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 Iran Calls Us Tape Faked
mynameis
Posted: Jan 10 2008, 02:43 PM


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Iran releases own video of U.S. Gulf incident
Thu Jan 10, 2008 10:50am EST

TEHRAN (Reuters) - Iran released a video on Thursday which it said showed its boats did not threaten U.S. navy vessels in the Gulf, countering Washington's account of the event which President George W. Bush called "a provocative act".

The video, aired by Iran's Press TV satellite station, gave a completely different version of Sunday's incident in the Strait of Hormuz compared with one released earlier this week by the U.S. Department of Defense.

http://www.reuters.com/article/newsOne/idUSDAH03820820080110


Iran Accuses U.S. of Faking Persian Gulf Video
By NAZILA FATHI

TEHRAN — Iran’s Revolutionary Guard accused the United States on Wednesday of fabricating a video showing Iranian speedboats confronting United States Navy warships in the Persian Gulf over the weekend, according to a report carried by the semiofficial Fars news agency and state-run television.

“Images released by the U.S. Department of Defense about the Navy vessels were made from file pictures, and the audio was fabricated,” an unnamed Revolutionary Guard official said, according to Fars, which has close links to the Revolutionary Guard. It was the first time Iran had commented on the video that the Pentagon released Tuesday.

The audio includes a statement that says, “I am coming to you,” and adds, “You will explode after a few minutes.” The voice was recorded from the internationally recognized channel for ship-to-ship communications, Navy officials have said.

The Pentagon immediately dismissed the assertion that the video, which shows Iranian speedboats maneuvering around and among the Navy warships, had been fabricated. Bryan Whitman, a Pentagon spokesman, said Iran’s “allegation is absurd, factually incorrect and reflects the lack of seriousness with which they take this serious incident.”

Naval and Pentagon officials have said that the video and audio were recorded separately, then combined. On Wednesday, Pentagon officials, who spoke on the condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to speak officially, said they were still trying to determine if the transmission came from the speedboats or elsewhere.

The unnamed Revolutionary Guard official quoted in the Iranian news media asserted that the video of the speedboats had been released to coincide with a trip by President Bush to the Middle East and “was in line with a project of the Western media to create fear.” The official said the sounds and images on the video did not go together, adding, “It is very clear that they are fake.”

The Fars news agency had said that the confrontation had been fabricated to present Iran as a threat to its neighbors before Mr. Bush’s trip so he could justify United States forces in the gulf.

The episode was initially described Monday by American officials who said it took place Sunday in the Strait of Hormuz.

They said five armed Iranian speedboats approached three United States Navy warships in international waters, then maneuvered aggressively as a radio threat was issued that the American ships would be blown up. No shots were fired. The video runs slightly more than four minutes and, Pentagon officials said, was shot from the bridge of the guided-missile destroyer Hopper.

The audio includes a heavily accented voice warning in English that the Navy warships would explode. However, the recording carries no ambient noise — the sounds of a motor, the sea or wind — that would be expected if the broadcast had been made from one of the five small boats that sped around the three-ship American convoy.

Pentagon officials said they could not rule out that the broadcast might have come from shore, or from another ship nearby, although it might have come from one of the five fast boats with a high-quality radio system.

The Revolutionary Guards arrested 15 British sailors in Persian Gulf waters last year and accused them of entering Iranian waters. They were kept in a secret location for two weeks before they were released in April. Their boats were seized by Iranian authorities and have not been returned. A Foreign Ministry spokesman said on Wednesday that Iran was willing to return the boats but that British authorities had not followed up, the official IRNA news agency reported.

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/01/10/world/mi...agewanted=print
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"Coalition warship 73 this (is) Iranian navy patrol boat, request side number ... operating in the area (at) this time."

Maybe with a heavy Persian accent, it might sound like, "We are coming to blow you up".

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Posted: Jan 10 2008, 03:04 PM


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It was on the BBC that US officials are now saying the voice may not have come from the Iranian boats.
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Posted: Jan 14 2008, 06:11 AM


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Posted: Jan 14 2008, 10:45 AM


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it just doesn't make sense that Iran would fuck with the US... no sense at all.

that's like saying, "Hey I was out in the African Savanah and I saw a cockroach chase down a lion!

LOL :lol:
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mynameis
Posted: Jan 14 2008, 11:19 AM


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QUOTE (look-up @ Jan 14 2008, 03:45 PM)
it just doesn't make sense that Iran would fuck with the US... no sense at all.

that's like saying, "Hey I was out in the African Savanah and I saw a cockroach chase down a lion!

