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| Craig Ranke CIT |
Posted: Jul 31 2007, 04:28 PM
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The Ingersol photos are a literal treasure trove of information and they reveal the sequence of events that led to the staging of light pole #1 on route 27 headed southbound while giving an incredible look into the details as they unfolded.
One of these images is extremely strong evidence that the pole was planted after the fact. But here is a bit of a back story regarding these images first: Jason Ingersol took some of the most famous high resolution photos of the pentagon attack that exist. He was at the Navy Annex at the time of the attack and walked down to the scene snapping shots along the way. Dylan and Russell can vouch for the fact that we obtained the ENTIRE Ingersol collection on our first trip to Arlington from Christoper Landis at the VDOT (Virginia Dept. of Transportation) who was Operations Manager for Safety Service Patrol. The VDOT takes care of all light pole maintenance as well and you can see me inspect the same style light poles that were downed on 9/11 in their yard here. These images will give you a perspective as to where the VDOT is in relation to the Pentagon and light poles which is where Christopher Landis worked and where I inspected the poles. (Posted Image) (Posted Image) Getting the entire Ingersol photo collection was a major score because there were many images we hadn't seen online and they were all the original super high resolution versions in order. In an extremely strange and suspicious twist that we can only pray is a coincidence.....soon after Christopher Landis gave us these images, he committed suicide. (Posted Image) (Posted Image) (Posted Image) The obituary was published in the Washington post on November 16th 2006. Christopher Kit Landis So this happened about 2.5 months after we met him and he gave us the images, and about a week after I was back there, had a tour of the VDOT again, and obtained the citgo witness testimony on camera. Coincidence? We can only hope so but he was a very young man with 4 young children (2 boys and 2 girls) and a great job. I can say that he was noticeably nervous when we talked to him. In fact Merc even mentioned this in a post from September 2006 soon after our first trip. Regardless of what you want to think about all that; we all still have the images. First I will post the unaltered images from the beginning until he reaches Lloyd and his cab and I will indicate the time of each image and label them with their original name. They are all as high resolution as possible to host on photobucket. The date on the images reads 9/11/2001 but the time on the images indicates exactly 13 hours later than actual time. Since the series starts at 45 minutes past the hour I believe that the minutes are correct because it seems feasible to suggest he started taking pics about 7 minutes after the "attack" which was at about 38 minutes past the hour and everything coincides right down to his first image of the collapsed roof taken at 21 minutes after the next hour. No matter how you look at it the time gives you a good reference for how many minutes between each image. image name: DSC_0404 time taken: "10:45 PM" will reference as "9:45" (Posted Image) image name: DSC_0405 time taken: 9:45 (Posted Image) DSC_0406 time taken: 9:45 (Posted Image) DSC_0407 time taken: 9:46 (Posted Image) DSC_0408 time taken: 9:47 (Posted Image) DSC_0409 time taken: 9:48 (Posted Image) DSC_0410 time taken: 9:48 (Posted Image) DSC_0411 time taken: 9:48 (Posted Image) DSC_0412 time taken: 9:48 (first image showing cab. traffic not blocked yet. pole is not there) (Posted Image) DSC_0413 time taken: 9:49 (Posted Image) DSC_0414 time taken: 9:49 (Posted Image) DSC_0415 time taken: 9:52 (feds now guarding area, pole is now there) (Posted Image) DSC_0416 time taken: 9:52 (pole visible) (Posted Image) DSC_0417 time taken: 9:54 (pole visible, traffic completely blocked) (Posted Image) DSC_0418 time taken: 9:54 (traffic completely blocked) (Posted Image) DSC_0419 time taken: 9:55 (Posted Image) DSC_0420 time taken: 9:56 (Posted Image) DSC_0421 time taken: 9:57 (Posted Image) |
| Craig Ranke CIT |
Posted: Jul 31 2007, 04:34 PM
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added to OP instead. (mods please delete)
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| Craig Ranke CIT |
Posted: Jul 31 2007, 04:44 PM
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Here's the deal.......
In image DSC_0412 at 9:48 you can see the cab is in place but the pole is not. (Posted Image) (Posted Image) But 4 minutes later at 9:52 in image DSC_0415 you can see that the feds have now blocked the area off and pole one has been placed. (Posted Image) (Posted Image) Notice how area is completely blocked off. (red suzuki is empty) from DSC_0418 at 9:54 (Posted Image) |
| buddy |
Posted: Jul 31 2007, 04:48 PM
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are you sure it's just not an issue of being able to see the light pole behind the guardrail?
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| Craig Ranke CIT |
Posted: Jul 31 2007, 04:54 PM
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Can't be 100% sure about that but it's certainly not visible. Since the feds rolled up, surrounded Lloyd's scene, and blocked traffic off at that very moment, and then the pole is seen only after that; the images make a compelling case for the pole being planted at that time. You can't see the pole AT ALL behind the guardrail in images 12 or 13 before the feds were there. But then you CAN see at least a portion of the pole behind the guardrail in 15, 16, 17, 18, & 19 after the feds showed up and secured the scene. |
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| fretwire |
Posted: Jul 31 2007, 04:56 PM
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The most amazing thing about pole #1 is that nice beautiful bend in it.
