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Posted by: stopsnitchin Jun 2 2007, 06:43 PM
can someone give me soem info on the Freemason, and like the fucked up illuminati shit they do, becuase near my house their is a huge masonic temple, scottish right cathedral, and a "Masonic Childrens Center" look at teh google maps pic below, and thanks for any info.

EDIT: It should say "Scottish", where it says "Scottis" it was a typo biggrin.gif
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Posted by: phoenixrises Jun 2 2007, 07:35 PM
I find it quite telling how the Free Masons have such an interest in children. I suppose it's their subtle way of telling the world about it. Behind closed doors, some speculate, they have a strong interest in children's genitals and inflicting torture on them. I'm not trying to be crude, but when the Revolution begins, the Free Mason fraternity needs to be targetted for their pedophilia. This, even more so than 9/11, motivates me.

Posted by: Fullmoon Jun 2 2007, 08:15 PM
where is the address?

Posted by: stopsnitchin Jun 2 2007, 09:14 PM
QUOTE (Fullmoon @ Jun 3 2007, 01:15 AM)
where is the address?

i dont know the address, its located in the Lehigh Valley (Pennsyalvania)

Posted by: looking for truth Jun 2 2007, 11:54 PM
If you want to start screwing with the Apron Wearers you better be prepared because they will not go down easily.

I went to masonic hall for a function 2 months ago and i was getting too curious and nosey and I was followed home so I'm warning you they will not just sit there and take it if you screw around with them

They will find out who you because they do have the connections to the police, cable companies etc

They are very real people and repeat, will not take any crap from someone who opposes them.

Posted by: CriticalThinker Jun 3 2007, 03:18 AM
QUOTE (phoenixrises @ Jun 2 2007, 07:35 PM)
I find it quite telling how the Free Masons have such an interest in children. I suppose it's their subtle way of telling the world about it. Behind closed doors, some speculate, they have a strong interest in children's genitals and inflicting torture on them. I'm not trying to be crude, but when the Revolution begins, the Free Mason fraternity needs to be targetted for their pedophilia. This, even more so than 9/11, motivates me.

*BINGO* - "What do we have for him Johny?"

And the masons are the ones that started that "chip your kids" program as well - Wish I could recall the name of the program.

911 Truthers need to learn more about the Secret Societies and THEIR beliefs to better understand the world around them.

Posted by: jondoe83 Jun 3 2007, 03:24 PM
theyre everywhere, very involved in the justice system, cops, lawyers, judges etc. i live right down the street from a blue lodge and used to live directly across from the Masonic Temple which was down the block from the Scottish Rite Temple. here are some links about masons

very thorough site from a pro mason that actually admits they believe that the serpent who led eve to eat from the tree is the real god, also talks about their beliefs in reincarnation, etc, very good site
http://www.mastermason.com/hiramdiscovered/index.html


another good site
http://www.redicecreations.com/connections/more/freemasonrysecretsocieties.html

http://www.considereverything.tv/

movie


the illuminati 2
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=1305743127328322433&q=the+illuminati&hl=en

Posted by: Waxem Jun 3 2007, 03:28 PM
QUOTE (CriticalThinker @ Jun 3 2007, 08:18 AM)

*BINGO* - "What do we have for him Johny?"

And the masons are the ones that started that "chip your kids" program as well - Wish I could recall the name of the program.


you know what, i suspect the tests for this kind of chipping came from animal/pet chips.
id love to be a fly on the wall at a freemasons meet.

Posted by: Christians for 9/11 Truth Jun 3 2007, 04:28 PM
check out riddles in stone

Posted by: phoenixrises Jun 3 2007, 04:50 PM
Well, if their philosophy involves the kidnapping and torture of kids (under 10, mind you) then THEY don't know who they are fucking with. Because if that's the case, then it means that they actually KNOW that they are evil, rather than simply misguided.
And there are still more of us than there are of them. The difficult thing is that most people are too brainwashed to consider the notion. The Masons are enjoying their priviledges BECAUSE of people's unwillingness to entertain the idea of "outrageous conspiracy theories". They don't see what's in front of their own faces because they're too involved with shopping and American Idol.

In a very real sense, this is for the Children.

Posted by: George Hayduke Jun 3 2007, 05:56 PM
First, there are varying degrees of masons.

Each degree represents a bone of the spine, with the first degree being the spinal bone that's the tail bone.

Most Masons, and this includes the folks in your neighborhood are first, second or third degree masons. So they get sat on and are there to cordinate the movement of the legs of the body.

There are 33 degrees, 32 spinal bones and the skull.

There are usually only a handful of 32-degree Masons alive on the planet at any given time. These cats would be represented by the highest spinal column bone below the skull.

Masons identify with the serpent, with Satan, because he held that with the right amount of the right kind of knowledge you can be "god" and do godly things.

The type of knowledge they are digging is Esoteric. It is ancient, dates back to Sumer and the pyramids and is knowledge into what we would call magic or paranormal. Now remember that your rank and file Masons really know nothing and suit up just to be on the side of the winners and close to real power. Once you get higher on up then you start to know things. They say Blair is a 32nd degree Mason and is a professional liar.