LOL :lol:

Then the lion swallows the cockroach, chokes, and dies. Cockroach then scurries away nearly unscathed.
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Posted: Jan 14 2008, 01:50 PM


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QUOTE (mynameis @ Jan 14 2008, 04:19 PM)
QUOTE (look-up @ Jan 14 2008, 03:45 PM)
it just doesn't make sense that Iran would fuck with the US... no sense at all.

that's like saying, "Hey I was out in the African Savanah and I saw a cockroach chase down a lion!

LOL  :lol:

Then the lion swallows the cockroach, chokes, and dies. Cockroach then scurries away nearly unscathed.

that's right... it's like the media and establishment want us to think that the rulers of all middle-eastern nations are wackos who just want to attack us and blow us up because they have nothing better to do...

well yea keeping their lives is something "better to do" for sure. they know if they attack us, we'd blow them to kingdom come in a second...

so why would anyone do such a thing?

Ahmedenijad (sp?) seems relatively sane in his speeches actually. Not that he's a great man. I'm sure he is not. But he certainly isn't without his mental faculties.
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Posted: Jan 15 2008, 08:00 AM


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Probably the purpose of the administration Bush is to bring soon peace and democracy in Iran, as it already did for Iraq.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QT_4oMQIxQQ

http://video.google.fr/videoplay?docid=-38...earch&plindex=0

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rz7UNxnOI3M
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Analysis of Dave Lindorff on this subject:

http://www.thiscantbehappening.net/?q=node/96


Things Have Gotten So Crazy Now a Prankster Could Start World War III!

President Bush, a lame-duck loose cannon, is traipsing around the Middle East calling Iran a state sponsor of terror and condemning what he calls Iran’s “provocative” acts in the Strait of Hormuz at the choke point between the Persian Gulf and the Arabian Sea.

Everyone knows the president and his viceroy, Vice President Dick Cheney, are just itching to launch American bombers and cruise missiles against Iran before the end of this second nightmarish term of office, and now we hear that the so-called “provocative” incident, which we were told was replete with threats to blow up a destroyer in “15 seconds” was actually the work of a “prankster” who was making threats on the air using English with a faked (badly) Iranian accent.
So has this brush with disaster, which would have surely ensued had the US Navy fired on Iranian speedboats in their vicinity, led the president to pull back from his bellicosity?

No. On the contrary, he’s upping the ante, calling Iran a terrorist state, thus implicitly giving himself permission to “take them out.” Luckily for us and for the longsuffering people of Iran, the US Navy is run by officers who are not crazy, who don’t want another war, and who especially don’t want a war that includes having a fleet of American ships stuck like sitting ducks in the confined space of the Persian Gulf in the sights of hundreds of Iranian shore-to-ship missiles. (They were all sunk in minutes with a loss of a whole aircraft carrier battle group and 20,000 crewmembers in a Pentagon war game played in 2002 and then hushed up.)

As long as the admirals in Washington, and the captains on those ships in harm’s way, keep their cool, and don’t let themselves be provoked by the hotheads in the White House and in Tehran who see political benefits in provoking hostilities, Bush’s wet dream of a third war in the Middle East against Iran won’t come true.
The same can’t be said for the US media, which for the most part have been trumpeting all the president’s scariest and most threatening lines, while burying the news that the provocation in the Gulf was faked.

A real news organization worthy of the name would be trying to find out who’s behind the fakery. It shouldn’t be hard—a military that can use satellite technology to send a cruise missile or a Predator drone-fired missile crashing down onto the holder of a cell phone, should have no trouble locating the source of a fake ship-to-ship communication. (Unless of course it turns out that the message was the work not of a prankster, but of someone working for the Bush gang.)

Let’s be clear here. The naval armada that Bush has assembled in the Gulf has no function other than to threaten Iran. The US military has adequate air bases on land in and around Iraq to handle all the needs of US troops in that country, and the ships in the gulf are of no use whatsoever in the conflict in landlocked Afghanistan, because they can’t send planes there without overflying Iran.
Their role is simply to provoke. To provoke what? Why a war, of course.
Congress needs to pull the plug on this madness before one of the many scams and schemes of the Bush/Cheney gang succeeds in the president’s goal of getting a hot war going between the US and Iran.

A really amateurish effort—prank or black-op—to make a routine cat-and-mouse game by Iranian speedboats and a US battle group into a live-fire incident with dead bodies in the water—could have succeeded.

There must be no next time. It’s time to move forward, with dispatch, on Dennis Kucinich’s bill of impeachment against Cheney, which features the administration’s aggressive efforts to foment a war against Iran in violation of the UN Charter.

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Posted: Jan 15 2008, 01:32 PM


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my computer windows xp was fried right after I e-mailed cnn with the suggestion
that our own black ops staged the incident in the arabian gulf
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