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Posted by: IVXX Jan 7 2008, 09:37 AM
Officials describe incident as a 'significant provocative act'

WASHINGTON - Iranian Revolutionary Guard gunboats harassed three U.S. Navy warships in the Strait of Hormuz Sunday, in what the U.S. military considers a "significant provocative act."

Military officials told NBC News that two U.S. Navy destroyers and one frigate were heading into the Persian Gulf through the international waters of the Strait of Hormuz when five armed "fast boats" of the Iranian Revolutionary Guard approached a high speed, darting in and out of the formation.

At one point a radio message from one of the Iranian boats warned, "You are going to blow up within minutes."

The Navy warships went into defensive mode, radioed the usual warnings to steer clear, and in the end no shots were fired. U.S. military warships believe the Revolutionary Guard boats were "testing our defenses," the officials said.


Whole story at http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/22537199/

Can we say "pretext" boys and girls?? ninja.gif

Posted by: Reggie_perrin Jan 7 2008, 09:45 AM
A gulf of tonkin incident draws ever closer.

"pre-text ?... we don't need no stinking pre-text" - Dick Cheney



Posted by: NWOgre Jan 7 2008, 09:48 AM
What will Bush say? "We had to start a war on Iran because they threatened us with, uhhm..., gunboats - well known as weapons of mass destruction" ?

Posted by: Reggie_perrin Jan 7 2008, 10:07 AM
This story is breaking on sky news now as well, nice coincidence that this happens on the eve of Bush going on a tour of the middle east to discuss "the Iranian threat".

Posted by: Reggie_perrin Jan 7 2008, 10:35 AM
white house has "sternly warned Iran against provocative actions which could lead to a dangerous incident"

Posted by: Reggie_perrin Jan 7 2008, 10:54 AM
flash back-ron paul warns of gulf of tonkin type incident

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WsVbMh5jdCA&feature=related

Posted by: look-up Jan 7 2008, 02:08 PM
QUOTE (Reggie_perrin @ Jan 7 2008, 03:07 PM)
This story is breaking on sky news now as well, nice coincidence that this happens on the eve of Bush going on a tour of the middle east to discuss "the Iranian threat".

yes nice gulf of tonkin-esque incident (potentially) and also very nice for Rudy... I bet he's bumped up a few points in the coming day or so.

Posted by: Reggie_perrin Jan 7 2008, 02:16 PM
QUOTE (look-up @ Jan 7 2008, 07:08 PM)
QUOTE (Reggie_perrin @ Jan 7 2008, 03:07 PM)
This story is breaking on sky news now as well, nice coincidence that this happens on the eve of Bush going on a  tour of the middle east to discuss "the Iranian threat".

yes nice gulf of tonkin-esque incident (potentially) and also very nice for Rudy... I bet he's bumped up a few points in the coming day or so.

Yeh add this to the recent release of the video of that supposed american al qeada guy it's very handy for the pro war candidates, a nice reminder of "the dangerous world we live in".

Posted by: look-up Jan 7 2008, 05:16 PM
QUOTE (Reggie_perrin @ Jan 7 2008, 07:16 PM)
QUOTE (look-up @ Jan 7 2008, 07:08 PM)
QUOTE (Reggie_perrin @ Jan 7 2008, 03:07 PM)
This story is breaking on sky news now as well, nice coincidence that this happens on the eve of Bush going on a  tour of the middle east to discuss "the Iranian threat".

yes nice gulf of tonkin-esque incident (potentially) and also very nice for Rudy... I bet he's bumped up a few points in the coming day or so.

Yeh add this to the recent release of the video of that supposed american al qeada guy it's very handy for the pro war candidates, a nice reminder of "the dangerous world we live in".

could THAT be more evidence that osama died or was murdered? Wouldn't he have been the one that made the video, if he were still alive? If I'm understanding the current stories correctly, this new video is very "current" in the fact that it mentions Bush's visit.

They simply couldn't just use an old Osama video if that were the case. They only use those when they need a generic "death to the USA" message.

Posted by: ihatecreditors Jan 7 2008, 07:39 PM
They know we wont support preemptive war so they now need an event to cause us to go to war. Maybe a false flag? Or two evil people conspiring together.

Posted by: Reggie_perrin Jan 8 2008, 07:53 AM
QUOTE (ihatecreditors @ Jan 8 2008, 12:39 AM)
They know we wont support preemptive war so they now need an event to cause us to go to war. Maybe a false flag? Or two evil people conspiring together.

They need something soon, time is running out on the Bush admin and i doubt they will want to leave office with the legacy of the rise of Iran in the middle east, now doubt a strike on Iran will be high on the agenda when he talks with the Israelis, and you're right they need a pre text, no way will the American people stand for yet another preemptive strike.

Posted by: Reggie_perrin Jan 9 2008, 12:24 PM
Iranian ships in Iranian waters, how fucking dare they ? anyone would think they own it ohmy.gif biggrin.gif

Posted by: Reggie_perrin Jan 10 2008, 11:58 AM
It was just breaking on the BBC new 24 that the voice which reportedly said "we're coming towards you you're going to blow up" didn't come from the Iranian boats after all, this ones getting weirder and weirder, wonder if this was a botched manufactured cassus belli of some kind ?

Posted by: somebody Jan 10 2008, 02:06 PM
QUOTE (Reggie_perrin @ Jan 10 2008, 04:58 PM)
It was just breaking on the BBC new 24 that the voice which reportedly said "we're coming towards you you're going to blow up" didn't come from the Iranian boats after all, this ones getting weirder and weirder, wonder if this was a botched manufactured cassus belli of some kind ?

Weird. Nothing on BBC sites or any other news site about this, you 100 % sure?

Posted by: Reggie_perrin Jan 10 2008, 03:06 PM
QUOTE (somebody @ Jan 10 2008, 07:06 PM)
QUOTE (Reggie_perrin @ Jan 10 2008, 04:58 PM)
It was just breaking on the BBC new 24 that the voice which reportedly said "we're coming towards you you're going to blow up" didn't come from the Iranian boats after all, this ones getting weirder and weirder, wonder if this was a botched manufactured cassus belli of some kind ?

Weird. Nothing on BBC sites or any other news site about this, you 100 % sure?

Yes it was on the bbc news 24 channel, it was breaking news for a few minutes and then they said they'd report more later.

Posted by: Mumin Jan 10 2008, 03:35 PM
QUOTE (Reggie_perrin @ Jan 9 2008, 05:24 PM)
Iranian ships in Iranian waters, how fucking dare they ? anyone would think they own it ohmy.gif biggrin.gif

Good point. Maybe it would be more fitting to say that the U.S. warships were harrassing Iranian speedboats.

Posted by: NWOgre Jan 12 2008, 10:09 AM
QUOTE (Mumin @ Jan 10 2008, 03:35 PM)
QUOTE (Reggie_perrin @ Jan 9 2008, 05:24 PM)
Iranian ships in Iranian waters, how fucking dare they ?  anyone would think they own it  ohmy.gif  biggrin.gif

Good point. Maybe it would be more fitting to say that the U.S. warships were harrassing Iranian speedboats.

Exactly

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