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 Police Guilty Over Menezes Case
Posted: Nov 1 2007, 10:34 AM

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Police guilty over Menezes case

London's police force has been found guilty of endangering the public over the shooting dead of a man officers mistook for a suicide bomber.

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The Metropolitan Police broke health and safety laws when they chased Brazilian Jean Charles de Menezes across the city, a jury decided.

Armed police shot Mr de Menezes at Stockwell Tube station on 22 July 2005.

The Old Bailey jury said police chief Cressida Dick, who led the operation, bore "no personal culpability".

The force has been fined 175,000 and ordered to pay 385,000 in costs.

The unprecedented, highly controversial trial came after prosecutors said that no individual officer could be held responsible for the electrician's death.

Instead, they said the force, represented by the Met Commissioner's Office, should be tried for failing to protect the public from the risks posed by a suspected suicide bomber on the loose.

The Met vehemently denied the allegation during the trial, saying that there was no case for it to answer.

'Tragic death'

In a statement, Len Duvall, chair of the Metropolitan Police Authority (MPA), said policing in London was "a tough business".

"We ask the police to do a difficult job on our behalf and sometimes they make mistakes," Mr Duvall said.

"This case led to the tragic death of an innocent man. Our ultimate aim is to make sure we all learn from this tragedy."

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The MPA said it fully supported Met Police Commissioner Sir Ian Blair and would continue to work with him.

But the Liberal Democrats and Conservatives have called for Sir Ian to resign.

Nick Clegg, Lib Dem home affairs spokesman, said: "This guilty verdict makes it unavoidable that Ian Blair should take responsibility on behalf of his whole organisation and resign."

'Isolated breach'

During the trial, Clare Montgomery QC, prosecuting, told the jury that Scotland Yard commanders had made a string of errors on 22 July that culminated in an unwarranted risk to the public and ultimately the death of Mr de Menezes.

Sir Ian had warned before the trial began that a guilty verdict would have profound effects on policing.

He said officers would be left in a difficult position of not being able to use their judgement in emergency situations, out of fear of breaking the law.

After the verdict was delivered, Mr Justice Henriques said: "This was very much an isolated breach brought about by quite extraordinary circumstances.

"One person died and many others were placed in potential danger."

In deciding on a penalty, the judge said he was aware that a heavy fine would result in a loss to the public purse and a reduction in essential policing.


The operation began when detectives investigating the failed suicide bombings of the previous day linked one of the suspects, Hussain Osman, to a block of flats in south London.

Mr de Menezes also lived in the block, and when he left home at 0930 BST, surveillance officers were unsure if he was their target.

Ms Montgomery told the court the situation had worsened because senior officers failed to keep to their own agreed plan, while firearms teams were both poorly briefed and in the wrong locations.

This meant that it became impossible to effectively stop the suspected suicide bomber before he boarded a bus and headed for the underground system.

The Met denied this, saying its commanders and officers on the ground did all they could to apprehend the bombers and minimise the risks to the public.

The trial and investigation is estimated to have cost around 3.5 million in public money.

Posted: Nov 1 2007, 02:45 PM

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The officers involved in the shooting were both members of common purpose.
Posted: Nov 1 2007, 06:25 PM

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Speaking as an Englishman, who has heard this news all day. And also spoken to many other people, in passing, to see what they think.

From my opinion and what I have heard : -
We think it stinks that such a brutal murder of an innocent young lad can be undertaken without the copper who shot, and colleagues involved being directly prosecuted for murder or manslaughter.

We think that it is a gross insult that one of the only kind of trials available is an "health and safety at work" inquiry. The kind of inquiry which would happen if a scaffolding collapses at a factory causing ACCIDENTAL death or injury.

I think that this limited inquiry has been hugely influenced by politicians, leading to much vital evidence not being presented.

Everyone thinks that it is shameful that nobody appears to want to take any blame for it, or that nobody senior has resigned.
Posted: Nov 8 2007, 11:13 AM

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Police censured over Menezes case

Jean Charles de Menezes
Jean Charles de Menezes had come to live in the UK from Brazil

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London's Metropolitan Police made serious and avoidable errors in killing an innocent man, a watchdog says.
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