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Rahona
Posted: Sep 15 2009, 04:36 PM


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Between homework and school things, I have been working on figuring out how to draw Perverendus. However there are a couple things that I want every one to have a chance to shout about.



First, should he have a coat? If we give him one, I vote that it is a trench coat.


Second, do you want him to have his wings above his arms? the other way around? no wings? State you opinion.


Third, how should his arms be? All thin and scaly like his legs? Feathered to the elbow? Feathered to halfway down the lower arm? I figure that he will need quite a few muscles to lift his sword, so I am thinking he should have feathers at least covering most of his muscles, such as down to his mid lower arm.



PICTURES!!!

Quills' (first?) idea


All shoe bill (me)





Please post about any thoughts you have for what Perverendus should look like.

I will be editing this post soon to include links to all of the pictures we have of him so far on the internet. If I miss a picture of him you know about, please tell me.



Any Thoughts?



~Rahona


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late at night I sit alone, high up in a tree.
the forest it sings to me, as the tree and I gently sway in a cool breeze.
the day's troubles and worries fall apart, and nothing is left,
but the moon, tree, me, and the forests song.
But when I look out to the horizon,
All I see is flames and black smoke.

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Felldrake
Posted: Sep 15 2009, 05:25 PM


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Unless he demands one as I am drawing him, I am not going to give Perverendus a coat.

If he has wings, I definitely think they should be above his arms. I will probably draw him that way but would not be opposed to a wingless version if someone else draws that.

At least his upper arms should be feathered. I'm undecided how far down the feathers should go beyond that, though. I'm thinking scaled hands, though, certainly.

That's my two cents for the moment.


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Dances With Dentaquills
Posted: Sep 17 2009, 06:19 AM


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I agree with the arms: feathered to the middle of the upper arm at least. I like up to the elbow-ish.

I like my wings lower than the arms aerodynamically and anatomically, but above them aesthetically, so idk.


I support COATS.

http://www.militaryheritage.com/images/rm_coat2.jpg (back? idk)

http://www.argoss.co.uk/pictures/british_greatcoat.jpg (lol Argoss... xD )

http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b160/Gro...sc/P1010010.jpg (badass hell yes? seems to be a partial Perverendus gijinka.. o_o )

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v203/ukali74/1-4.jpg (a little too french)

http://www.sparkefilms.com/wardrobe/wardro...w1greatcoat.jpg (perfect colour, nice cut. Love the shoes.)


He'll need a shorter neck than a real stork, not like Dr. Variens, otherwise it'll not look as badass. I also think he should have quite thick arms, similar to a human male, though the proportions should still be avian.


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HAL8999
Posted: Sep 17 2009, 10:25 AM


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Coats are a good idea, perhaps a surcoat? Of the greatcoats you linked to, I like the second and last ones best. Either sort of coat could be suitable for combat with a one-handed sword. I still suppot falchions (mind you, a real one would be pointier) as opposed to broadswords, but either can work.


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Felldrake
Posted: Sep 17 2009, 07:49 PM


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As far as I can tell, the first-limb-set wings should work on a biped, so long as the torso is not lengthened overmuch.

Shorter neck would look more badass.

HAL, can you give us a pic of a surcoat?


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I'm not your only friend
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But really I'm not actually your friend
But I am

~They Might Be Giants, Birdhouse in Your Soul

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Rahona
Posted: Sep 20 2009, 08:51 AM


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Oooh yes, I love the middle coat best Quills. (I have another picture of a coat to show, but I can't find the picture right now) I am certainly for the idea of him having a coat, as soon as I figure out how he would put it on. Does any one have ideas for that? I was starting to think about the idea of the bottom part of the coat unbuttoning and re-buttoning so that he can get his wings to go though a hole (no sleeves on wings, that would just be redundant)


I agree with the idea of having the feathers go to about or a little below his elbow.

However I think that having the wings connect above the arms would both look very awkward on a biped, and would be very difficult for him to fly with (unless his head and neck were either very long or very heavy) because of how unbalanced he would be, most of his torso, his legs, arms, and tail on one side of his wings, and his head and neck on the other. So I think that his arms should be connected above his legs, but below his arms, so that they connect in about the middle of his torso, and so make him more balanced when flying.


Hal, if one of them did not work, then why would they have been made and used in history?

However, I am no too attached to which exact weapon he has. Either would probably suit him alright. One being more for bludgeoning some one over the head, the other for doing the same in more situations with a bit less weight. (the falchion seems to me to be a little better at chopping a person's head off, while a broadsword seams to me to be better at knocking their head in.)


I agree with you Quills, that he would need a shorter neck, although perhaps not quite as short as you drew him on Tegaki E.

~Rahona


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late at night I sit alone, high up in a tree.
the forest it sings to me, as the tree and I gently sway in a cool breeze.
the day's troubles and worries fall apart, and nothing is left,
but the moon, tree, me, and the forests song.
But when I look out to the horizon,
All I see is flames and black smoke.

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HAL8999
Posted: Sep 21 2009, 11:38 AM


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Part of what I like about a falchion as opposed to a broadsword is that the falchion has less knightly/noble implications to get in the way of half-mad badassery. Also, the guard on most falchions curves over the knuckles, instead of just being a simple cross, which makes parrying without gauntlets much safer.

Surcoats look like this. Sleeveless, light armor, made from leather or thick cloth. Typically, though not always, work over a hauberk, which would not be practical for our hero if he intends to fly.

I'll leave anatomical considerations to you bio people.


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Allosaurus
Posted: Sep 21 2009, 02:54 PM


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Expect a longer post in a little bit, but for now- remember that Perverendus's original genesis was "How about a Shoebill with a Broadsword?", which has a flow and meter.

Falchion does, however, more closely resemble his beak, particularly if you sharpened the wrong side.


Then again, who says he cannot wield both?


—Allosaurus, Warrior of the Sun


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"Tell me what, human hero, tell me why
Do share with me all you know
So much better than I.
Do tell me, what is right and what is wrong for me
And why I care; if I should cry.
Please tell me, human hero."
the demon sang.

"Do not mistake me for what I am not
Shadow in the night; silver under moonlight
I was once a human hero, that is true
But all has fallen;
Walls asunder
Since long ago I knew you.
And so I ask you now
Why do you want to know?"
his voice was low in the moonlight
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HAL8999
Posted: Sep 30 2009, 06:04 PM


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By both do you mean Florentine style, or one at a time, as the situation requires? neither sword is really well designed to serve as an off-hand weapon... The only thing that resembles a shoebill's beak and is sharp on the correct side would be a Khukri. I think you lot already know my feelings on that subject, but I don't think a khukri would really fit PV's style. It might work as an offhand or backup weapon, though.


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Dances With Dentaquills
Posted: Oct 15 2009, 08:04 AM


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