The Disappearing Thread

I'd like to know why this thread disappeared.

http://z10.invisionfree.com/Loose_Change_F...opic=12548&st=0

Usually moderators close threads and explain why they are closing them. This thread suddenly just disappeared. Was I doing anything I wasn't supposed to do?

I had a BRILLIANT thread also that was removed.

I know how you feel.

lolz

What was the topic of the thread?

I think it was me.


I spammed it... sorry!!! I was being a smart ass, and I got suspended right after, lol.... I deserved it. I was defending DaveC, as he was being accused of being on the payroll of the government. I argued, what would be the point of this, on an obscure forum? I think it was just plain paranoid to accuse DaveC when he was simply trying to legitimately argue a point. I don;t know if he was right or wrong, but I defend his right to not be ridiculed and defend his right to give his point without all this 'payroll' crap.


I'm not sure, but I'm guessing they didn't like my 10 or so posts.


Sorry Dave... but.. then again......


Maybe it had nothing to do with me; Dave may have hit a nerve? maybe because of the links I found...


http://www.erichufschmid.net/ApolloLiars.html


http://www.erichufschmid.net/Apollo_NASA.html


mmmmmmm???

I don't remember anything you said that was out-of-line.

You might be right. I notice a lot of anti-establishment pundits avoid talking about Apollo.

http://www.rebelion.org/petrasenglish.htm
http://www.killinghope.org/
http://www.zmag.org/bios/homepage.cfm?authorID=72
http://www.michaelparenti.org/articles.html
http://www.chomsky.info/

These guys don't talk about it. It might be downright dangerous for them to do so. They don't talk about 9/11 either except for Chomsky.
http://screwloosechange.blogspot.com/2006/...akes-sense.html

He can't believe what he says himself; he either works for them or he's being threatened by them. Before 9/11 I was a big Chomsky fan; I still have hope that he's being threatened.

If Chomsky started saying that Apollo was a hoax or that 9/11 was an inside job, his grandchildren would probably start to have "Accidents". The same is probably true for those other anti-establishment pundits too.

I also wonder if they were taking some heat because I was criticizing the Clavius and Bad Astronomy websites which I think are government damage-control sites.

I was discussing this issue.
http://apollohoax.proboards21.com/index.cg...read=1194111920

I was discussing the bogus reason the moderator gave for closing this thread on which I was posting.
http://www.bautforum.com/conspiracy-theori...html#post893592

Read these posts and it will be clear that the moderator was just desperate to close the thread as his people were floundering.

http://www.bautforum.com/conspiracy-theori...html#post891474
http://www.bautforum.com/conspiracy-theori...html#post892498

I was talking about this thread too which got closed before it could take off.
http://www.bautforum.com/conspiracy-theori...inside-job.html

I pointed out that this thread had gotten closed for no good reason.
http://www.bautforum.com/conspiracy-theori...-smuggling.html

I was saying that the moderators at Bad Astronomy seem to close threads if their people can't handle the situation.

I was pointing out Jay Windley's defects.
http://www.clavius.org/about.html

http://apollohoax.proboards21.com/index.cg...read=1187016551
http://apollohoax.proboards21.com/index.cg...read=1177113447

I pointed out that the moderator at Clavius closes threads when his people can't handle the topic as he did here.
http://apollohoax.proboards21.com/index.cg...read=1180875941

Is talking about other websites taboo here? Can the "Loose Change" website have problems if other websites are discussed on its forum?

I think it's a good idea to talk about how NASA faked Apollo; I think it wakes people up to the fact that the government is capable of telling big lies. People will be more open to the fact that 9/11 was an inside job if they see some other big lies the government has told. That's my idea anyway.

Do any 9/11 truthers think that talking about the Apollo hoax hurts the truth movement?

I don't remember anything you said that was out-of-line.

