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Minase - June 11, 2006 08:35 PM (GMT)
Like just about everyone who uses this forum I have an interest in both anime and manga, though my interest in the latter does not go beyond Battle Royale, in the former I have a wide interest ranging from Dragonball Z to Fist Of The North Star and Cowboy Bebop to Spirited Away.

However in anime there seems a distinct division, between really good stories, bland, repetitive ones improved with a healthy portion of raw action, and then...tentacle rape. To me these are the three main forms, and being seventeen, most other anime fans I talk to expect my fascination to lie with Urotsokidoji and Bible Black or other such...well, rubbish.

If I want to jerk off I watch porn, and if I want to see a movie I do not watch porn, but so many anime fans seem to combine the two and think they are discovering something superior. Urotsukidoji, as an example, is okay, but suggesting something like that could ever compare to Hayao Miyazaki movies is a joke.

I wonder who agrees with me? Who else would rather see a childrens movie with a fantastic plot and huge aesthetic value where the artwork is concerned, as produced by studio Ghibli, as opposed to the 'adult' anime which most fans expect people of a certain age to watch.

mitsuko2 - June 12, 2006 12:56 AM (GMT)
I agree compleatly! It is so tiresom to watch tose crappy animes! Like, even though Final Fantasy: Unlimited is a kids show, it has a great plotline. If you really like anime, then you should join my friend's RP, Project: Yggdrasil. You can find the link in the spam section. :D

LadyMakaze - June 12, 2006 01:10 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (mitsuko2 @ Jun 11 2006, 05:56 PM)
I agree compleatly! It is so tiresom to watch tose crappy animes! Like, even though Final Fantasy: Unlimited is a kids show, it has a great plotline.

One thing among many I'd complain about the series is *cough* major stock footage ahoy.*cough*

Well really, anime crosses a HUGE range and spectrum of genres that targets various target markets and demographics at time, so really, I don't think that there is one 'superior' anime or anime genre over the rest. But I do agree with the fact that there are various anime series out there that are bit lacking in the creativity, aesthetic, and taste department. You have those Studio Ghibli feature-length OAV's, which are definately up there in my list of favourites. You have those original episode based series that are, though rare to find, remarkable and memorable in their own way.

And then you have those that are less than remarkable due to incorporation of repetitive action or cutesy devices, and finally, you have the H-department. Nuff said.

So yeah, I agree that while there are a number of truly remarkable series and feature OAV's out there, its a shame they have to be lumped in sometimes along with the more lackluster series as well as the H-department.

Cycokiller - June 14, 2006 01:42 AM (GMT)
My opinion on Dragonball Z has been expressed by a likeminded individual perfectly on Newgrounds. Look up DBZ in a nutshell. As for superior...uh...I liked Naruto (the original Japanese not that fucking Yugio style shit). Then it started the endless filler episodes, so...I also enjoyed Streetfighter II: The Animated Movie. The best thing about it was that it succeeded in making some of the moves look possible. And the hadoken was only used twice in the whole thing. Against Sagat and Bison. It was a fresh breath of kickass after that Jean Claude Van Damme travesty. What WASN'T wrong with that piece of crap?

Minase - June 19, 2006 04:51 PM (GMT)
The streetfighter movies are good I will agree but I think they took a little bit of fun out of the whole thing when they started making it too serious. I like movies like that to be what they essentially are, stupidly muscular people having stupidly over the top fights for completely idiotic reasons, I don't want anything special from street fighter or dragonball z, I leave that sort of thing up to Ghibli.

Cycokiller - June 19, 2006 06:50 PM (GMT)
I'll tell you one thing: whenever Goku was charging up his balls or whatever, I found myself waving my arms in the air and yelling "JUST HIT HIM! HE HASN'T DONE ANYTHING FOR 3 EPISODES!!!" I mean, come on.

Minase - June 20, 2006 06:38 PM (GMT)
Haha, I liked it.

I didn't like how they went from lvl. three hundred after like twenty years of training, and then got to fifteen million in two, but aside from that I thought it was cool. The charging scenes give you a chance to get a snack.

Cycokiller - June 21, 2006 05:03 AM (GMT)
I still hate the whole charging thing...and also, Goku is the only one who ever actually beats the bad guys. He makes the rest of 'em (Piccolo, Vegeta, Yamcha, Tien and Charlie Brown) superfluous. They should just do themselves a favor, go home and, like, NOT DIE.

Minase - June 21, 2006 01:25 PM (GMT)
Gohan killed Cell and Trunks killed Frieza and King Cold and everyone killed Majimbu at least once, including majimbu.

Cycokiller - June 21, 2006 09:26 PM (GMT)
Hey woah woah woah it doesn't count as a kill if he regenerates! And who finished off Cell by transporting his fat ass to some remote corner of the universe? Goku. Besides, Trunks only killed Frieza when he wasn't an important bad guy anymore.

Sephy - June 22, 2006 11:08 AM (GMT)
Cell regenerated after Goku transported him, so that left Goku in the afterlife, Cell blasted a hole right through Trunks and Gohan did a super Kame-hame-ha to actually kill him ^-^ (*is a GohanxTrunks yaoi fnagirl so remembers every episode with them in, although GokuxTrunks is nice too* ^_^)

and does a spirit bomb actually count as a Goku kill? since techically it's not his energy doing the job.

..and I acutually love Urutsukidoji, dunno why, probably because the girls reactions are rather funny, especially Akemi's "help i'm being raped! oh thanks you saved me, let me have sex with you to repay you!"

Cycokiller - June 22, 2006 05:02 PM (GMT)
Oh yeah...I guess Gohan did get the final one. EXCEPT! That when he was doing it, Goku's ghost or whatever was all like "hey you can't beat the bad guy once and for all without me being here cuz I'm an attention whore!"

Minase - June 22, 2006 06:46 PM (GMT)
Krillin killed a ton of little green shits all by himself.

Sephy - June 22, 2006 07:13 PM (GMT)
I think Cell was the only villian where Goku was actually on time to fight, even in the Buu saga he waited till everyone'd gotten killed before fighting, some hero :rolleyes:

Minase - June 22, 2006 07:31 PM (GMT)
In one episode of GT all the Z-fighters killed like every bad guy ever all together.

Sephy - June 22, 2006 08:13 PM (GMT)
You mean the one where Android 17 opened the gate to the HFIL which had been inexplicably renamed Hades? :P

Minase - June 23, 2006 03:21 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Sephy @ Jun 22 2006, 08:13 PM)
You mean the one where Android 17 opened the gate to the HFIL which had been inexplicably renamed Hades? :P

HFIL and Hades are different places. HFIL is where people who do fuck all go when they die, Hades is where evil people go to. Don't you remember when Cell and Frieza escape into HFIL and start smashing it up?

Cycokiller - June 23, 2006 07:04 PM (GMT)
...I remember on one episode I ate the contents of my entire fridge mySELF WAITING FOR THE DAMN SPIRIT BALL!!

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