the list:

Supreme sorceress – level 4 dark Pegasus focus familiar 2 null talismans sacrificial dagger talisman of protection 405

Master – lance, repeater crossbow heavy armour shield sea dragon cloak manticore standard of slaughter 335

Sorceress – level 2, 2 scrolls 185

10 crossbowmen – shields musician 117

10 crossbowmen – shields musician 117

10 crossbowmen – shields musician 117

5 shades – blood shade great weapons light armour 113

5 shades – blood shade light armour 103

5 shades – blood shade light armour 103

2 repeater bolt throwers 200

Assassin – ad hand weapon, rune of khaine, man bane 146

thats a 2k list


there will be some pics when i can get my phone to work so ye

ginger

Thematically, I can see how this would work as a raiders/ambush list. In practice, I have grave concerns about how this list would function.

Off the top, lose the shields on all the crossbowmen. The points could be better spent buffing another unit of shades.

Now, here's my big concern: where are the rank-and-file troops? You have three ranged units with artillery support, three scouting units, two magi, an assassin and a mounted battle standard bearer. Which of those units is going to survive more than a round of combat? Perhaps the BSB, but only because he's on a freakin' manticore. (I'll confess to not knowing what the Standard of Slaughter does; still, unless it's a 100-point banner-o'-awesomeness, it's not worth it.) Seventy-two shots ([30 x 2] + [6 x 2]) looks good on paper, but now you've become a wood elf army. Shades do not equal dryads. An assassin does not equal a unit of wardancers. If your shooting fails -- and it can happen; I've had a five-pack of goblin wolf riders survive fifty-two delf shots with only two wounds! Yes, I rolled a healthy number of 6s, but that furthers my point -- you're going to have to rely on magic. If you miscast or are dispelled, you're going to have to rely on... what?

Without the new delf book in front of me, here's what I'd do to tweak the list:

• Demote your first sorceress to Level 2 and tweak the items accordingly;
• Replace the BSB with a Lord-level fighter on foot;
• Lose a unit of crossbowmen; and
• Use all remaining points to put your lord in a unit of Black F'n Guard. Seriously, Guard FTFW.

You can still rain down hell with your ranged troops and magic, but now they're not the crutch of the army. Pressure has been relieved from the shades, allowing them to go about their business. Your centerpiece is a scary, rock-hard unit with an equally impressive character that can add insult to injury with the help of the assassin.

Thoughts?

Dark Elves do not function well trying to survive endless round of combat. So as long as its fast and all hard hitting OR can supply ranged support then he will be fine.

Sacrficial Dagger on a Mage on a Pegasus, wtf?

I'll give more advice as soon as this virus checker is done and I can type without major laggg.

Agreed; they're not skaven or greenskins, so having a 25-elf block of spears is impractical. Still, something needs to get in close and do the (as you mention) heavy hitting; Black Guard with a Lord (and possibly assassin) are ideal for this.

Heh, thanks for pointing out the Pegasus, DC; yeah, drop that and spend the points on Black Guard, maybe saving a few to add great weapons to all the shades.

i forgot two mention i dnt have long to get a dark elf list
so you know

DC you said that a supreme sorcereress on pegusi is gd but hey

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@Ginger:I did, but I also said that a FOCUS FAMILIAR would go well OR take her OFF the peggy and give her thedagger in unit of 20-30 vanila spears...

NOOOB!

But yeh. Its ok now so get to that tourney and kick some mother-f*****g ass.

This list has broken more rules than I've seen in a long time. A long time.

First: Supreme Sorceress with Focus Familiar and Sacrificial Dagger? They're two seperate Arcane Items, not Scrolls. One or the other, and in this case the Familiar is what I'd keep.

Second: 2 Nulls Stones and the Talisman of Protection. Seriously, when it says that a hero can have multiple Null Stones as if they were scrolls, you can't combine them with other Talismans like a scroll. One of those has to go as well, and I'd be tempted with all of them and just go with the Pendant of Khaeleth.

Third: Masters can't take standards without being the Battle Standard Bearer (It's not listed, therefore not there). You also cannot take a Shield or Missile Weapon, in this case the Repeater Crossbow, while carrying the Battle Standard. I also believe he can't be mounted on a Manticore, but don't quote me on that.


And Rituro and DC? I'm ashamed at the both of you. If you know the Fantasy System so well then you'd have picked up those huge, gaping, glaring errors earlier!

If I owned/had read the new delf book, I'm sure I'd know all the nitty gritty (magic items, masters as BSBs, etc). :P Had those kind of errors been made on a greenskin or Empire army, I'd be all over it.

what ever
i am not takin this list cus its crap