There's a lot to it. You can come across some stellar youtube movies on masonry if you search. If there is anything I think it's super important to know it would be how big the masonic organization is. There's probably a couple million masons the world over. The bulk are worms and foot soldiers.

Oh, and you can bet that the 33rd-degree mason is full-blooded Annunuki. The 32nd degree are probably Nephilim of the caliber of Gilgamesh (There's a reason why our world leaders don't seem human). Lost? Get busy.

Btw, a prolific writer on the Masons was 32nd degree Manly P. Hall, whose most important piece was "The Secret Teachings of All Ages" (600+ pages). Mostly good Masonic PR mixed with Esoteric info. Pull out your decoder ring, is my advice. They tell you everything you need to know but in a way that only a few folks can figure it out.

Here's something for you to wrap your head around.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZJIx6QwUN9I

Posted by: stopsnitchin Jun 3 2007, 06:07 PM
QUOTE (George Hayduke @ Jun 3 2007, 10:56 PM)
First, there are varying degrees of masons.

Each degree represents a bone of the spine, with the first degree being the spinal bone that's the tail bone.

Most Masons, and this includes the folks in your neighborhood are first, second or third degree masons. So they get sat on and are there to cordinate the movement of the legs of the body.

There are 33 degrees, 32 spinal bones and the skull.

There are usually only a handful of 32-degree Masons alive on the planet at any given time. These cats would be represented by the highest spinal column bone below the skull.

Masons identify with the serpent, with Satan, because he held that with the right amount of the right kind of knowledge you can be "god" and do godly things.

The type of knowledge they are digging is Esoteric. It is ancient, dates back to Sumer and the pyramids and is knowledge into what we would call magic or paranormal. Now remember that your rank and file Masons really know nothing and suit up just to be on the side of the winners and close to real power. Once you get higher on up then you start to know things. They say Blair is a 32nd degree Mason and is a professional liar.

There's a lot to it. You can come across some stellar youtube movies on masonry if you search. If there is anything I think it's super important to know it would be how big the masonic organization is. There's probably a couple million masons the world over. The bulk are worms and foot soldiers.

Oh, and you can bet that the 33rd-degree mason is full-blooded Annunuki. The 32nd degree are probably Nephilim of the caliber of Gilgamesh (There's a reason why our world leaders don't seem human). Lost? Get busy.

Btw, a prolific writer on the Masons was 32nd degree Manly P. Hall, whose most important piece was "The Secret Teachings of All Ages" (600+ pages). Mostly good Masonic PR mixed with Esoteric info. Pull out your decoder ring, is my advice. They tell you everything you need to know but in a way that only a few folks can figure it out.

Here's something for you to wrap your head around.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZJIx6QwUN9I

in the front of the Scottish Right place, and on a stone slab infron of the temple is the number 32, would that be for 32 degree freemasons ???

Posted by: jondoe83 Jun 3 2007, 07:47 PM
QUOTE (George Hayduke @ Jun 3 2007, 10:56 PM)
First, there are varying degrees of masons.

Each degree represents a bone of the spine, with the first degree being the spinal bone that's the tail bone.

Most Masons, and this includes the folks in your neighborhood are first, second or third degree masons. So they get sat on and are there to cordinate the movement of the legs of the body.

There are 33 degrees, 32 spinal bones and the skull.

There are usually only a handful of 32-degree Masons alive on the planet at any given time. These cats would be represented by the highest spinal column bone below the skull.

Masons identify with the serpent, with Satan, because he held that with the right amount of the right kind of knowledge you can be "god" and do godly things.

The type of knowledge they are digging is Esoteric. It is ancient, dates back to Sumer and the pyramids and is knowledge into what we would call magic or paranormal. Now remember that your rank and file Masons really know nothing and suit up just to be on the side of the winners and close to real power. Once you get higher on up then you start to know things. They say Blair is a 32nd degree Mason and is a professional liar.

There's a lot to it. You can come across some stellar youtube movies on masonry if you search. If there is anything I think it's super important to know it would be how big the masonic organization is. There's probably a couple million masons the world over. The bulk are worms and foot soldiers.

Oh, and you can bet that the 33rd-degree mason is full-blooded Annunuki. The 32nd degree are probably Nephilim of the caliber of Gilgamesh (There's a reason why our world leaders don't seem human). Lost? Get busy.

Btw, a prolific writer on the Masons was 32nd degree Manly P. Hall, whose most important piece was "The Secret Teachings of All Ages" (600+ pages). Mostly good Masonic PR mixed with Esoteric info. Pull out your decoder ring, is my advice. They tell you everything you need to know but in a way that only a few folks can figure it out.

Here's something for you to wrap your head around.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZJIx6QwUN9I

id have to disagree with the statement that there are only a handful that make it to 32degrees, sure most dont make it past 3degrees but i live in a city of 100,000 and on their local website it lists several high rankin masons in our little area alone.

http://www.freemasonry-siouxland.org/Scottish_Rite/croix.html

Posted by: It's Me Jun 3 2007, 09:37 PM
QUOTE (George Hayduke @ Jun 3 2007, 05:56 PM)

Masons identify with the serpent, with Satan, because he held that with the right amount of the right kind of knowledge you can be "god" and do godly things.

