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Walter J. Veith Islamic - Catholic Connection
Seventh-Day-Adventist Walter J. Veith presents his thesis regarding close ties between Rome, the Vatican, the Catholic faith and Islam. Both having their roots in Babylonian paganism. The false-front of the rapidly growing Christian faith was simply grafted on by Constantine in early A.D. (Ano Domini).
We welcome author of Vatican Assassins, Eric Jon Phelps, back to the program to discuss the Vatican Creation of Islam. We move though History and discuss the connections between the Vatican, the Jesuits and terrorism, the Nazis, Al- Qaida, the Muslim Brotherhood, 9/11 Aftermath, the USA PATRIOT act, Viet D. Dinh, Georgetown University and much more. Topics Discussed: Alberto Rivera, Augustinians , Jihad, The Crusades, Council of Nicaea, Prophet Muhammad, Paganism, Lutheran Church, Muslim Brotherhood, Nazis and Al Qaeda, Grand Orient Lodge of Cairo, Palestine Liberation Organization, Mohammad Amin al-Husayni, Collège de Clermont, Robespierre, King George III, Anglican Communion, the Anglo American Empire, Oil, Dubai the new Babylon, Blackwater, Joseph E. Schmitz, Eric Prince, George Tenet, Council on Foreign Relations, Edward Egan and much more.
story came from Cardinal Bea, a Freemason and alleged Zionist agent. G.D. Cearley's evidence challenges
the story's entire historical basis. Still, it has been circulated in the alternative media, where it
is being used to fan the flames of hatred and bigotry against Islam -- playing right into the hands of
the NWO's agenda to destroy and discredit Islam while keeping us divided, ignorant, and impotent
against them.
Islam is most assruredly divided against Bible-believing peoples. Its doctrines are nearly identical as those of Rome. When Islam lifts its bloody sword, Rome always benefits. This is assuredly not a coincidence, but a design.
The following quotes are from Fritz Springmeier's Be Wise As Serpents (1991): "The key
Commission (group) of Vatican II was the Secretariat of Christian Unity headed by Cardinal Bea.
Cardinal Bea was a Grand Master of the Freemasons, and was also a Jesuit and a Jew. His original name
was Behar.
This is tacitly not true. Jesuit Augustin Bea was a German Bavarian Roman Catholic. At the time of his rise to power, prior to 1946, no Jew was allowed into the Jesuit Order. Bea was most assuredly one of the Black Pope's foremost Masonic Labor Zionists in league with the pope "Court Jews" running Rome's "Revived Latin Kingom of Jerusalem." He was also one of the foremost Jesuits determining policies of Vatican II. But a racial Jew, never!
During the Vatican II meetings he flew back and forth from the Vatican to New York (thought
to be those of the One-World-Power) to brief these others on what was happening.
No doubt Bea's connections linking Rome with the New York CFR are undeniable. But the CFR is ruled by the Archbishop of New York, not the New York Jews. Remember it was Thomas F. Ryan, a Knight of Columbus and past powerhouse on Wall Street, who brought his lieutenant, Freemason Bernard Baruch, to fame. Baruch, like Charlie Silver, were pope-serving Jews of New York City working for Cardinal Spellman.
The Second Vatican
Council was announced in Jan. 1959, opened in Oct. 1962, and concluded in Dec. 1965." "According to Dr.
Alberto R. Rivera, who claims he was a Jesuit Priest, he was shocked when he learned in the early
1960's that his Jesuit Master General, head of all Jesuits, was a Freemason and had close ties to the
Illuminati in London.34 One reason it was so shocking was that the Jesuit priests were being taught to
regard the Freemasons as enemies. (Dr. Rivera is a controversial person, a letter written to him by
this Author asking for clarification or confirmation of his story was never answered.)" "59.
His wife Nury Rivera can answer those questions as well as his son, Albert Rivera, Jr. Remember, there was a great conspiracy to discredit Alberto, namely that he never was a Jesuit priest.
Several
sources this Author has read indicate this, the only reference located when writing this was the
controversial book The Godfathers, Chick Publications, p.21. The Godfathers purports to tell Alberto
Rivera's story. My letter of inquiry about the details of The Godfathers sent to Rivera went
unanswered, although I got on his mailing list. A bulletin by Roy and Rae Livesey Nov. 1991
Kidderminster, Worcs., Eng. provides evidence Rivera is a fraud. This being the case, it remains for
individuals to decide what details Rivera has said are true, and which have been fabricated."
Roy Livesly is a liar and a fraud. I debated him many years ago via email and he over time became the loser. He has always stated that he is going to write an expose of Rivera, but it has never appeared.
In conclusion, Islam is indeed a creation of Rome based not upon the witness of Rivera, but upon the Bible itself. For Rome is the Mother of Harlots and Abminations of the Earth. If she is a mother of whores, then there are other false religions which she birthed. One of them is Islam. Islam is a Whore according to Revelation 17:5-6. Islam denies that Jesus Christ is the Son of God. Islam denies his Virgin Birth as well as his bodily resurrection. Islam is a bloody murderer as I list in my new CD of the Con Con 2008.
