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 Flight 77 Maneuver/hanjour Flying Skills Debunked!, claims Screww Loose Change. Is it true?
NK-44
Posted: Jun 6 2007, 09:37 AM


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QUOTE (alive and still talking @ Jun 1 2007, 01:44 AM)
you dont need to know how to fly to highjack a plane, those things fly themselves
besides, some of the names released were part of a cover story anyway

i didn't know that planes fly for themselves without being on autopilot.

maybe you can explain to us how this would be possible.



and, actually, ALL names released were part of a cover story, including Hani Hanjour. ;)
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Posted: Jun 6 2007, 10:06 AM


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QUOTE (UKperspective @ Jun 5 2007, 09:21 PM)
QUOTE (NK-44 @ Feb 8 2007, 06:57 AM)
According to a footnote in the 9/11 Commission Report, some time in August 2001 Hanjour successfully conducts “a challenging certification flight supervised by an instructor at Congressional Air Charters of Gaithersburg, Maryland, landing at a small airport with a difficult approach.” The instructor thinks that “Hanjour may have had training from a military pilot because he used a terrain recognition system for navigation.” 9/11 Commission, 7/24/2004, pp. 248 and 531

Cooperative Research states that
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"besides the 9/11 Commission Report, no other evidence exists of Hanjour passing this certification flight. A search of the Lexis Nexus database indicates there are no mentions of Hanjour attending this school, or any witnesses recalling him there." Source


According to the 'Chronology of Events for Hijackers, 8/16/01 - 9/11/01, Hani Hanjour' from the Moussaoui-Trial, Hanjour took this lesson on the 20th of August at 15.00h and paid in cash.

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A man who answered the phone at Congressional Air Charters  of Gaithersburg declined to give his name and said the company no longer gives flight instruction. On July 20, 2001, Hanjour - likely accompanied by Nawaf al-Hazmi, another member of the Flight 77 team - completed a 'challenging certification flight' supervised by an instructor from Congressional, according to the report of the 9/11 Commission. Source


The Commission-Report's statement contradicts all others. And as we've seen there's no evidence that this certification flight ever happened. The Commission-report quotes an anonymous instructor who thinks that Hanjour had "training from a military pilot". As there's no way that Hanjour could improve his skills in a few days more than in five years before, there are only two possibilities: this story is complete fraud, or it is true but then the instructor is obviously not talking about the same Hanjour.

You missed one possiblility here.

Maybe another man with military flying skills and a similar appearence took this test in his name to help him become properly certified. When you mention that another man accompanied him on this flight, how about if the companion was actually Hanjour and the pilot was in reality a simpathetic military trained friend who wanted to help him out?
After all this challenge is far more severe than anything he has achived previously according to your information.

what you say is a possibility which should be considered.

i actually did so when i wrote:
"but then the instructor is obviously not talking about the same Hanjour."

so i already took into account that the pilot was someone who pretended to be Hanjour.

but you're right, it could be that the real Hanjour was there, but that his companion was on the controls.

if so, then it's unlikely (to say better impossible) that his companion was Nawaf AL-Hamzi, like the Commission states. he never received flight-training so was even worse than Hanjour (though according to neighbour accounts Al-Hamzi sometimes played flight simulator games. maybe the US should sue Microsoft for providing terrorist infrastructure... ;) )
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