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| Craig Ranke CIT |
Posted: Jul 31 2007, 05:00 PM
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| buddy |
Posted: Jul 31 2007, 05:06 PM
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isn't that just from the perspective of the shot? It looks like pole #3 to me. As you look down the pole, it eventually curves over as part of the overhang prt over the steet. No? |
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| Craig Ranke CIT |
Posted: Jul 31 2007, 05:14 PM
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The perspective of pole one in other shots makes it look straighter than it was but that is pole one and there was a bend in the top. In fact Lloyd said that he "fell down" while removing the pole because it "flipped" as he was pulling it out because he was not aware of that bend which was allegedly hidden in the back seat. Although it looks straighter from this perspective you can still see the bend: (Posted Image) And it looks even straighter in this shot: (Posted Image) |
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| Craig Ranke CIT |
Posted: Jul 31 2007, 05:21 PM
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Check out this red headed dude with the red tie that you can see in the bottom left corner of image 417.
No doubt he was driving one of the fed cars that blocked off the scene. (Posted Image) We need to figure out his name and get him in for questioning. |
| buddy |
Posted: Jul 31 2007, 05:28 PM
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But these poles wouldn't fit in a van. So where did they come from? Or is the working theory that dudes from the white van deliberately knocked them over?
I can see how the official flight path cannot have knocked over the lightpoles, and I can see that Lloyd's hood has no scratches at all, yet he claimed to have pulled the lightpole out of his car (why I have no idea), but I just can't see a scenario that puts it all together. I wish I could go back in time. |
| buddy |
Posted: Jul 31 2007, 05:35 PM
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One thing this shows is the importance to take pictures and video not just of the focus of the incident, but also things going on in the vicinity. Something to keep in mind if something like this happens again. Watch for a man with an umbrella.
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| Craig Ranke CIT |
Posted: Jul 31 2007, 05:42 PM
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Well 4 of the 5 poles could have been already placed since they were off to the side. There is no way they knocked over the pole at that time. Pole number one COULD have been in a van with a few feet sticking out of the back covered with a rug or something. Those are big industrial vans. Or maybe it was unloaded from a truck or hidden off to the side out of sight and pulled onto the road. |
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| Scarecrow |
Posted: Jul 31 2007, 05:46 PM
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The pole was simply lying on the shoulder. No one would notice it. Once it starts it's move away from the curb/guardrail/shoulder it would appear to be "a pole knocked down by the plane". |
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| buddy |
Posted: Jul 31 2007, 05:47 PM
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I don't think this is it. Or it being in a van. I think there still are some missing pieces. |
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| JackD |
Posted: Jul 31 2007, 05:52 PM
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the virginia dept of transportation (VDOT) -- they keep video records, or were they confiscated by FBI on 9/11?
in fact, would these confiscated videos reveal a lot of interesting movement of cars and people going on @ Rt 27 that morning.... before, after, and during 'plane strike' Makes you wonder double-hard why the FBI won't release the 83 video images |
| Craig Ranke CIT |
Posted: Jul 31 2007, 05:52 PM
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A good thing to note from this series of images is how steep and far down the hill goes to the Pentagon from the Navy Annex.
When people analyze the flight path with overhead shots like this: (Posted Image) or this: (Posted Image) It's real hard to imagine how complex the topography is. It's not even close to flat. The plane would have had to make a very difficult steep and fast descent after the navy annex to come in low enough to hit the light poles and damage the building only on the bottom two floors as reported. You can't even see the impact point from the Navy annex parking lot and can barely see the Pentagon at all! This shot is right on Columbia Pike between the VDOT and Navy Annex right before the hill starts going down: (Posted Image) |
| buddy |
Posted: Jul 31 2007, 05:56 PM
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You know, if I were planning an inside job like 9/11, I would assign a guy to take care of each crash. They would have to make sure that blame fell on the intended scapegoat and that all evidence pointed to that scapegoat. I wonder if they guy who was in charge of handling the pentagon op screwed up so much that they just have to leave it alone and not talk about it. Nothing makes sense. Not with the official story, and not with any alternative I have found so far.
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| Craig Ranke CIT |
Posted: Jul 31 2007, 05:56 PM
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Ok well realize that we have already proven the light poles were staged with the citgo witness testimony. We can only hypothesize as to exactly how they got the pole there but they did it somehow and these images show the area/scene was EXTREMELY controlled as we should expect. Nobody would have noticed the pole off to the side or thought about how or when it got there. |
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| Craig Ranke CIT |
Posted: Jul 31 2007, 06:02 PM
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They don't record. FOIA requests have been filed to get the footage and they all ended saying there was no footage. The public relations guy gave me a tour of the inside showing camera views and you can hear him answer this question in this video clip: inside vdot |
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