My prayer for Moslems is the same for Roman Catholics. They need to be saved and thus forgiven of their sins through believing the gospel of Christ. Apart from the true Lord Jesus Christ of the Reformation Bible, both Moslems and Roman Catholics will continue to erect political tyrannies over their own people who in turn will never produce a Middle Class with historic Protestant liberties.
Sincerely in Christ,
Brother Eric
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Dubai's Dynamic Tower Receives More Than 600 Reservation Requests
Following the opening of the reservations list for the world's first Dynamic Tower in Dubai on June 24, more than 600 requests have been submitted for residential apartments, Rotating Tower Dubai Development has announced.
This revolutionary building, designed by the Florentine architect David Fisher, was first announced at a press conference held in New York City less than three weeks ago.
Over 140 reservation requests have arrived from the United States, followed by England (94) and Australia (57), as well as Italy, China, New Zealand, and other countries throughout the world.
More than 50 reservations were submitted specifically for the Dynamic Tower's luxury villas, with prices starting at 20 million Euros (US $30 million). New requests continue to be submitted for all types of apartments.
In Dubai, the Dynamic Tower will have 80 floors and be 420 meters (1,380 feet ) tall. Luxury apartments will range in size from 124 square meters (1,330 square feet), to Villas of 1,200 square meters (12,900 square feet).
The first 20 floors will be an office building, floors 21 to 35 a six-star hotel, floors 36 through 70 will be residential apartments, and the top 10 floors will be full-floor luxury villas. Each villa will offer 360-degree views, as well as have its own swimming pool facing a continuously changing view of the sea and the city, a sauna, home theatre, and a parking space at the entrance.
David Fisher, the architect behind the Dynamic Tower, said: "The Dynamic Tower is introducing a fourth dimension to architecture. Using independently rotating floors, the building's shape evolves with time, changing direction from sunrise to sunset to reflect modern dynamic living and creating a unique, evolving architectural landmark."
The Dynamic Tower is the first skyscraper to be constructed entirely in a factory from prefabricated parts, using the Fisher Method. This will reduce construction time by over 30 %.
The Fisher Method will require only 600 people in the assembly factory and 80 technicians on-site, instead of the usual 2,000 workers expected for a job of the same size. Each floor of the building can be completed in seven days, and construction is scheduled to be completed in 2010.
This is the first expression of Dynamic Architecture and is completely green, self-powered by wind. It will generate electricity for itself as well as other buildings nearby, making it the first self-powered skyscraper.
It achieves this with wind turbines fitted between each rotating floor and photovoltaic cells placed on the roof of each rotating floor. Energy will also be saved during construction.
The Dubai Dynamic Tower is being developed by Rotating Tower Dubai Development Ltd, headed by the Dynamic Group
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I know the kind of hatred Muslims have to the Protestant whilst putting up with the Catholics. -Craig
Muslims storm Protestant school in Jakarta, injuring 265 students
Over the week-end Muslim fanatics target a Christian school in the capital’s east side. Police evacuate the institute to protect students. Hundreds of police agents are now guarding it to prevent further violence.
Jakarta (AsiaNews) – Police evacuated the Christian Theological Arastamar Institute (STT SETIA) which is located in an eastern district of the Indonesian capital after it suffered damages during clashes between Christians and Muslims over the week-end. At least 1,500 students were moved to nearby police headquarters and a local Christian-based political party. The situation remains critical and further violence between opposite factions cannot be ruled out. “The school foundation urged us to intervene to protect people,” said East Jakarta District Police Chief Senior Superintendent. “For this reason we moved everyone out.”
Last night hundreds of residents from the village of Kampung Pulo had taken up arms threatening to storm the school after being instigated by an imam at a local mosque who claimed that a bunch of Christian gangsters were coming to “protect” the school after it was attacked on Saturday by a Muslim mob, causing damage to the building and hurting hundreds.
In an attempt to solve the problem East Jakarta District Chief Murdani held a close door meeting with the warring parties to discuss the issue. At the same time though, he said that police would conduct a thorough investigation and check if the school’s legal status was in order and that it respected all building regulations. In case of violations he would issue orders to demolish the unlawful structures.
At present hundreds of agents are guarding the school and have orders to stop any act of violence and disarm people.
The Arastamar High School for Theology and Biblical Studies, locally known as STT SETIA, was established by Rev Mathew Mangentang in 1987.
The SST SETIA has more than 29 branches school across the country. In Jakarta alone it has thousands of students, including 265 who were injured in latest clashes.
Tensions between Christians and Muslims flared up on Saturday following rumours that a SETIA student had stolen a motorcycle that belonged to a Muslim from a neighbouring village.
Senny Manafe, a spokesperson for the school, rejected the accusation, claiming instead that the attacks were triggered by a trivial incident. In an attempt to chase a mouse in the street, a student threw a slipper against a house owned by a local Muslim. Outraged by the deed, the latter kicked and punched the student as people gathered drawn by the rumour that a Christian student had tried to steal the Muslim’s motorbike.