The chessboard is black and white for a reason....you should not be afraid of snakes.....


"Who art thou?" demands the Adam.

"I," the serpent answers, "am Satan who was stoned; I am the Advesary - the Lord who is against you, the one who pleads for your destruction before the Eternal Tribunal. I was your enemy upon the day that you were formed; I have led you into temptation; I have delivered you into the hands of evil; I have maligned you; I have striven ever to achieve your undoing. I am the guardian of the Tree of Knowledge and I have sworn that none whom I can lead astray shall partake of its fruits."

The Adam replies: "For uncounted ages have I been thy servant. In my ignorance I listened to thy words and they led me into paths of sorrow. Thou hast placed in my mind the dreams of power, when I struggled to realize those dreams they brought me naught but pain. Thou hast sowed me in the seeds of desire, and when I lusted after the things of the flesh agony was my only recompense. Thou hast sent me false prophets and false reasoning, and when I strove to grasp the magnitude of Truth I found thy laws were false and only dismay rewarded my strivings. I am done with thee forever, O artful Spirit! I have tired of thy world of illusions. No longer will I labor in thy vineyards of iniquity. Get thee behind me, tempter, and the host of thy temptations. There is no happiness, no peace, no good, no future in the doctrines of selfishness, hate, and passion preached by thee. All these things do I cast aside. Renounced is thy rule forever!"

And the serpent makes answer: "Behold, O Adam, the nature of thy Adversary!" The serpent disappears in a blinding sunburst of radiance and in its place stands an angel resplendent in shining, golden garments with great scarlet wings that spread from one corner of the heavens to the other. Dismayed and awestruck, the Adam falls before the divine creature.

"I am the Lord who is against thee and thus accomplishes thy salvation," continues the voice. "Thou hast hated me, but through the ages yet to be thou shalt bless me, for I have led thee out of the sphere of the Demiurgus; I have turned thee against the illusion of worldliness; I have weaned thee of desire; I have awakened in thy soul the immortality of which I myself partake. Follow me, O Adam, for I am the Way, the Life, and the Truth!"


Posted by: George Hayduke Jun 3 2007, 10:23 PM
QUOTE (stopsnitchin @ Jun 3 2007, 11:07 PM)
in the front of the Scottish Right place, and on a stone slab infron of the temple is the number 32, would that be for 32 degree freemasons ???

Maybe. I wouldn't rule it out. They are all about numbers.

Let's look at the emblem of the Order of the Skull and Bones, a New England chapter of the Bavarian Illuminati, est'd 1776.

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The deal is most of them don't even know what a fraction of the symbols represent. You know more than the average mason about most things. Difference between you and him is he's been initiated, which means put through something he regrets and so will be silent and play along so nobody ever brings it up again.

The 32nd degree Masons are like giants among men. They know no national boundaries.

As for the proliferation of these guys, meaning that increasing numbers of them, historically unprecedented numbers of them is possible and jibes with some of my other findings on this subject.

Bottom line is you don't get out of the lower ranks, specifically the bottom three ranks, unless you have blood on your side. The upper ranks are all about genetics.

There's no reason to be intimidated by these guys either. Yes they're powerful. But from the first to the 30th degree we're talking about people who basically are the beneficiaries of the innate abilities of the top three tiers. Those guys don't get their abilities from college classes and working out, if you dig.

Finally, these guys are as Satanic as the day is long. Wanna know where all the little kids who end up on the back of milk cartons end up? Trust me you don't. The top tiers of these guys are into ritual black magic.

QUOTE
The chessboard is black and white for a reason....you should not be afraid of snakes


Okay but the big thing to realize is that black magic, which is what the knowledge the serpent has empowers one with, ultimately is considered petty magic. It amounts to glorified slight of hand shit on an astronomical level. It's sort of hard to explain. The way I see it there is only one type of magic that matters and many forms of lesser or petty magic.

What the serpent says is, "I can make you effectively god while at the same time you enjoy the pleasures of the flesh, the pleasures of the worldly existence."

Through proper use of true Esoteric knowledge, one can actually experience god. But it will come at no small sacrifice and will require work.

The difference between effectively and actually experiencing god is enormous in reality. That there is no difference is one of the first lies told that we buy into.

I digress.

Posted by: CriticalThinker Jun 4 2007, 02:32 AM
Good posts -

Yes - they literally eat children. Its a sick twisted part of this:
""Do what thy will, shall be the whole of the Law"

Here is a point that you have to understand with regards to TRUTH and MASONs.

1ST of all -no one even knows "the truth" - Its "unKnowable" - we only know what we've experienced to be true .. then we sprinkle it with Faith & Hope and roster of other byproducts.

The MASONs are bonified masters of DECEIT - They rule with CUNNING DECEIT - with LIES. The art of DECEPTION is the MAGIC itself. The EXOTERIC meanings of the symbols / rutuals and 'comments' are , on they're face, VULGAR (please look this up in wiki) for deceptive means. They HIDE the intent in the symbols/rituals and sayings - These are for the INITIATED - To be understood in the ESOTERIC.

