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Title: 205/55R16 vs 205/50R16 Tyre Upgrade Query


azmanan - August 18, 2010 07:21 AM (GMT)
I'm a newbie here, about to get my Sylphy soon. I need some clarification on the correct tyre size to use when swapping to 16" rims.

By convention, upgrading 195/65R15 the closest size to maintain the overall diameter shall be 205/55R16. Doing so shall mean less compromise on comfort and fuel consumption as well.

However, a tyre shop in Puchong suggests that I should be upgrading to 205/50R16 because the 55 series tyre may scrape the tyre wall. The reason he gave was the original 15" rims is only 5.5" width and the 16" is wider. I saw the validity of his argument because even the Sylphy Impul is shod only with 205/45R17 when by convention it should be 215/45R17.

I wonder if anybody has ever used 205/55R16 without any issues? FYI I had the same issue when I drove Mazda 323 Protege before. The stock 185/65R14 tyre were upgraded to 205/45R16 upon purchase. The handling was excellent but the ride suffers. I changed to 205/50R16 upon replacement but the tyre scrapes the tyre well whenever going thru a bump despite the improved ride. Upon searching in Japanese and USA websites I found that the correct tyre size was 195/50R16 that solves everything. The introduction of Satria Neo also helped to bring the uncommon-sized tyre price down reasonably.

I'm also in a small dilemma if I should be considering 17" at all. I found that in the market there are more choices for 15" and 17" rims and tyres to cater for the aftermarket demands but less so for 16". Which means the difference of price between same make and model to be small between 16" and 17". Even for the rims you may be surprised that sometimes for the same make and model, the 16" price is more expensive!

But as I said, that is a small dilemma because I just want to improve the handling a little bit without visual drama. My dilemma is really 205/55R16 vs 205/50R16 for the Sylphy. I'm getting my new car Monday and a shop is already offering a trade-in price of RM1000 provided I bring the car in the same day. Which means I only pay for new rim prices.

Help me please fellow Sylphians!

syl05-2010 - August 18, 2010 08:34 AM (GMT)
:welcome: to NSC bro..... shakehands

spkster - August 18, 2010 09:47 AM (GMT)
:welcome: bro.

I am currently using 205/55R16 without any issue of tyre scraping. The only thing that may cause it to scrape is the offset.

In Malaysia, you should not have any issue finding a replacement tyre for this size as it's the standard size for Perdana, Waja, Corolla and many more.

Deciding on 16" or 17" would be tough. All depends on what you're looking for. The difference in tyre height (ie. from rim to ground) is only 0.5". Some of the things you may want to consider:

Get 16" if:
- You're a high mileage driver (ie. 30/40K or more a year) and concerned about running cost. Each 17" tyre may cost RM100 more than the 16".
- Frequently going over bad roads with high risk of denting your rims.

Get 17" if:
- Looking for cooler looks.
- Drives mainly on highways or main trunk roads

ok


dannyon95 - August 18, 2010 03:50 PM (GMT)
i already test for 205/55 16" ,215/45 17",215/50 17",225/45/17" and 225/45/18"...without any issue of tyre scraping ofr all above dimension.finally i choice 225/45 17" b'cos nice view in our car, tyre view not so big and small.
225 is suitable for our car size.. but speed less 5km/h count by GPS speed.

Jerryng - August 19, 2010 12:36 AM (GMT)
i am using 17' too, well you will definitely compromise on the comfort as the tyre is thinner and bit noisy.

16 and 17 wont make much different to me. you can use 225/50/17 for more comfort.

i am planning to chane t 225/50/17 later as i am using 225/45/17.


6229 - August 19, 2010 02:07 AM (GMT)
Hi Azmanan, i would agree with u that 205/16/55 profile is definitely much comfortable as compares to 215 or 225/45 profiles, and 55 profile would be an ideal size of comfort for most malaysia roads' condition especially our Sylphy is designed towards luxury, simplicity and comfort ! Let us see what the status of ur car once u had it changed the rubbers! ;)

spkster - August 19, 2010 04:48 AM (GMT)
My preferred tire size for Sylphy is 205/50R17. It only increases the tire width by 10mm. However, had to abandon the idea due to limited tires in that size bawling

With my driving today, may need to change tires every 12 to 15 months. :giveup:

frederick8726 - August 19, 2010 10:57 AM (GMT)
:welcome: bro..
how considering of changing 17", i letting go.
changing 19" soon..
16' not fierce bro.. riding horse