You might be right. I notice a lot of anti-establishment pundits avoid talking about Apollo.

http://www.rebelion.org/petrasenglish.htm
http://www.killinghope.org/
http://www.zmag.org/bios/homepage.cfm?authorID=72
http://www.michaelparenti.org/articles.html
http://www.chomsky.info/

These guys don't talk about it. It might be downright dangerous for them to do so. They don't talk about 9/11 either except for Chomsky.
http://screwloosechange.blogspot.com/2006/...akes-sense.html

He can't believe what he says himself; he either works for them or he's being threatened by them. Before 9/11 I was a big Chomsky fan; I still have hope that he's being threatened.

If Chomsky started saying that Apollo was a hoax or that 9/11 was an inside job, his grandchildren would probably start to have "Accidents". The same is probably true for those other anti-establishment pundits too.

I also wonder if they were taking some heat because I was criticizing the Clavius and Bad Astronomy websites which I think are government damage-control sites.

I was discussing this issue.
http://apollohoax.proboards21.com/index.cg...read=1194111920

I was discussing the bogus reason the moderator gave for closing this thread on which I was posting.
http://www.bautforum.com/conspiracy-theori...html#post893592

Read these posts and it will be clear that the moderator was just desperate to close the thread as his people were floundering.

http://www.bautforum.com/conspiracy-theori...html#post891474
http://www.bautforum.com/conspiracy-theori...html#post892498

I was talking about this thread too which got closed before it could take off.
http://www.bautforum.com/conspiracy-theori...inside-job.html

I pointed out that this thread had gotten closed for no good reason.
http://www.bautforum.com/conspiracy-theori...-smuggling.html

I was saying that the moderators at Bad Astronomy seem to close threads if their people can't handle the situation.

I was pointing out Jay Windley's defects.
http://www.clavius.org/about.html

http://apollohoax.proboards21.com/index.cg...read=1187016551
http://apollohoax.proboards21.com/index.cg...read=1177113447

I pointed out that the moderator at Clavius closes threads when his people can't handle the topic as he did here.
http://apollohoax.proboards21.com/index.cg...read=1180875941

Is talking about other websites taboo here? Can the "Loose Change" website have problems if other websites are discussed on its forum?

I think it's a good idea to talk about how NASA faked Apollo; I think it wakes people up to the fact that the government is capable of telling big lies. People will be more open to the fact that 9/11 was an inside job if they see some other big lies the government has told. That's my idea anyway.

Do any 9/11 truthers think that talking about the Apollo hoax hurts the truth movement?

David, I love you man. Keep talking!

I like the way you think. I hope they don't give you too much trouble from now on.


"Accidents" <------- hahaa well said! lol. Yes, plenty of these throughout history.

Also: "Work-Related Deaths" "Suicides" [usually 'jumping' out a window ;) ], etc, etc.


Cheers. B)

Chomsky..... he is absolutely being threatened I think. I bet they have his family under the thumb... fckn bastards!


Keep the hope up. I'm certain he doesn't truly mean what he is saying. I know Chomsky--- ah, ah, no way. He's being muscled. :ph43r:


Cheers. :unsure:

Apollo is sooooo shifty. I'm very skeptical of those so-called 'conspirologists' that question everything, but Apollo---- oh no, of course not, we just accept that one blindly!!!

What the friggin hell is going on here man. 'Truthers' - it seems not.

Something is seriously wrong with this picture------->> I don't know what, but something 4 sure. Doesn't add up.

Thanks for the positive feedback Jupiter_7171.

The moderator on the old Loose Change forum believed Apollo was a hoax and was calling people shills.
http://z15.invisionfree.com/Loose_Change_F...opic=4560&st=90

Here are some quotes from the moderator on the above page.

You're right. Something strange is going on here.

I noticed that on the old Loose Change forum threads weren't deleted when they got to the bottom of the first page. They let the pages accumulate.
http://z15.invisionfree.com/Loose_Change_F...dex.php?act=idx

The cost might be a factor in this though.

I don't doubt for a minute that the government can put pressure on truthers not to cross certain lines.