The etymology of the WORD Craft is derived from words which mean TO LIE - TO DECEIVE. Their power resides in their ability to WORD SMITH - To create ILLUSIONS through WORDS. The reality of the power of these 'knights' resides in the peoples naiveness. Without which - they would be mere liars and con artists.

"A nation or world of people, who will not use their intelligence, are no better than animals that do not have intelligence; such people are beasts of burden and steaks
on the table by choice and consent."

Behold a Pale Horse by William Cooper


I've read some pretty stupid things about the Holy Grail. A cup that held the blood of Christ ..la di da ... its all MASONIC BULLSHIT.

The Highest Degreed FreeMasons Holy Grail is this: TO RULE THE WORLD!
THATS THE HOLY GRAIL! And they are feverishly seeking it!

My point is this: What is their magic? ITS BEING A DAMNED GOOD LIAR!

Do you know the symbols? Can you recognize the CODES they send to each other IN MOVIES? In Print? In words? What is the War of the Roses? What is the meaning of the passing of a Red Rose (V for Vendetta style)?

High Degree masons do NOT believe in Satan - they are HUMANISTS - they are HUMANIST EVOLUTIONISTS which believe in the law of the Jungle: only the fittest survive - They want YOU to believe in Satan... that there is a "devil" running around causing all the trouble dry.gif . Their desire is to eventually accomplish these goals:
1) World Gov't
2) Total control over all people
3) Elimination of all ability to self-defense
4) Elimination of the God religions ( Christianity/Judaism/Islam)
5) Elimination of the "inferior" races - They believe in the SUPERRACE of White Anglo orgin

They have PINNED a date on their World Gov't at 2012 - ...they gotta alot of DESTRUCTION to accomplish to get their evil wish.

The Phoenix - Rises out the of the Ashes of ruin - ORDO AB CHAO - Or in Karl Marxian terms: "You can't make an omelet without breakin' a few eggs"


All would do very well to watch these videos:
The Subversive Use of Sacred Symbolism in the Media [Parts 1 through 6]
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=8875751284579583762
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-4306735945697288438
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2233997338138922977
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2392398489053775506
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8629717732608750704
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=219076393586369255

Bill Cooper interviews Jordan Maxwell
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TUUrzZEhY1k

Jordan Maxwell Exposes the Illuminati - 3 HOURS!
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=8394844811105390386


EDIT: I've run into a slue of 'smart mouthed' young 'whipper snappers' since this 911 Truth Movement (and Thank God for this movement!) began. I don't mean young with age - but young with KNOWLEDGE. They discover that "some" of the government isn't what it's purported to be and are at glee with their new found knowledge .. giving them an edge over the average sheeple. But they know VERY LITTLE INDEED! Some of us (and I'm only a sophomore) have been studying these demons for YEARS ... For me - I started studying "demonOlogy" when they Cooked those children at WACO. I'm still YOUNG indeed as their are many many that knew these demons from as far back as 1913! There are lots of great books written from far ago exposing the Masons/De Molay/Rosicrucians/TonsMore.

Stop it with the stupid "democrat/republican" crap - GET A CLUE ! This is a coordinated attack against YOU which has been going on for 100's of years! Be a little more humble and SEEK KNOWLEDGE! And stop trusting people in the LIME light so quickly. *THINK MAN* - How did this individual get into the LIME LIGHT to begin with?


Posted by: mid life crises Jun 4 2007, 06:46 AM
Isn'tt here a scottish rite children's hospital in Atlanta? That's kind of a creepy front.

My uncle was probably a really low level mason and at his funeral these dudes with the apron came out doing some voodoo, but wht really struck me was that htere were alot of little kids in the congregation, crying babies and toddlers acting out. The dudes got REALLY mad at the crying children and yelled at the parents to take them out, whichj shockingly they all did, when in reality no one but the dudes cared. Crying kids and melting down toddlers are a part of family functions and while annoying, I know my uncle would rather have had the kids present than intimidated by the dudes. Really creepy.

Posted by: zyko148 Jun 4 2007, 09:20 AM
Norwegian Order of Freemasonry, just next to "Stortinget"
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Posted by: Roxdog Jun 4 2007, 09:48 AM
Essential reading...

http://www.nwowatcher.com/ebooks/Morals%20And%20Dogma%20-%20By%20Albert%20Pike.pdf

(right click, save as)

Posted by: Waxem Jun 4 2007, 04:36 PM
QUOTE (zyko148 @ Jun 4 2007, 02:20 PM)
Norwegian Order of Freemasonry, just next to "Stortinget"
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i think this is a great idea, more pictures of where they are, gives us a greater understanding of a perticular degree. therefore a way to paralise them.