“Many students suffered various injuries to the head. Others were burnt by Molotov cocktails,” Manafe said.
The violence and charges against SETIA are the work of Risman Hadi, chairman of Muslim Brotherhood Forum of Kampung Pulo Village, who in the past opposed the opening and continued existence of the Christian institute.
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Dubai plans $200bn canal to bypass Strait of Hormuz
Dubai is studying plans to build a $200 billion (£114 billion) mega-canal that would allow oil tankers to bypass the Strait of Hormuz. The Gulf emirate is understood to be considering the idea as a means of reducing Iran’s influence on the flow of oil from the region.
About 17 million barrels of oil a day are transported through the strait, equivalent to 40 per cent of the world’s traded oil.
However, the proposed canal project would be fraught with difficulty. Oil tankers weighing more than 300,000 tonnes would need a route through the mountainous region between Dubai and its Indian Ocean coast.
“Many studies on this have been presented, but nothing is solid,” a senior official of the Dubai Government told Dow Jones yesterday.
Iran has hinted repeatedly that, if threatened, it would target commercial vessels in the strait. The navigable tanker lanes are only six miles wide and any disruption could severely limit oil exports from the Gulf.
Engineers are understood to have presented the plans for a 112-mile canal to the Dubai Government. It would link the Gulf coast with the port of Fujairah on the Indian Ocean coast, crossing the Hajar Mountains with a network of enormous locks. The massive cost and complexity of the project is thought to have stalled a decision on the canal, but it could be a popular initiative with other Gulf states.
Iran’s location on the northern coast of the Strait of Hormuz effectively allows it to control the 90 per cent of Gulf oil that is exported by sea. Countries such as Saudi Arabia, Kuwait and Iraq are eager to find an alternative and could be persuaded to contribute to the project.
Mustafa Alani, of the Dubai-based think-tank Gulf Research Center, said: “Iran has clearly stipulated its intention to close the Strait of Hormuz in case of a military conflict in the region.”
Abu Dhabi is building a pipeline to Fujairah so its oil can avoid Hormuz. It will carry about 1.5 million barrels a day, but will not have the capacity to transport oil from Saudi Arabia or other producers.
The above title became a source of controversy when I used it for a talk given at a recent prophecy conference. What I found curious about the commotion was that it came from Catholics (and some evangelicals) who had yet to hear my presentation. Furthermore, the title reflects the hope and prayers of the Pontifical Council for Interreligious Dialogue. Rome has been tilling this "common ground" with Islam for decades, as evidenced by the 1994 Vatican publication, Recognize the Spiritual Bonds Which Unite Us: 16 Years of Christian-Muslim Dialogue. Why, therefore, would anyone be upset by my simply repeating what the Roman Catholic Church very much desires?
Actually, the real controversy stems from confusion created by the Church of Rome herself. In her zeal to be the spiritual voice of the world's religions, she talks out of both sides of her ecumenical mouth. Regarding her relationship to Islam, not only has she made to those of the Muslim faith some theological overtures which contradict Christian orthodoxy, but even worse, there are ties between the two religions which go a lot deeper than most people realize. Let's first consider some commonalities between the two faiths.
Starting with the number of adherents, Catholicism and Islam each exceed one billion, nearly all of whom enter their respective faiths as infants. More than 16 million babies are baptized into the Roman Catholic Church each year. It's a family thing. My sisters and I were baptized as Catholics because our parents were Catholics, and they and their siblings were baptized into the Church because their parents were Catholics. That's the primary way the faith is propagated.
Practically speaking, although baptism is not part of Islam, all children born into a Muslim family are Muslims. Their official "confirmation" follows as soon as they are able to confess the shahada ("There is no God but Allah, and Muhammad is his messenger"). This baby-oriented process for increasing their ranks has been a motivating factor in the Vatican/Saudi-sponsored lobby against UN endeavors to introduce contraception and other methods of population control, especially in third-world countries.
Islam is the fastest growing religion in the world today; Catholicism is the largest religious body among those professing to be Christian. If the number of followers was a good measure for selecting a religion, then Islam and Catholicism would definitely be the way to go. However, the Bible has no such yardstick. Rather, Jesus said, "[W]ide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat. Because strait is the gate and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it" (Mt 7:13,14).
Most people are aware of the veneration and even worship of Mary found among Roman Catholics, but not many know that much the same deference exists among Muslims. A chapter in the Qur'an is named after Mary ("Surah Maryam"). From the outskirts of Cairo to Bombay to Medjugorje in Bosnia-Herzegovina, hundreds of thousands of the Islamic faith have congregated wherever processions carry her statues and where her apparitions are said to have appeared. She is esteemed above the most revered women of the Muslim faith, including Muhammad's two favorite wives, Khadija and Aisha, and his daughter Fatima. The hadith teaches that Muhammad selected Mary as his first wife upon entrance into Paradise (for more about Mary and Islam see "Mary Who?" in TBC 10/00). One of the most popular Catholic apparitions of Mary is referred to as Our Lady of Fatima.
