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alive and still talking
Posted: Jun 2 2007, 04:56 PM


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SCHEDULED PRESIDENTIAL DEBATES-cspan

June 3 - New Hampshire

July 23 Charleston, SC

August 19 Des Moines, IA

September 26 Manchester, NH

October 30 Philadelphia, PA

November 15 Las Vegas, NV

December 10 Los Angeles, CA
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GunStar1
  Posted: Jun 2 2007, 05:33 PM


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I just posted...

http://www.gravel2008.us/

... on my Australian student forum; get some international interest for this guy. It can't hurt.
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alive and still talking
Posted: Jun 2 2007, 06:13 PM


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cool bro>this needs to be a world movement, not just politics as usual, save the country. following what this guy has to say is guaranteed entertainment, that is
until he RUNS OUT OF MONEY. then its back to business as usual,lies and promises

LETS FACE IT, THE GUY HAS GUTS--HE'S BUCKING THE SYSTEM, SPOUTING THE
TRUTH, SPEAKING FOR AMERICANS WHO WOULD LIKE TO WALK IN HIS SHOES
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SPOUTING OFF ON ISSUES THAT NO ONE ELSE HAS THE GUTS TO TALK ABOUT
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GunStar1
  Posted: Jun 2 2007, 06:57 PM


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Viva La Revolucion!









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Posted: Jun 2 2007, 07:36 PM


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alive and still talking
Posted: Jun 2 2007, 09:32 PM


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QUOTE
Viva La Revolucion!
NO SHIT !

just found out that mtv movie awards will be airing at the same time as the
DEMOCRATIC DEBATE, IM BEYOND PISSED, now I know why people used to
hate the jews. [they control our television programming]

if you MUST WATCH THE MOVIE AWARDS, at least RECORD the democratic debate

WONDER WHAT TV LAND JEWS have planned for the NEXT democratic debate

OK, somebody get the O'Rielly add off the bottom of our site, what are they trying
to do ? wake everybody up?
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FemaFunCamp
Posted: Jun 3 2007, 12:00 AM


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:lol:
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alive and still talking
Posted: Jun 4 2007, 10:32 PM


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THAT'S THE WHOLE IDEA, LAUGHTER. Im going to have a blast watching this guy insult other politicians,AND THEN REPORT ON IT. a break from" politics as usual "is a good thing. WITHOUT GRAVEL the election process would be boring at best

E-MAIL PELOSI'S WEB ADDRESS TO INTERNATIONAL FRIENDS

post e-mail address of house speaker pelosi on web and campus, maybe when she gets the message from the entire world, she will be prompted to introduce tje article to impeach, take action to stop the war, also. article to impeach has already filed, she said it will not be brought to the floor of the house until she is certain that there are enough votes to pass it.


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go get'em MIKE
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alive and still talking
Posted: Jun 8 2007, 11:50 AM


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SCRAPPY MIKE ATTACKS OBAMA--TAKES DULL OUT OF DEBATE


Mike Gravel is Howard Beale

I watched the debate last night and have a couple of thoughts, starting with the obvious fact that Mike Gravel is the Howard Beale of the race -- mad as hell and not going to take it anymore. At one point I feared he might bite someone.

(By the way, there was a no-props rule, and when Kucinich brought out the Constitution that probably should have been punished with an immediate trapdooring into the pool of sharks.)

The winner: Edwards. Everyone else seemed a bit nervous. Edwards is trial-lawyer cool. And what a haircut! (I need to make the rounds to see what the buzz is, but fyi, I watched the debate with several savvy Washington insider-types and we all thought Edwards did quite well.)

Gravel livened up what was otherwise an oddly dull 90 minutes -- so many of the candidates either playing it safe (Clinton, Obama) or just unable, under the bang-bang keep-moving format, to strut their stuff (Dodd, Richardson). Biden's one-word answer to the question on his verbosity was so perfect you'd have thought he and Brian Williams had planned it out in advance. Obama wasn't well-miked and sounded as though he were speaking from inside a box (a shame since he has the world-class baritone). Hillary didn't know where to look -- at times she seemed to be searching desperately for her talking point. And Kucinich has to worry that Gravel stole his thunder-on-the-left.

[Update: Joe Klein also went with the Beale comparison. So did Ken Rudin of NPR (whenever I try to link, though, my computer explodes). So much for my brilliant insight.]

[More reaction:

John Dickerson at Slate has a nice kicker about Gravel:

'When the candidates were asked who owned a gun, Gravel was one of those who raised his hand. "I was worried that he meant he had one with him at the moment," said a senior adviser to a top candidate.'


Byron York at National Review says the Dems were insufficiently martial.

Here's an interesting comment by Scarecrow at Firedoglake:

'I'm generally distrustful of most presidential candidates. Almost by definition, they seem to have more ambition to win the presidency than they have wisdom to be president. I also have this quaint belief that people who are genuine leaders reveal their leadership qualities over time by how they go about doing what they do. They don't announce they're "leaders" or apply to be "leaders," and running a campaign to convince people to vote for you is not a good way to prove you're a leader. Instead, genuine leaders prove themselves by how they perform day in, day out.'

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Perhaps the liveliest moment in the debate came near the end when Obama, Kucinich and Gravel mixed it up. Here's part of the transcript from the Federal Document Clearing House:

KUCINICH: My good friend, Senator Obama, that's a very provocative statement. You previously said that all options

are on the table with respect to Iran.

And I think that it's important for people to reflect on the real meaning of that, that you're setting the stage for another war.

I think it's important that we move away from global warming and global warring. And the connection is oil. We're in Iraq for oil. We're looking at attacking Iran for oil.