6229 - August 19, 2010 01:25 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (frederick8726 @ Aug 19 2010, 06:57 PM)
:welcome: bro..
how considering of changing 17", i letting go.
changing 19" soon..
16' not fierce bro.. riding horse

hi Frederick, might sharing with us what coilover r u using now cos since u were mentioned u r going for 19" then ur coilover must be superb adore biggrin

Jerryng - August 19, 2010 01:28 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (6229 @ Aug 19 2010, 09:25 PM)
QUOTE (frederick8726 @ Aug 19 2010, 06:57 PM)
:welcome:  bro..
how considering of changing 17", i letting go.
changing 19" soon..
16' not fierce bro..    riding horse

hi Frederick, might sharing with us what coilover r u using now cos since u were mentioned u r going for 19" then ur coilover must be superb adore biggrin

got related meh?

but 19', wah, don pray pray........sure chun betul

6229 - August 19, 2010 01:38 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Jerryng @ Aug 19 2010, 09:28 PM)
QUOTE (6229 @ Aug 19 2010, 09:25 PM)
QUOTE (frederick8726 @ Aug 19 2010, 06:57 PM)
:welcome:  bro..
how considering of changing 17", i letting go.
changing 19" soon..
16' not fierce bro..    riding horse

hi Frederick, might sharing with us what coilover r u using now cos since u were mentioned u r going for 19" then ur coilover must be superb adore biggrin

got related meh?

but 19', wah, don pray pray........sure chun betul

definitely related ..... the bigger the wheels the more bumpy the ride is ....

frederick8726 - August 19, 2010 02:10 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (6229 @ Aug 19 2010, 09:38 PM)
QUOTE (Jerryng @ Aug 19 2010, 09:28 PM)
QUOTE (6229 @ Aug 19 2010, 09:25 PM)
QUOTE (frederick8726 @ Aug 19 2010, 06:57 PM)
:welcome:  bro..
how considering of changing 17", i letting go.
changing 19" soon..
16' not fierce bro..    riding horse

hi Frederick, might sharing with us what coilover r u using now cos since u were mentioned u r going for 19" then ur coilover must be superb adore biggrin

got related meh?

but 19', wah, don pray pray........sure chun betul

definitely related ..... the bigger the wheels the more bumpy the ride is ....

ya bro 6229 is right the bigger ur rim the unstableness ur ride will be,
i gt a lot of thing to change, 1st must change r hub fro the current 4 hole to 5 hole 1st then must find one fully adjustable suspension system for a stable handling characteristics such as ride height & spring preload.
Tanabe pro 5 will be definitely works for r wheels.
Currently i'm using tanabe lowering spring, <<<--- this brand is top:

jf7247 - August 19, 2010 03:26 PM (GMT)
bro, 19" is a wow!!!
then mod wide body bo???

azmanan - August 20, 2010 02:41 AM (GMT)
Thanks all for advice. Glad to hear that I should not experience any tyre scrubbing issue using 205/55R16. The ideal tyre for me should be 50 series, but 225/50R16 is too expensive I might as well use 215/50R17. 205/50R16 would be even punier and leave even more gaps even if lower profile.

I would love to have 17", but the fact is this is a company car. I don't want to fight with the accountants when they see me claiming for 17" tyre which they would simply say much more expensive than 16" tyres. I can do so after I have a history to show that 17" tyres are not that much more expensive than 16". That will be for the upgrade.... B)

And because this is a company car (cum family car) yes I'm a high miler because I can easily do 60k a year, that's the other reason opting for 16".

That tyre shop just want to racun me to take more expensive 17" rims only, that's why they say 205/55R16 have scrubbing issue. Plus they don't keep much 16" stocks. But I found another tyre shop in Bangi already with honest pricing and impressive stock list for all sizes.

Only will get my car next Monday earliest, supposed today but needed director's signature which costed me an extra day with paperwork. I can't wait!

spkster - August 20, 2010 03:19 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (azmanan @ Aug 20 2010, 10:41 AM)
Thanks all for advice. Glad to hear that I should not experience any tyre scrubbing issue using 205/55R16. The ideal tyre for me should be 50 series, but 225/50R16 is too expensive I might as well use 215/50R17. 205/50R16 would be even punier and leave even more gaps even if lower profile.

I would love to have 17", but the fact is this is a company car. I don't want to fight with the accountants when they see me claiming for 17" tyre which they would simply say much more expensive than 16" tyres. I can do so after I have a history to show that 17" tyres are not that much more expensive than 16". That will be for the upgrade.... B)

And because this is a company car (cum family car) yes I'm a high miler because I can easily do 60k a year, that's the other reason opting for 16".