Catholic and Islamic prayers have many similarities. For the Muslim, praying to Allah five times a day is altogether an act of obedience, and the prayers are always repetitive. As one former Muslim puts it, "It's hardly intimate communication with Allah;...it's done more to escape the punishment due to those who neglect prayer." Most prayers prayed by Catholics are also rote and repetitive, saying the rosary being the best example. Repeating 16 "Our Father's" and 153 "Hail Mary's" is far from personal communication. Furthermore, when a Catholic goes to confession the priest assigns rosaries as severe punishment, or penance, for one's sins.
Prayer beads were a part of Islamic devotion to Allah long before an apparition of the Blessed Lady taught St. Dominic to pray the rosary beads in the thirteenth century. Prayer beads, by the way, are a stock item in ancient and modern paganism. On an ironic note, Catholic Church historians credit the prayers of members of the Confraternity of the Rosary for a major naval victory over the Turks, which "saved Europe from the Mohammedan peril."
Catholics and Muslims regard pilgrimages as a means of obtaining favor from God. The hadj, one of the five pillars of Islam, is a required (one-time) journey to Mecca. For Catholics, pilgrimages historically have been acts of religious purification, often induced by the promise of indulgences. Multi-millions of Catholics travel yearly to hundreds of shrines (nearly all dedicated to Mary) located throughout the world. The Crusades were indulgence-stimulated attempts to regain Jerusalem from the infidel Muslims in order to re-establish Catholic pilgrimages. Incidentally, the Church of Rome offered the crusaders full pardon from purgatory should they die trying to liberate the Holy Land. Similarly, Islam offers rewards in and assurance of Paradise to those who die in religious battles (jihad), including suicide bombings.
Roman Catholicism recognizes Allah as the God of the Bible. In 1985, Pope John Paul II declared to an enraptured audience of thousands of Muslim youths, "Christians and Muslims, we have many things in common as believers and as human beings....We believe in the same God, the one and only God, the living God...."
But how is that possible?
Historically, Allah was a pagan idol, supreme among many idols worshiped by Muhammad's Quraish tribe long before he was born. Will Durant in his classic, The Story of Civilization, writes,
Within the Ka'aba, in pre-Moslem days, were several idols representing gods. One was called Allah; three others were Allah's daughters, al-Uzza, al-Lat, and al-Manat. We may judge the antiquity of this Arab pantheon from the mention of Al-il-Lat (Al-Lat) by Herodotus [fifth century b.c. Greek historian] as a major Arabian deity. The Quraish paved the way for monotheism by worshiping Allah as chief god....
Archaeological evidence uncovered in Arabia is overwhelming in demonstrating that the dominant pre-Islamic religion was the worship of the moon-god, Allah. Muhammad simply eliminated the other 300-some deities, including Allah's daughters, making Allah supreme while retaining many of the pagan rituals and symbols associated with him. For example, the crescent moon was the symbol of the moon-god from the time of the Sumerians and the Babylonians through the time of Christ and right up until Muhammad's arrival. It's hardly a coincidence that Ramadan, the Muslim time of fasting, begins and ends at the time of the crescent moon. Nearly all of the moon-god rituals and other idolatrous practices, including kissing the Black Stone, praying toward Mecca, running around the temple and between the two hills of Safa and Marwa, were pre-Islamic rituals.
Catholicism's zeal to relate to Islam makes one wonder how honest it is about its own perspective on God, based on the "Sacred Scripture." God is referred to as Yahweh or Jehovah about 9,000 times in the Bible. Never is He thus referred to in the Qur'an. He reveals himself in the Scriptures as "The God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob/Israel." He is the Father of the Jews, "the God of Israel." In the Qur'an, Allah never refers to himself that way. God calls the Jews His "chosen people." He gave them the land of Israel as a heritage "forever": "And they shall dwell in the land that I have given unto Jacob my servant, wherein your fathers have dwelt; and they shall dwell therein, even they, and their children, and their children's children for ever" (Ezk 37:25). God's covenant is with Isaac (Gn 17: 19-21), while Muslims believe Allah's covenant is with Ishmael.
Allah has a completely different attitude toward the Jews than does the God of the Bible. Allah commands his followers to "Take not the Jews...for friends" (Sura 5:51). While the Jews are referred to in the Qur'an as "the people of the book" (i.e., the Bible), if they refuse to convert to Islam they must pay a tribute tax to their overlords and become subservient to them: "Fight against such of those who have been given the Scripture as believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, and forbid not that which Allah hath forbidden by his messenger, and follow not the religion of truth, until they pay the tribute readily, being brought low" (Sura 9:29). According to the hadith, which most Muslims regard to be nearly as authoritative as the Qur'an, Muhammad is quoted as saying, "The last hour will not come before the Muslims fight the Jews, and the Muslims kill them." Again, the hadith says that, related to the Day of Judgment, Muslims will fight and kill Jews, who will hide behind trees that say, "Oh Muslim, Oh servant of Allah, here is a Jew hiding behind me. Come here and kill him." Catholicism has its own grievous and well-documented history of slaughtering the Jews.