Posted by: GunStar1 Jun 4 2007, 04:53 PM
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Mason 'info':

http://www.masonicinfo.com/eye.htm



http://www.conspiracyarchive.com/


http://www.conspiracyarchive.com/images/


http://www.whale.to/b/symbols_h.html


http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/False%20Religions/Wicca%20&%20Witchcraft/bohemian_grove_exposed.htm




This rocks right here man.... heaps of images / symbols!!!....

http://thebiggestsecretpict.online.fr/nwo.htm



http://z10.invisionfree.com/Loose_Change_Forum/index.php?showtopic=9855





REFUSE AND RESIST!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: Waxem Jun 4 2007, 04:55 PM
QUOTE (GunStar1 @ Jun 4 2007, 09:53 PM)
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Mason 'info':

http://www.masonicinfo.com/eye.htm



http://www.conspiracyarchive.com/


http://www.conspiracyarchive.com/images/


http://www.whale.to/b/symbols_h.html


http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/False%20Religions/Wicca%20&%20Witchcraft/bohemian_grove_exposed.htm




This rocks right here man.... heaps of images / symbols!!!....

http://thebiggestsecretpict.online.fr/nwo.htm



http://z10.invisionfree.com/Loose_Change_Forum/index.php?showtopic=9855





REFUSE AND RESIST!!!!!!!!!

they certainly took the sun sign there eh, too literally...

Posted by: GunStar1 Jun 4 2007, 04:59 PM
Waxem...


Re: This...

http://www.owos.info/id_card_free_zone.php

^^^^
Your link....



See this...


In Australia, it's already in the mainstream.......


http://www.google.com.au/search?hl=en&q=Na...=cr%3DcountryAU



Yes, we worry!



GunStar1

Posted by: CriticalThinker Jun 4 2007, 05:05 PM
High School - Shaped like a gun
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-4620362334534769635&q=gun&pl=true

http://maps.google.com/maps?q=http://bbs.keyhole.com/ubb/download.php?Number=132539&t=k&om=1

US Naval Base
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=biq2H8geWEo

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Posted by: GunStar1 Jun 4 2007, 05:08 PM
Corrected link....



See this for Australian National ID Card Debate (refine the search if you wish).....



http://www.google.com.au/search?hl=en&q=National+ID+Card+Debate&btnG=Google+Search&meta=cr%3DcountryAU

Posted by: Waxem Jun 4 2007, 05:11 PM
dude this link dont work for me,
http://www.google.com.au/search?hl=en&q=Na...=cr%3DcountryAU

gun your in the US im in the UK, id like to think i know whats going on politically, but if theres something else i should know let me hear it.
im about to educate around 300 parents of children that go to the same school as my own, as to whats iminent. children being tought to lie to their parents, covert information gathering, by my own government, against the rights of my children and my family as a hole.

Posted by: GunStar1 Jun 4 2007, 05:12 PM
Sawastika Shaped Buildings at Coronado Naval Base

[Editor's Note: This item was forwarded by Mary-Sue Haliburton. Dave van Kleist posted this photo on July 13, 2006. Discovering that NASA, or that the U.S. Army, Air Force, or Navy are up to their eyeballs in New World Order activities is not new information if you're privy to the NWO plot and have already read the script. Al Bielek mentions the heavy overlay of German/Nazi participation is all phases of the takeover/betrayal agenda being managed by our government overlords. Richard Hoagland mentioned on Art Bell's radio show a few years ago the incredible amount of NWO/Nazi symbolism employed by NASA on their badges and equipment used on the Mars Explorer missions. They now have weather control technology down to such a fine art that they can create a perfectly symmetrical pentagram cloud formation filling the entire eye of a HAARP manufactured "hurricane" . Remember, The more you know, the more you control. Security trails in the wake of knowledge. ...Ken Adachi]

http://educate-yourself.org/lte/naziswastikacornonadonaval20jul06.shtml
Juy 20, 2006

Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2006 16:45:47 -0400
From: Mary-Sue <bihal_sm007@rogers.com>

Coronado Naval Swastika buildings**********Anyone care to comment as to why the United States Navy would construct a building complex so that it would appear from above as a swastika?**********

As with the mysterious symbols carved onto the land in south America, and so vast that their shape is not perceived except from aircraft, this swastika cannot be seen from the ground. I came across this at: http://www.thepowerhour.com/press_release/press19.htm

No, it's not a crazy conspiracy theory. It's a real building easily seen from space. The facts can be confirmed by looking at Google Maps (<http://maps.google.com/>), entering the location (Coronado Naval Base near San Diego, California) and clicking on either Satellite or Hybrid in the upper right corner to display the image as captured by cameras in orbit.

I doubt that any architect would design such a complex in a totally unconscious state of mind, nor would the design be approved by people not noticing the controversial symbol. One must conclude that they were acting intentionally. Who was meant to know about this? Just the air force?

It would be interesting to find out when this building was constructed, and who designed it. Was there was a design competition for the project? It would be interesting to be a fly on the wall and hear the discussion leading to the selection of this design. Or was it a case of ordering the design to be done that way from the beginning? And perhaps more significantly, how high up the chain of command did the approval process take these architectural plans?

So why would the US military include a big swastika in naval base layout? Since Canadian troops are now under US command in Afghanistan, seeking answers to the question of whether there is Nazi influence in their armed forces command is highly relevant to Canadians.

Previous generations opposed Naziism, and every November 11th we still hold remembrance services to honour those who died to defeat it. If as this swastika naval base building implies there is Nazi influence in the American forces, shouldn't we pull Canadian soldiers out of Northcom?