That tyre shop just want to racun me to take more expensive 17" rims only, that's why they say 205/55R16 have scrubbing issue. Plus they don't keep much 16" stocks. But I found another tyre shop in Bangi already with honest pricing and impressive stock list for all sizes.

Only will get my car next Monday earliest, supposed today but needed director's signature which costed me an extra day with paperwork. I can't wait!

Bro, you can still go ahead with 17" but your first set of tires get something cheaper like Nexen or Roadstone or Nankang :crazy:

That way you won't claim so much. Then in six/eight months time, it should be time to change a new set of tires top: That time, get something betterlah. ok

jf7247 - August 20, 2010 07:48 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (spkster @ Aug 20 2010, 11:19 AM)
QUOTE (azmanan @ Aug 20 2010, 10:41 AM)
Thanks all for advice. Glad to hear that I should not experience any tyre scrubbing issue using 205/55R16. The ideal tyre for me should be 50 series, but 225/50R16 is too expensive I might as well use 215/50R17. 205/50R16 would be even punier and leave even more gaps even if lower profile.

I would love to have 17", but the fact is this is a company car. I don't want to fight with the accountants when they see me claiming for 17" tyre which they would simply say much more expensive than 16" tyres. I can do so after I have a history to show that 17" tyres are not that much more expensive than 16". That will be for the upgrade....  B)

And because this is a company car (cum family car) yes I'm a high miler because I can easily do 60k a year, that's the other reason opting for 16".

That tyre shop just want to racun me to take more expensive 17" rims only, that's why they say 205/55R16 have scrubbing issue. Plus they don't keep much 16" stocks. But I found another tyre shop in Bangi already with honest pricing and impressive stock list for all sizes.

Only will get my car next Monday earliest, supposed today but needed director's signature which costed me an extra day with paperwork. I can't wait!

Bro, you can still go ahead with 17" but your first set of tires get something cheaper like Nexen or Roadstone or Nankang :crazy:

That way you won't claim so much. Then in six/eight months time, it should be time to change a new set of tires top: That time, get something betterlah. ok

bro spkster u change tyres every 6/8months ah....
normally i change every 1.5~2 yrs leh

kennyjay - August 20, 2010 08:50 AM (GMT)
so guys......so if i gonna change tires....the below 2 will be ideal tires to choose....
betul kah driver

205/55 R16 or 215/50R17 riding horse

6229 - August 20, 2010 12:21 PM (GMT)
Had my 17" wheels changed back to 16" today for more comfort daily ride! :cussing:

spkster - August 20, 2010 12:49 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (jf7247 @ Aug 20 2010, 03:48 PM)
bro spkster u change tyres every 6/8months ah....
normally i change every 1.5~2 yrs leh

Not me lah paiseh

Bro azmanan said that he travels 60,000km a year. If use soft tires, 40,000km liao oledi laugh

If don't rotate, I think by time hit 30,000km in 6 months sure botak :giveup:

If I have to change tires every 6 or 8 months, I think I'll stick to the original tire size bawling

azmanan - August 20, 2010 11:21 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (spkster @ Aug 20 2010, 11:19 AM)

Bro, you can still go ahead with 17" but your first set of tires get something cheaper like Nexen or Roadstone or Nankang  :crazy:

That way you won't claim so much.  Then in six/eight months time, it should be time to change a new set of tires top:  That time, get something betterlah. ok

Well bro spkster, that's not how the logic goes :blink:

You know that I'm a high miler so I'll be changing tyres like every 6 - 8 months. No matter what brand of tyre I claim for the first time and no matter at what price, the accountant shall report that I'm milking the company's money for my style when he sees the 17" tyre size in the claim. You know why? Because he only got a lousy previous gen Honda City from the company :crazy:

What I'll do is for the next tyre change I'll get a slightly expensive 205/55R16, from the company's panel (because they're always more expensive), and then on the subsequent change to upgrade to 215/50R17 somewhere in Batu Pahat which is cheaper :drunk:

The only downside is I have to spend my own money for the rim upgrade, but no worries because the Batu Pahat shops always take in good price for the trade-in top:

The upside is, in two tyre changes time, my ride will be refreshed with a new look no 1

dong101 - August 21, 2010 03:00 AM (GMT)
Total agreed on your point on the accountant in company work, assumption is more accurate than fact! hmmmm