Further comparisons between Jehovah and Allah demonstrate clearly that they cannot be one and the same. Jehovah has a Son: "And we have seen and do testify that the Father sent the Son to be the Saviour of the world" (1 Jn 4:14). Allah has no son: "And say: Praise be to Allah, Who hath not taken unto Himself a son, and Who hath no partner in the Sovereignty..." (Sura 17:111); "Allah hath not chosen any son, nor is there any God along with him" (Sura 23:91). Whereas God the Father declared from heaven concerning Jesus, "This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased" (Mt 3:17), Allah of the Qur'an condemns such a belief: "...the Christians say: Messiah is the son of Allah. That is a saying from their mouths. They imitate the saying of the disbelievers of old. Allah's Curse be on them, how they are deluded away from the truth!" (Sura 9:30 - The Holy Qur'an www.orst.edu/groups/msa/index.html).
While there are both clear and critical differences between the biblical God and Allah, nevertheless, the Roman Catholic Church accepts them as one and the same God. The following quote is from Vatican II:
The Church has also a high regard for the Muslims. They worship God, who is one, living and subsistent, merciful and almighty, the Creator of heaven and earth, who has also spoken to men. They strive to submit themselves without reserve to the hidden decrees of God, just as Abraham submitted himself to God's plan, to whose faith Muslims eagerly link their own.
Although not acknowledging him as God, they venerate Jesus as a prophet, his virgin Mother they also honor, and even at times devoutly evoke. Further, they await the day of judgment and the reward of God following the resurrection of the dead. For this reason they highly esteem an upright life and worship God, especially by way of prayer, alms-deeds and fasting (Nostra Aetate, Vatican II).
Consider carefully the above quote (taken from what the Roman Catholic Church claims is an infallible council) and you will realize what truly binds Catholicism and Islam together: They both have a Jesus who cannot save their souls. The Qur'an teaches that Jesus did not die on the cross: "And because of [the Jews] saying, We slew the Messiah Jesus son of Mary, Allah's messengerThey slew him not nor crucified, but it appeared so unto them; and lo! those who disagree concerning it are in doubt thereof; they have no knowledge thereof save pursuit of a conjecture; they slew him not for certain" (Sura 4:157). Vatican II may give Muslims credit for "venerating" Jesus, but in fact, it's a bogus Jesus. Sadly, Catholicism also has a false Christ. It teaches that His death on the cross was not sufficient for our salvation. Not only must His sacrifice (which, according to the Scriptures, was offered only once to take away our sins completely [Heb 9:28]) be "re-presented" as a daily sacrifice for sins on altars around the world, but Catholics must expiate their own sins through sufferings here on earth and in purgatory.
Finally, Vatican II spells out clearly what Islam and Catholicism regard as their hope for salvation: "...they highly esteem an upright life and worship God, especially by way of prayer, alms-deeds and fasting." This is works salvation. In Islam, a person is accountable for every thought, word, and deed. His or her life is to be lived according to what is pleasing to Allah as found in the Qur'an and the hadith. In addition, there is shari'a, which is the body of rules that attempts to cover the totality of Islamic religious, political, social and domestic life. Breaking such laws involves various forms of temporal punishment. At the Last Judgment Allah will determine one's eternal destiny as He places one's good and evil works on the divine scale: "Then those whose scales are heavy [with good deeds], they are the successful. And those whose scales are light are those who lose their souls, in hell abiding" (Sura 23:102,103). The hadith vividly describes the tortures of hell.
A friend of mine, James McCarthy, produced a video titled Catholicism: Crisis of Faith in which he interviews about a dozen people leaving Mass at St. Patrick's Cathedral in New York. He simply asks them on what basis they expect to get to heaven. Only one made any reference to Jesus. The overwhelming response was that they felt they were pretty good people, and were fairly confident that their good deeds outweighed their bad ones. Although the Catholic Church states that it is only by God's grace that one can enter heaven, it becomes very clear that what is meant is that grace is required to enable one to do the works which qualify one for heaven. According to the Catechism of the Catholic Church, they "obtain the joy of heaven, as God's eternal reward for the good works accomplished with the grace of Christ" (par 1821) and they "can merit for [them]selves and for others all the graces needed to attain eternal life" (par 2027).
Pope John Paul II addressed a Catholic community in Turkey with these words: "I wonder if it is now urgent, precisely today when Christians and Muslims have entered a new period of history, to recognize and develop the spiritual bonds that unite us." No! What is "urgent" is that Catholics and Muslims be set free from the spiritual bondage of attempting to qualify for heaven by their good deeds. Pray that their hearts would be open to receive the gift of eternal life (Rom 6:23). TBC
He was confronting me over my comments to a book he wrote refuting Alberto Rivera's info tying the Papacy to Islam. Why would someone who professes to be a baptist (Clinton claimed to be a Baptist also) take it upon himself to TRY and vindicate both the Papacy and Islam all the while attempting to DEBUNK Alberto Rivera?