Mary-Sue Haliburton
Ottawa West - Nepean



Source:

http://www.whale.to/b/sawastika.html

Posted by: GunStar1 Jun 4 2007, 05:14 PM
I corrected it man....


Try this and let me know if it works.



http://www.google.com.au/search?hl=en&q=National+ID+Card+Debate&btnG=Google+Search&meta=cr%3DcountryAU

Posted by: Waxem Jun 4 2007, 05:17 PM
in hear yah fella, but like i said is it not a "sun" symbol?

Posted by: Waxem Jun 4 2007, 05:18 PM
QUOTE (GunStar1 @ Jun 4 2007, 10:14 PM)
I corrected it man....


Try this and let me know if it works.



http://www.google.com.au/search?hl=en&q=National+ID+Card+Debate&btnG=Google+Search&meta=cr%3DcountryAU

took me too a google pg, top was an abc report.

Posted by: GunStar1 Jun 4 2007, 05:45 PM
"Any government that wants to issue a unique identification number to most of the population and then to compile and link information about them using increasingly powerful technology bears a heavy onus to justify its case. ...
'Nothing to hide, nothing to fear', directed at each member of the public, should be turned around and directed at government as: 'No legitimate reason to know, no legitimate reason to ask'."

- Paul Chadwick, Victorian Privacy Commissioner, The Value of Privacy, 23 May 2006.


http://www.efa.org.au/Issues/Privacy/accesscard.html




e.g.s.....

Senator scuttles 'Orwellian' national ID card...

http://www.computerworld.com.au/index.php/id;1576033524;fp;16;fpid;0




http://www.privacy.org.au/Campaigns/ID_cards/NatIDScheme.html


http://www.zdnet.com.au/news/security/soa/Security-experts-slam-Australia-Card-2-idea/0,130061744,139233215,00.htm


http://www.anu.edu.au/people/Roger.Clarke/DV/OzCard.html


http://www.privacy.org.au/Campaigns/ID_cards/Resources.html


http://www.uow.edu.au/arts/sts/research/surveillance/Schweik.html


http://www.privacy.org.au/About/Formation.html


http://www.abc.net.au/stateline/qld/content/2004/s1165710.htm


http://www.theage.com.au/news/National/Govt-rules-out-national-ID-card-scheme/2005/07/12/1120934230285.html


http://www.privacy.org.au/Campaigns/ID_cards/HSAC.html




Well, if these still did not work, I give up! U get the idea. Sniff around more for yourself if you are curious.



^^^^^
Random shit


National DNA Database is another issue, although less 'hot' I guess. I can't be bothered sniffing around for this now.





CHEERS.



GS1

Posted by: Waxem Jun 4 2007, 05:59 PM
QUOTE (GunStar1 @ Jun 4 2007, 10:45 PM)
"Any government that wants to issue a unique identification number to most of the population and then to compile and link information about them using increasingly powerful technology bears a heavy onus to justify its case. ...
'Nothing to hide, nothing to fear', directed at each member of the public, should be turned around and directed at government as: 'No legitimate reason to know, no legitimate reason to ask'."


like i said i know man, im on it, there is no way this will slip by as far as im concerned.

the more i know about my foe, the more prepared i am for his arrival on the battlefield,
in this lays the hole gammet of elite power.

Posted by: stopsnitchin Jun 4 2007, 08:02 PM
heres a google maps link to the temple, look at the park accross the street... the design looks kinda creepy

http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&q=Masonic+Temple+Allentown&ie=UTF8&ll=40.599315,-75.490462&spn=0.001841,0.003616&t=k&z=18&om=1

Posted by: MtnKnght Jun 5 2007, 02:53 PM
i got my Google Earth last week. so i probably am being monitored as we speak. stand back a bit so the beam weapon doesnt burn you. ok then.. i have found a ton of freemason architecture within most of the major cities from above.not the newer stuff so much but older cities,Paris..Tel Aviv..Berlin..Stokholm..Rome..Athens. its incredible that anyone could imagine they truly have power when the BASE of everything is built by others.

Posted by: stopsnitchin Jun 5 2007, 05:36 PM
check this out

QUOTE
The image below is taken from 'The New Age' magazine which was the official publication of the Supreme Council of the 33rd Degree of Freemasonry, the most powerful Masonic organization in the America if not the world. It is now called the 'Scottish Rite Journal'. It is from April 1960 and it clearly states that the $1 note is covered in Masonic symbols and it also states "Pyramid with the Masonic All Seeing Eye"


user posted image

http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/Evils%20in%20Government/Federal%20Reserve%20Scam/satan_on_our_dollar.htm

Posted by: Waxem Jun 5 2007, 05:43 PM
e pluribus unum

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/E_pluribus_unum

heres a wierd thing, gene wilder says this very phrase in "charlie and the chocolate factory"

Posted by: onehourbytheconcretelake Jun 5 2007, 08:11 PM
QUOTE (MtnKnght @ Jun 5 2007, 07:53 PM)
i got my Google Earth last week. so i probably am being monitored as we speak. stand back a bit so the beam weapon doesnt burn you. ok then.. i have found a ton of freemason architecture within most of the major cities from above.not the newer stuff so much but older cities,Paris..Tel Aviv..Berlin..Stokholm..Rome..Athens. its incredible that anyone could imagine they truly have power when the BASE of everything is built by others.

can you give specific examples of masonic architecture in those cities you listed?