Well, glad you find way to go around it. biggrin

frederick8726 - August 21, 2010 02:05 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (jf7247 @ Aug 19 2010, 11:26 PM)
bro, 19" is a wow!!!
then mod wide body bo???

now still thinking my hub oli, must change to 5 hole, bodykit very fast siap wan hehehx bro..
upz..

azmanan - August 25, 2010 03:48 AM (GMT)
Got my car today and straight away went to change the rims. On the short trip noticed some unstableness with the high profile tyres immediately. Well the trip was longer than previous test drives sessions lah. driver

Bought a set of VRace 10 spoke wheel (alternate grey and chrome spokes). It is an imitation of Kranze rim, sorry don't have picture to upload yet. I saw it before on a Latio and it looked good. It looked better on that car with a lower profile (I think 205/45R16).

Not too bad though, was going for WedsSport SA67 (or was it SA70?) but I know it's an old design, besides ppl will know it's an imitation wheel straight away. I can see that if I had gone with 205/50R16 it would look too small, and yes, there's no scrapping problem.

I can see now that the best would be a set of 215/50R17, I could have paid only a little extra to go for that but you guys know why already. That's in 2 tyre changes time! :D

syl05-2010 - August 25, 2010 06:13 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (azmanan @ Aug 25 2010, 11:48 AM)
Got my car today and straight away went to change the rims. On the short trip noticed some unstableness with the high profile tyres immediately. Well the trip was longer than previous test drives sessions lah. driver

Bought a set of VRace 10 spoke wheel (alternate grey and chrome spokes). It is an imitation of Kranze rim, sorry don't have picture to upload yet. I saw it before on a Latio and it looked good. It looked better on that car with a lower profile (I think 205/45R16).

Not too bad though, was going for WedsSport SA67 (or was it SA70?) but I know it's an old design, besides ppl will know it's an imitation wheel straight away. I can see that if I had gone with 205/50R16 it would look too small, and yes, there's no scrapping problem.

I can see now that the best would be a set of 215/50R17, I could have paid only a little extra to go for that but you guys know why already. That's in 2 tyre changes time! :D

do update with picture soon ya... top:

aceedburn - August 26, 2010 04:56 AM (GMT)
Upgraded my rims and tyres in april 2010 and am using 205/55/16 Michelin Primacy LC tyres. Enjoying it. Ride comfort, stability and cornering especially during rain is great. Highly recommend this size and tyres for anyone not willing to compromise on comfort, like me!

jf7247 - August 26, 2010 10:17 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (aceedburn @ Aug 26 2010, 12:56 PM)
Upgraded my rims and tyres in april 2010 and am using 205/55/16 Michelin Primacy LC tyres. Enjoying it. Ride comfort, stability and cornering especially during rain is great. Highly recommend this size and tyres for anyone not willing to compromise on comfort, like me!

all tai ko
normally 17" taiwan rim less than 1 year how much can get if trade in huh???
the rim good condition no scratch.... top:

frederick8726 - August 26, 2010 11:02 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (jf7247 @ Aug 26 2010, 06:17 PM)
QUOTE (aceedburn @ Aug 26 2010, 12:56 PM)
Upgraded my rims and tyres in april 2010 and am using 205/55/16 Michelin Primacy LC tyres. Enjoying it. Ride comfort, stability and cornering especially during rain is great. Highly recommend this size and tyres for anyone not willing to compromise on comfort, like me!

all tai ko
normally 17" taiwan rim less than 1 year how much can get if trade in huh???
the rim good condition no scratch.... top:

depending the tyre bro, usually there c type 1st as is a taiwan made rims.. hehehc bro..

jf7247 - August 26, 2010 05:25 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (frederick8726 @ Aug 26 2010, 07:02 PM)
QUOTE (jf7247 @ Aug 26 2010, 06:17 PM)
QUOTE (aceedburn @ Aug 26 2010, 12:56 PM)
Upgraded my rims and tyres in april 2010 and am using 205/55/16 Michelin Primacy LC tyres. Enjoying it. Ride comfort, stability and cornering especially during rain is great. Highly recommend this size and tyres for anyone not willing to compromise on comfort, like me!

all tai ko
normally 17" taiwan rim less than 1 year how much can get if trade in huh???
the rim good condition no scratch.... top:

depending the tyre bro, usually there c type 1st as is a taiwan made rims.. hehehc bro..

no tyres bro oni the rim paiseh




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