Right there should have any serious Vatican researcher VERY suspicious. When I began reading excerpts of his book I found a lot of these types of wordings. "it was known to be" or "it is well known that..." as if this verifies his info.
While reading these types of things i couldn't help to think that this mans book is TRASH. I don't consider Alberto infallible. i am open to anything and if i saw enough evidence to show Alberto is a fraud i would never promote his work and i would completely disassociate myself from him.
But this has not happened. over and over again i see his words verified. Can alberto misspeak? can he get a fact wrong? yes he can. I lived on a USS NAVY vessel and knew like the back of my hand it's exact dimensions and the exact manning. if I tried to tell you the exact dimensions today i may get some of it wrong. Does that mean i wasn't on the ship? NO! Does it mean I wasn't in the NAVY? NO!
So, recently i began to look again at this man who is publicly calling me out and here's what i found right away.
I just began looking a little bit into the Gary Cearly who confronted me on his blog in regards to Alberto Rivera's testimony. Just to show you a taste of what this man is all about, he interviews Dr. Walid Mustafa, a scholar of islam and similiar things, the scholar is a professor in Israel at the University of Bethlehem.
"Bethlehem University of the Holy Land is a Catholic Christian co-educational institution of higher learning founded in 1973..."
As you can see, this man Gary Cearley actually tries to use a professor from a CATHOLIC University to debunk Alberto Rivera!
You can begin reading that and see what this Professor is about and what his sources are. THIS WAS THE FIRST THING I FOUND IN RESEARCHING THIS MAN! what will I find next? I dont know if I need to continue.
Additionally, when I began reading this interview I saw that the professor has a slanted version of history. First of all the Jews who left Egypt with Moses didnt study Judaism as this Professor suggests. they followed only the law of Moses. "Judaism" is a much newer religion which I believe started around and/or after the time of Christ. i would have to look at that to get the exact details but thats why i said what i said about Cearly. when i started looking at things he was saying way back when i saw that he was washed up.
Take care, Thomas
Not to mention the other links i have included in this thread along with Dr. Veith's incredible lecture entitled "The Islamic connection"
I would say that this Cearley who has challenged me has found himself buried under a mountain of evidence tying Islam to the papacy that he would NEVER be able to dig himself out of.
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I know an Islamic family who send their daughter to Catholic school. I guess the Shiite Muslims broke off from the Sunnis and they are the ones who are targeted in this papal inquisition. Phelps spoke on this once and it made perfect sense.
this way it shows how islam can be a friend of the vatican at the same time as being the enemy. its because their are two different main sects in Islam.
can anyone clarify this or does anyone know where that bit from Phelps is?
I believe there was even a map shown where the Shiites were and everywhere they were, that was the area of that country that was targeted by the Bush admin under control of the Jesuit Order.
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Here's what I found so far...
Subject: Bhutto was a Shia Date: 12/31/2007 6:28:30 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time From: eric@vaticanassassins.org Reply To: To: eric@vaticanassassins.org
The war on Shia Islam continues.
Musharaff is a Sunni as is Pakistan.
Brother Eric
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Dear Ashish,
I shall reply below. (Eric's comments are in bold face)
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From: To: eric@vaticanassassins.org Sent: Saturday, January 05, 2008 11:40 PM Subject: MIDDLE EAST
Sir,
I have been reading your recent post regarding the alliance of Jesuits, Wahhabis and Masonic Sunnis to eliminate Shite Muslims.
Excellent!
How does Sunni Iraq fall in this scenario. Why would USA establishment under the influence of Jesuits would be war with Sunni Iraq.
To begin with, Iraq is not majority Sunni but majority Shiite. As you may also know, the Shia have been being eliminated since the days of the erection of CIA/Jesuit controlled, Freemasonic, Sunni-Baathist Saddam Hussein. With the exit of Sunni Hussein and the execution of his double, US forces remained in Iraq to eliminate the majority population, it being Shia. Babylon is to be rebulit on the Euphrates River in a Shia-free Iraq, for which reason US contractors have erected 14 military bases and an American Embassy the size of the Vatican---all of which will be given to the new Sunni Islamic state after this Crusade. Dubai is the prelude to the building of Babylon.
The death toll is now over one million men, women and children most of whom are Shia. Contributing to this war of annihilation are highly paid US mercenaries, most of whom are ex-Special Forces, Green Beret, Delta Teams and Navy Seals. The majority of these "private contractors" are with Blackwater, the largest mercenary army in the world. And Blackwater is controlled by the Knights of Malta, including Joseph Schmitz.
The pope's CFR-controlled press here in the American Empire make it appear that this crusade is against both Shia and Sunni in Iraq. Nothing could be further from the truth. Sunni Falujah was the arena of a huge battle for US forces due to the killing of four Blackwater mercs who were deliberately sent into Falujah to be killed by their Blackwater superiors. This resluted in more Congressional money for Blackwater and the battle of Falujah---an open battle with Sunnis.
