazomesta ta magazia kai den theloume ton idioti mesa sto panepistimio

epeidi file aristomeni o idiotis exei mpei sta kilikia kai sti lesxi gia ti prepei na mpei akoma pio batheia?
ola file einai mia arxi,i opoia distixws eidi exei ginei to thema einai pws tha to stamatisoume ayto kai an mporoume na to stamatisoume?

phFan - April 20, 2005 10:47 AM (GMT)
Genika, protimate na exete ena panepistimio "kleisto" apo ton eksw kosmo, san ena lykeio p.x.? Apo tin alli, mipws an anoiksoun ta magazia tha exoume problimata me themata asylou klp.? mpros gkremos kai pisw rema, eseis ti lete?

(alla re paidia stin teliki, an anoiksoun axrista magazia, grigora den tha kleisoun?<_<)

billy - April 22, 2005 06:54 PM (GMT)
Axxxxxxxxxx, vre aristomeni, afou eisai eksypno paidi, giati kaneis pws den katalavaineis?? :rolleyes:

Den m'aresei na epanalamvanomai, alla me anagkazeis na to kanw..Ksanalew loipon:to thema einai kathara ideologiko. Fysika kai den tha erthei i synteleia tou kosmou me 2-3-5-123-247547458789 magazia stin lesxi. Apo tin stigmi omws pou th aanoiksoun, to ideologiko kommati tha exei idi dextei ena pligma. Den eimai egw apolytos..H ideologia, ws ennoia, einai apolyti. Den mporeis na ypostirizeis kapoia pragmata "sto peripou"..Otan les oti "eimai yper tou tade", ennoeis oti ton ypostirizeis, paei kai teleiwse. Stin ideologia loipon, den xwrane stroggylopoiiseis ("a, aytos mou vgike 98.53+/- 12% aristeros..Na ton afisw??!!! :blink: ). Apaks loipon kai exeis mia ideologia (tin opoiadipote), an thes na eisai pistos apenanti tis kai na tin kaneis stasi zwis, ofeileis na tin efarmozeis se kathe ptyxi tis (kathimerinis) zwis sou, APAREKLITA.

Proswpika, ypostirizw oti ena panepistimio den tha prepei na exei kamia sxesi me opoiadipote morfi tis ennoias "epeixirimatikotita". Kai nai, fysika kai me enoxloun pou ta kylikeia kai i lesxi diaxeirizontai apo idiwtes. MAKARI na ta diaxeirizotan to dimosio - diladi apeytheias to panepistimio: kai emeis tha kerdizame (xamiloteres times) kai to panepistimio.

To ksanalew loipon kai to tonizw: H' SE ODIGAEI MIA IDEOLOGIA, THN OPOIA EFARMOZEIS PANTOU KAI PANTA, H' APLA SE NOIZEI NA KONOMISEIS, KAI PRATTEIS PROS AYTIN THN KATEYTHINSI




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