Posted by: jondoe83 Jun 6 2007, 12:36 AM
QUOTE (onehourbytheconcretelake @ Jun 6 2007, 01:11 AM)
QUOTE (MtnKnght @ Jun 5 2007, 07:53 PM)
i got my Google Earth last week. so i probably am being monitored as we speak. stand back a bit so the beam weapon doesnt burn you.  ok then.. i have found a ton of freemason architecture within most of the major cities from above.not the newer stuff so much but older cities,Paris..Tel Aviv..Berlin..Stokholm..Rome..Athens.  its incredible that anyone could imagine they truly have power when the BASE of everything is built by others.

can you give specific examples of masonic architecture in those cities you listed?


freemason monument in israel

http://www.neaiga.org/PicMasonic%20AlterIsrael.jpg

pyramid with eye in on the israel supreme court building

http://www.planetquo.com/Illuminati-Design-And-Symbolism-In-The-Israeli-Supreme-Court-Building


Posted by: CriticalThinker Jun 6 2007, 04:00 AM
QUOTE (jondoe83 @ Jun 6 2007, 12:36 AM)
QUOTE (onehourbytheconcretelake @ Jun 6 2007, 01:11 AM)
QUOTE (MtnKnght @ Jun 5 2007, 07:53 PM)
i got my Google Earth last week. so i probably am being monitored as we speak. stand back a bit so the beam weapon doesnt burn you.  ok then.. i have found a ton of freemason architecture within most of the major cities from above.not the newer stuff so much but older cities,Paris..Tel Aviv..Berlin..Stokholm..Rome..Athens.  its incredible that anyone could imagine they truly have power when the BASE of everything is built by others.

can you give specific examples of masonic architecture in those cities you listed?


freemason monument in israel

http://www.neaiga.org/PicMasonic%20AlterIsrael.jpg

pyramid with eye in on the israel supreme court building

http://www.planetquo.com/Illuminati-Design-And-Symbolism-In-The-Israeli-Supreme-Court-Building

That is one dizguzting picture:
user posted image

What can one say but "it faked" or "where was it taken - how can we prove where"?

I just don't get those that refuse to walk deeper into the POOP FIELD to find the gems of reality - ya know?

Posted by: jondoe83 Jun 6 2007, 09:31 AM
QUOTE (CriticalThinker @ Jun 6 2007, 09:00 AM)
QUOTE (jondoe83 @ Jun 6 2007, 12:36 AM)
QUOTE (onehourbytheconcretelake @ Jun 6 2007, 01:11 AM)
QUOTE (MtnKnght @ Jun 5 2007, 07:53 PM)
i got my Google Earth last week. so i probably am being monitored as we speak. stand back a bit so the beam weapon doesnt burn you.  ok then.. i have found a ton of freemason architecture within most of the major cities from above.not the newer stuff so much but older cities,Paris..Tel Aviv..Berlin..Stokholm..Rome..Athens.  its incredible that anyone could imagine they truly have power when the BASE of everything is built by others.

can you give specific examples of masonic architecture in those cities you listed?


freemason monument in israel

http://www.neaiga.org/PicMasonic%20AlterIsrael.jpg

pyramid with eye in on the israel supreme court building

http://www.planetquo.com/Illuminati-Design-And-Symbolism-In-The-Israeli-Supreme-Court-Building

That is one dizguzting picture:
user posted image

What can one say but "it faked" or "where was it taken - how can we prove where"?

I just don't get those that refuse to walk deeper into the POOP FIELD to find the gems of reality - ya know?

On that 2nd link it shows what is inscribed on that pyramid, but i dont read hebrew, it is located in jerusalem i believe. Masons r everywhere

Posted by: onehourbytheconcretelake Jun 9 2007, 08:46 PM
anyone have anything else related to this?

Posted by: phoenixrises Jun 9 2007, 09:07 PM
QUOTE (CriticalThinker @ Jun 4 2007, 02:32 AM)


Yes - they literally eat children.

Can you explain who originally divulged this information? It's not like one of them is actually going to repent and confess. How do you know that they eat children? I mean, I wouldn't put anything past them (except reformation) but to claim that they eat children, although probable, is making a guess that I'm sure nobody other than insiders can know about.

Posted by: 8bitagent Jun 10 2007, 04:11 AM
Isnt it weird Hitler killed tens of thousands of Freemasons, and went on and on about how "Freemasons and Zionists control the world"...when Hitler would have been a puppet of this very same group if its true? And if its true, they themselves would have merely been puppets of the Illuminati, who controlled Himmler and the occult worshipping SS along with the banks.

Isnt it strange how it was proven the Masonic P2 order in Italy was behind orchestrating massive false flag terrorism with the CIA and Nato(Gladio's Strategy of Tension) and swindling Italy out of billions, as well as orchestrating assassinations...but...
people who talk about "the evil Masons" never even mention this?