This Jesuit-controlled US Army policy has led to a Civil War in Iraq, the Order using the US forces, private mercs and Sunni leaders to daily murder the Shia. All calls by Shia leaders to unite with the Sunni leaders against the foreign invaders will never succeed. The Sunni leaders in Iraq, in addition to the Sunni leaders in Pakistan, Qatar, UAE, Bahrain, Egypt, Jordan, Turkey, Saudi Arabia and Jordan are all working in concert with the Jesuit/CFR-controlled US-Bush government to annihilate the Shia of Iraq and later the Shia of Iran. Iran is now surrounded by Sunni enemies controlled by the US. Iran will be invaded after the US has experienced a CIA/FBI/NSA controlled nuclear detonation to be blamed on Iran. According to ex-General and CFR member Wesley Clark, the Pentagon planned to invade Iran, which plan was made known to him ten days after 911. That interview in which he made this confession is on my website.
The reason the Order is using its American military to destroy the Shia is twofold. First, the Caliph of the Shia is considered to be divine, a spiritual and temporal/political ruler and thus a rival to the pope of Rome. On the other hand, the Sunni Caliph is considered to be only a temporal/political ruler and thus not a spiritual rival to the pope of Rome. The only man on earth who may be considered as divine or "god on earth" is to be the pope of Rome. It is for this reason the Order used its American military industrial complex to overthrow the "divine" Emperor of Japan in 1945 and the "divine" Bhuddist Dalai Lama of Tibet in 1959. Now the Order is overthrowing any possible Caliph who may arrive among the Shia also claiming to be divine.
The other reason for the annihilation of the Shia is that the Shia are serious enemies of the pope's revived "Latin Kingdom of Jerusalem," which we call Israel. All Sunni leadership is Masonic and thus under the control of the Black Pope. Thus, no Sunni leader will seriously attempt to destroy Rome's Kingdom of Jerusalem---nor engage in a peace treaty lest he be assassinated. The open but deceptive policy of Rome's Sunni alliance of leaders is to oppose Israel; the secret policy is to uphold Rome's Kingdom of Jerusalem ruled by the Black Pope's Masonic Jewish Labor Zionists---those murderers of their own Jewish people. The Jesuit-controlled, Masonic Sunni/Wahhabi/US/ secret alliance will continue to be manifested through the Order's Masonic, Sunni/Wahhabi Islamic International Terrorist Network controlled by the Black Pope's International Intelligence Community overseen by both the American CIA and the British SIS. Oil bonanza Wahhabi Saudi Arabia was built into the present financial colossus by the Jesuits controlling both the CFR-ruled US and the RIIA-rulled UK over the last eighty years.
Shia Benazir Bhutto was a threat to this US/Sunni alliance (between the US and Pakistan) as she declared on David Frost's BBC interview that Bin Laden had been murdered. Without the false enemy of Bin Laden, the US Crusade to include Sunni Musharrif would come to a halt. And of course, the Bin Laden and Bush families had been business partners in the Carlyle Group for over twenty years before 911. Therefore, the CIA/ISI murdered Bhutto, as she was delivered into the hands of the assassins by CFR controlled, Black Roman Catholic Sec. of State Condo Rice. Bhutto was to deliver a secret document into the hands of JFK assassin and Pennsylvania US Senator, 33 Degree Jewish Freemason Arlen Specter, whose master is the Archbishop of New York, Edward Cardinal Egan.
Muslims should take advantage of the global financial crisis to build an economic system compatible with Islamic principles, influential Sunni cleric Sheikh Yusuf al-Qaradawi said on Sunday.
"The collapse of the capitalist system based on usury and paper and not on goods traded on the market is proof that it is in crisis and shows that Islamic economic philosophy is holding up," said the Egyptian-born, Qatar-based cleric.
"The Western system has collapsed and we have a complete economic philosophy as well as spiritual strength," he said at Sunday's opening of a conference on Jerusalem.
"All riches are ours... the Islamic nation has all or nearly all the oil and we have an economic philosophy that no one else has," Qaradawi said.
He urged Muslims to "profit from the crisis to bring about the triumph of the (Islamic) nation, which holds the spiritual and material resources for victory."
The sixth conference on Jerusalem is being attended by around 300 people representing political parties as well as Muslim and Christian NGOs, from various countries.
It is staged by Al-Quds (Jerusalem) International Institution, which is dedicated to the conservation of the holy city and its sacred places.
Participants include Khaled Meshaal, exiled head of the Palestinian Islamist movement Hamas, and Ali Akbar Velayati, a top adviser to Iranian spiritual leader Ali Khamenei.
The three-day conference will look at ways of protecting Jerusalem and its holy sites, which participants believe are threatened by Israel.
SECRET talks are under way to bring Islamic sharia law courts to Scotland, The Scotsman has learned.
Qamar Bhatti, director of the Muslim Arbitration Tribunal (MAT), which runs the courts, admitted discussions were taking place with lawyers and Muslim community groups in Scotland.