Look at what Steve Kangas used to write.
http://www.huppi.com/kangaroo/CIAtimeline.html
http://www.huppi.com/kangaroo/L-overclass.html
http://www.rrojasdatabank.org/econom~1.htm

Look what happened to him.
http://www.google.es/search?hl=en&q=who+ki...gas&btnG=Search

He was bumped off just a little before 9/11. I think he was one of the few anti-establishment pundits that didn't have a family. I think it's plausible that they bumped him off early because they figured they'd have a hard time getting him to be quiet about 9/11 as he didn't have any grandchildren they could kill.

If I were Noam Chomsky and some goons from the government paid me a visit and said they'd start killing my grandchildren if I didn't play ball, I'd do exactly what he's doing. There are a few other lines he doesn't cross too; he's probably been under threat for years.

Anyone who is in a position to inform large numbers of people of things the government doesn't want them to know may get threatened. That incluces people who run websites. I suppose we should be understanding.

You were defending DavidC? What of his accusations that people who don't believe that Apollo was hoaxed are also Government shills? He stated time and time again that I was a US government shill, something he would find particularly impossible to prove (for starters, I'm a UK citizen and suspect I would have a particularly hard time getting security-clearance for such a sensitive job). I was simply demonstrating how easy it is to accuse someone of what DavidC was accusing myself (and others) of, by pure speculation and insinuation, rather than evidence. I guess the irony went undetected.

As to why the Hannity thread was deleted, I'd like to know myself. At worst it should have been locked, but deleting a thread accomplishes little and is tantamount to book-burning IMO, regardless how outlandish the subject being discussed.

Re your suspension, perhaps the forum owner decided that posting images of vibrators wasn't really on topic? I guess the moral is, if you have nothing of value to contribute to a thread, then don't - unless you want it deleted. Lesson learnt hopefully?

Let's here your opinion of the issue raised here.

http://z10.invisionfree.com/Loose_Change_F...showtopic=19386

Hey postbaguk

You pro-Apollo people are usually very active in moon threads on this forum. Why aren't you trying to debunk the alleged anomaly in the current moon thread?

Hey postbaguk

Let's continue the discussion that got interupted when the other thread disappeared.

The moderator at Bad Astronomy closed this thread.
http://www.bautforum.com/conspiracy-theori...html#post893592

He said it was because I hadn't answered the questions asked of me here.
http://www.bautforum.com/conspiracy-theori...html#post891474

I had in fact answered them as you can see here.
http://www.bautforum.com/conspiracy-theori...html#post892498

I think the moderator was desperate to close the thread because his people were floundering.
Why do you think he closed the thread?

I tried to continue the discussion here but they closed this thread too.
http://www.bautforum.com/conspiracy-theori...inside-job.html

As you can see I pointed out to the moderator that I'd answered the questions.
http://www.bautforum.com/conspiracy-theori...html#post903808

I also repeated a question that never got answered at the other thread about the mathematical proof.

They ignored both of these questions and closed the thread with a very lame excuse. They also rearranged the order of posts. They are not in the same order as they were when it got closed.

I started a thread to complain about it.
http://www.bautforum.com/about-baut/52393-...ow-tactics.html

I finally got this really lame response.
http://www.bautforum.com/about-baut/52393-...html#post904848

These people couldn't discredit the idea that a 757 hadn't hit the Pentagon so they desperately closed the thread with some lame excuses.

Look at this thread.
This is the most blatant case of censorship I've ever seen on a forum.
http://www.bautforum.com/conspiracy-theori...-smuggling.html
http://www.bautforum.com/archive/index.php/t-49821.html

Look at the lame excuse the moderator gave for closing the thread. It was obviously a topic that they wouldn't be able to discredit and they just didn't want to deal with it.

This is obviously government damage-control site and they strictly control the direction the debates are taking.
http://www.badastronomy.com/

If they lose control, they just close threads with lame excuses.

Tell us what you think of the situation.