Isnt it weird how everyone thinks the compass and square is the Masonic logo,
when the real logo is the double headed eagle with illuminated pyramid and the mantra "Ordo Ab Chao"(or order out of chaos, the 33rd degree)

Btw, where can one get one of those snazzy all seeing eye/skull and bones black 33rd degree aprons the Masons where? smile.gif

Anyways, thankfully most Masons believe in charitable work, helping hospitalized children...even if the top few who worship Jah Bu Lon have consorted some not so nice deeds:)

Posted by: 8bitagent Jun 10 2007, 04:22 AM
QUOTE (George Hayduke @ Jun 4 2007, 03:23 AM)
Finally, these guys are as Satanic as the day is long. Wanna know where all the little kids who end up on the back of milk cartons end up? Trust me you don't. The top tiers of these guys are into ritual black magic.

Those arent masons, those are organized child kidnapping rings who sell off children to high bidder brothels overseas and to satanic cults; most of which are ferried into the
European world of the occult global elite.

Before people laugh, they should look at the mainstream articles from Belgium, Holland, etc. It's not just that Dyncorp and the UN have been caught being involved in child kidnapping, its that these global elites straight out of Eyes Wide Shut are into this sort of sick shit.

But Masons? Maybe some of them, clearly top politicians, judges, etc in Italy, Belgium, and Holland(as well as England) have been involved in this stuff, as well as 1980's era Republican elite in DC.

David Icke explains in perfectly, about different frequencies, colors, etc. It's all about advanced brain washing mind control with these cases.

There's so many countless children abducted on an industrial strength level every year from America to Latin America to Europe to Asia and especially Africa...I dont know why the US government is so upset over "terrorism", when theres this epidemic going on(oh wait, I do know why the US doesnt care)

Let's look at the formation of Washington DC, no question it was created as an unholy conduit for precisely the evil we see coming out of the Pentagon.

Is it any wonder they found children under Benjamin Franklin's mansion, a double agent high ranking Mason who was a top member of the Hellfire Club?

Posted by: 8bitagent Jun 10 2007, 04:34 AM
Critical Thinker mentioned 2012.

2012 is when the Freedom Tower obelisk rises at 1776 tall on the souls of 3000 sacrificial victims

2012 is 11 years AFTER 9/11, the terror attack on the "11" shaped towers using Flight 11 in the ritual on the 11(0) story towers.

11 years before that was Bush Sr's new world order speech to the nation

I dont believe this is a coincidence:

user posted image

nor do I believe this is "NOT" Illuminati/Masonic related:

user posted image

Who "advised" FDR to put this on the back of our money? Could it have been his occult advisers?

The same "Alice Bailey" types that conduit the evil plans to the globalist network behind the UN and one world government agenda?

The REAL Masonic symbol:

user posted image

hmm, where have I seen this before?

user posted image

user posted image

user posted image

(BTW, thats what the real Illuminati most likely looks like)

or the capstone rays of light pyramid:

user posted image

This is a Masonic apron, does this look innocent to ya?

user posted image

Posted by: onehourbytheconcretelake Jun 10 2007, 06:30 PM
how do we know all of this is really true?

Posted by: phoenixrises Jun 10 2007, 08:59 PM
QUOTE (onehourbytheconcretelake @ Jun 10 2007, 06:30 PM)
how do we know all of this is really true?

Because the signs are everywhere. The dots are just sitting there waiting to be connected. It makes more sense to say it's true than to say that it's not. And with thousands of American kids alone each year being abducted (their cases never solved) it becomes too obvious. I personally don't believe that there are thousands of "lone nuts" out there kidnapping kids. 5 or 6 maybe. But not thousands.

Posted by: Headhunter Jun 10 2007, 09:37 PM
Masonichip

http://www.masonichip.org/

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Posted by: CriticalThinker Jun 11 2007, 12:26 AM
QUOTE (Headhunter @ Jun 10 2007, 09:37 PM)
Masonichip

http://www.masonichip.org/

blink.gif

You gotta be f$cking kidding man -

Hey HH - This qualifies as a NEW THREAD - Do that - ...
(or I will if you don't)


Posted by: onehourbytheconcretelake Jun 11 2007, 02:20 PM
QUOTE (phoenixrises @ Jun 11 2007, 01:59 AM)
QUOTE (onehourbytheconcretelake @ Jun 10 2007, 06:30 PM)
how do we know all of this is really true?

Because the signs are everywhere. The dots are just sitting there waiting to be connected. It makes more sense to say it's true than to say that it's not. And with thousands of American kids alone each year being abducted (their cases never solved) it becomes too obvious. I personally don't believe that there are thousands of "lone nuts" out there kidnapping kids. 5 or 6 maybe. But not thousands.

yeah but some signs seem to be speculations. Someone said the landscape architecture of Rome, Greece, etc, were masonic, but how so? I can't find any clear evidence.

How do we know these masons are really worshiping satanic ideals through these monuments, designs, logos, etc? How do we know they aren't just using them because they like how they look for it's simplicity and not because of it's egyptian, greek, or roman myth history?

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