The group is believed to be aiming to set up courts in Edinburgh and Glasgow.
In September it emerged that five sharia courts, ruling on civil cases from divorce to domestic violence and financial disputes, had been operating for more than a year in London, Birmingham, Bradford, Manchester and at MAT headquarters in Nuneaton, Warwickshire.
The courts have legal powers, with their decisions enforceable through the county courts or high courts.
However, concerns have been raised about the establishment of a "dual legal system".
Women's domestic violence groups have also voiced fears, saying traditional sharia law arbitration is "dangerous and inappropriate" in cases of abuse.
Last night Bill Aitken, the Scottish Tory justice spokesman, said: "Informal private arrangements between individual members of the Muslim community are one thing, but in criminal matters Scottish courts must have total jurisdiction. "Matters of divorce and domestic violence require to be determined by conventional courts. We cannot have private arrangements when human rights are an issue."
The move to establish sharia courts has sharply divided opinion among Scotland's Muslims.
Some defend the right of the Muslim community to rule on its own affairs. But others say MAT has not consulted them and there is no demand for sharia courts.
Aamer Anwar, a Glasgow-based civil rights lawyer, said: "Those using sharia law are fully entitled to religious freedom as long as it doesn't conflict with criminal law. Because it happens to be Islamic , people jump to the conclusion it is barbaric.
"It is down to the community to decide for itself."
Commenting on criticisms over domestic violence, he said: "The woman has full entitlement to go before any court or to the police. With sharia law, when domestic violence is raised it always runs into a fanfare of hysteria."
Noman Tahir, of the Scottish-Islamic Foundation, said there was no groundswell of support for sharia courts in Scotland.
"Currently, Scottish Muslims resolve civil matters through the courts or voluntary third-party arbitration with Islamic scholars and imams," he said. "This has worked well for many years and we are not aware of any unhappiness with these arrangements or calls for change."
A spokeswoman for Shakti Women's Aid, which supports black minority ethnic women, said it was not in favour of the courts in Scotland.
"Cases of domestic abuse and divorce should be heard within the Scottish judicial system," she said. "We fear that many female victims of domestic abuse may be pressurised by their families and partners to accept the rulings of the sharia court as final and prevent them from seeking legal assistance from the Scottish court system, which might force them to continue living within abusive relationships."
John Scott, a human rights lawyer, said: "There is a place for sharia law, but we need to be careful those aspects unfavourable to women are not allowed to dominate.
"I have less concern about fears over a dual legal system than aspects which are inconsistent in practice with equality issues. But such courts cannot be set up unsupervised and they would need to be monitored."
In February the Archbishop of Canterbury caused a furore when he commented that it "seems unavoidable" that parts of Islamic sharia law would be adopted in the UK if social cohesion was to be maintained.
Panels of scholars with power to settle disputes
What is sharia?
Sharia law is Islam's legal system, derived from the Koran and from fatwas – the rulings of Islamic scholars. It covers every aspect of a Muslim's life and day-to-day conduct.
What do sharia courts deal with?
A range of issues including marriage, divorce, family and financial disputes.
Where and when do they meet?
They have been set up in mosques, Islamic centres and converted premises such as shops. Most meet weekly. Advice on some issues can also be obtained online.
How are decisions made?
Around three to six scholars and imams collectively make decisions.
Islamic jurists issue guidance and rulings. Guidance which is considered a formal legal ruling is called a fatwa.
How much does it cost a complainant?
Costs range from £150-£250
Is there a right of appeal?
Yes – you can appeal to another sharia court or apply for a special hearing.
Why do some women have concerns about these courts?
Some Muslim women say they are concerned about the interpretation of disputes because of the patriarchal nature of their culture.
Have sharia courts been established in other western countries?
Attempts to set up sharia courts in Canada in 2005 were abandoned after protests.
A 106-year-old American nun living in a convent in Rome could well be the oldest person to vote in the 2008 US Presidential election.
Sister Cecilia has lived in the convent in Rome for 50 years
Sister Cecilia Gaudette, who last voted for President Eisenhower in 1952, has registered to vote and says she will vote for Democrat Barack Obama.
Although hard of hearing, she keeps herself informed by reading newspapers and watching TV at the convent.
"I'm encouraged by Senator Obama," she says.
"I've never met him, but he seems to be a good man with a good private life. That's the first thing. Then he must be able to govern," she adds.
Sitting in her modest office in the convent where she has lived for the past 50 years, the diminutive nun appears uninterested in the row inside the American Catholic church over Senator Obama's support for pro-choice policies on abortion.
Asked about her hopes for the US under an Obama presidency, she says: "Peace abroad. I don't worry about the Iraq war because I can't do anything about it. Lord knows how it will end."
"It is very complicated," she said. "Those Eastern people are not like we are."
But despite taking part in the 4 November election, Sister Cecilia does not intend to return to the US.
"I have no plans for the future. I am too old to go back to the US. Life has changed too much."
But she still watches "very important events" on TV. The election comes under this category.
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