And until we change our international policies, which quit using war as an instrument of policy...

MODERATOR: Time.

KUCINICH: ... and change our energy policies...

MODERATOR: Time.

KUCINICH: ... we will continue to repeat this sorry cycle.

MODERATOR: Congressman, thank you. Time has expired.

Senator Obama, 30.

OBAMA: I just got some time and I wanted to respond to this.

I think it would be a profound mistake for us to initiate a war with Iran.

OBAMA: But, have no doubt, Iran possessing nuclear weapons will be a major threat to us and to the region.

KUCINICH: (OFF-MIKE)

OBAMA: I understand that, but they're in the process of developing it. And I don't think that's disputed by any expert.

They are the largest state sponsor of terrorism...

KUCINICH: It is disputed by...

OBAMA: ... Hezbollah and Hamas.

KUCINICH: It is disputed.

OBAMA: And there is no contradiction, Dennis, between...

KUCINICH: It is disputed.

OBAMA: Let me finish.

There is no contradiction between us taking seriously the need, as you do, to want to strengthen our alliances around the world -- but I think it is important for us to also recognize that if we have nuclear proliferators around the world that potentially can place a nuclear weapon into the hands of terrorists, that is a profound security threat for America and one that we have to take seriously.

MODERATOR: Way, way over on time.

Senator Gravel, 30 seconds, please.

GRAVEL: No, with respect to Iran, we've sanctioned them for 26 years. We scared the bejesus out of them when the president says, "They're evil."

GRAVEL: Well, you know something? These things don't work. They don't work. We need to recognize them.

And you know something? Who is the greatest violator of the non- proliferation treaty? The United States of America. We signed a pledge that we would begin to disarm, and we're not doing it. We're expanding our nukes.

Who the hell are we going to nuke? Tell me, Barak. Barak, who do you want to nuke?

OBAMA: I'm not planning to nuke anybody right now, Mike, I promise.

(LAUGHTER)

GRAVEL: Good. Good. We're safe then, for a while.
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Posted: Jun 15 2007, 01:39 PM


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hahahahahaahhahaah Oh my god...your joking.

Democrats please save me.. The media told me the democrats hated Bush....I hate Bush too...

Please save me...Please I want gun control, I love amnesty, I love globalism, GLOBAL WARMING is detroying the planet, Help me...please....I can't do anything by myself...Government is God...do everything for me...I have no personal responsibility...it's the governments job to fix every problem I can ever have..

I have a hang-nail... Can you authorize legislation Queen Hillary for me to pull it off myself..

The revolution??? From Gravel...From Dodd...From Obama...From Hillary....HA!!!

You two wouldn't know a revolution if it was happening in front of your damn face.


THE DEMOCRATS WILL NEVER SAVE YOU!!!! GET A GODDAMN CLUE!!!!

The democrats are here to nuetralize people that want real change, because they trick you into thinking that becasue they are "against Bush" that they are the good guys. The globalists are putting everything bad on Bush..so when a Dem gets in, the rug gets pulled out from under you clueless morons (you are...sorry) that supported these people.

Stop being CONNED!!!!
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Posted: Jun 15 2007, 02:55 PM


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:lol: :lol: :lol:
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alive and still talking
Posted: Jun 15 2007, 08:39 PM


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love it
we need more "gravel" in our lives, please donate to keep this guy talking.
laughter is the best medicine. want to embarass the democrats some more?
keep gravel in the debates. send your donation
next debate is in S.C. in JULY.

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hahahahahaahhahaah Oh my god...your joking.

Democrats please save me.. The media told me the democrats hated Bush....I hate Bush too...

Please save me...Please I want gun control, I love amnesty, I love globalism, GLOBAL WARMING is detroying the planet, Help me...please....I can't do anything by myself...Government is God...do everything for me...I have no personal responsibility...it's the governments job to fix every problem I can ever have..

I have a hang-nail... Can you authorize legislation Queen Hillary for me to pull it off myself..

The revolution??? From Gravel...From Dodd...From Obama...From Hillary....HA!!!

You two wouldn't know a revolution if it was happening in front of your damn face.


THE DEMOCRATS WILL NEVER SAVE YOU!!!! GET A GODDAMN CLUE!!!!

The democrats are here to nuetralize people that want real change, because they trick you into thinking that becasue they are "against Bush" that they are the good guys. The globalists are putting everything bad on Bush..so when a Dem gets in, the rug gets pulled out from under you clueless morons (you are...sorry) that supported these people.

Stop being CONNED!!!!


thank you for your gifted response :P
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Gunstar 1
Posted: Jun 16 2007, 02:47 PM


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Howz this 'Gravel' dude going?


Is there a realistic chance that he'll win the Democratic position, thus have a run at the Presidency, against the Neo-Con candidate, whoever that'll be???


*** I'm asking as an international ***


Cheers :D


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Posted: Jun 17 2007, 06:22 PM


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HAHA that Gravel guy is funny.... do any of you want him to actually win, or are you just watching him because of the laughs?
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alive and still talking
Posted: Jun 17 2007, 09:57 PM


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HE'S TOO ELDERLY, but you know that everything he says is the truth, other party members on both sides DON'T WANT TO HEAR IT, they don't want to address issues brought ulp by him because their anwers will never be good enough.
RON PAUL has similar thinking, but he has little chance to win on the republican ticket, he needs to cross over.

I'm trying to tell people to send him money, since keeping him in the debates serves to open the minds of people and helps voters take a better look at the candidates.

WHEN MIKE GRAVEL GIVES HIS VOTE TO A CANDIDATE, TAKE NOTICE

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