Title: Q: Do We Have The Tower Collapses Figured Out?
Description: seems to me that we do
buddy - April 10, 2007 03:36 PM (GMT)
I watched 9/11 Mysteries again and it seems to me that we have pretty much a complete picture of how WTC 1, 2, and 7 fell. I think it all makes sense, and I am not sure there's really more to it.
The Powers That Be wanted a new pearl harbor. Silverstein was cut in on the deal. His job was to put up the money to buy the WTC complex and allow them to be used in the crime. No one wanted the WTC towers because they had asbestos that needed to be replaced at a very high cost, the cabling and power and ventillation system was outdated and costly to upgrade, and there weren't many tenants in the building. It was a bad business deal for anyone to lease the complex, but it would work well for a publicly-viewed disaster event. Silverstein's job was to facilitate the wiring the building for demolition, controling the building security, and taking on some risk of the operation. His cut was several billion dollars after he gets the insurance payment and possible government assistance.
Silverstein bought the lease and soon after there was a power down which turned surveillance off and allowed workers to wire the building for demolition, yet look like they were upgrading some data wiring or other systems. When a plane hit a tower, the demolition would start. First the supports in the basement would be blown, well before the collapse. Other supports would be blown in turn before the collapse. If the fires weren't raging enough, then they would have to start the collapse, which is why the building's only burned for about an hour. They started the collapse by starting to demolish the floor at or right below the impact of the planes. Then the floors would be progressively blown on down to the very bottom. This caused the floors, outside columns, and core columns to be pulverised, and also cause the "bathtub" at the bottom to be dislodged and broken.
For WTC 7, they brought it down by cracking a few of the support columns on one side first from the bottom, then split-seconds later blew out columns throughout the building, and let gravity do the rest, just like a classic demolition. WTC 7 was probably the control center, so by demolishing the building, you get rid of a lot of evidence about the operation. That's also probably why WTC 7 didn't collapse until 5pm, well after everything had taken place, enough time to clean up loose ends, destroy evidence in the building, get everyone out, and make sure there's nothing left as evidence.
In the end, Silverstein got the towers for cheap, got rid of the asbestos problem, and got a huge return on his investment. The PNAC boys got their pearl harbor. Everybody's happy.
Frankly, I think that's all there is to the WTC collapses. I don't think there are missles, pods, faked videos, space beams, nukes, replacement planes or anything. I think that's it. Is there anything we know that is not consistent with this explanation?
Dollar - April 16, 2007 04:27 PM (GMT)
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| Is there anything we know that is not consistent with this explanation? |
Yes. Since WTC 7 was brought down by controlled demolition, it's illogical to say that it was the control center. Where did they conduct the demolition of WTC 7? Why wouldn't they just conduct ALL of the demolitions from that location? It simply makes no sense to say that the twin tower demolition was conducted from one place, and then that one place was destroyed from another place when it would have made a lot more sense to blow them all up from that place that conducted the WTC 7 demolition and wasn't blown up!
Micpsi - April 17, 2007 10:16 AM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Dollar @ Apr 16 2007, 04:27 PM) |
| QUOTE | | Is there anything we know that is not consistent with this explanation? |
Yes. Since WTC 7 was brought down by controlled demolition, it's illogical to say that it was the control center. Where did they conduct the demolition of WTC 7? Why wouldn't they just conduct ALL of the demolitions from that location? It simply makes no sense to say that the twin tower demolition was conducted from one place, and then that one place was destroyed from another place when it would have made a lot more sense to blow them all up from that place that conducted the WTC 7 demolition and wasn't blown up!
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Your argument that it was illogical for WTC 7 to be the command center for the demolition because it had to be destroyed from some other building is weak and unconvincing. Why would the controlled demolition of WTC 7 have had to be initiated from some OTHER building? If all the explosives pre-planted in WTC 7 were fired by some computer-controlled radio transmitter, time-delayed so that everyone could leave the building before the planned time of detonation, what better way of destroying this incriminating evidence than to have it in the very high-security building that was to be demolished? If the demolition of all the buildings had been carried out from some other one, it would have left the problem of getting rid of the electronics used to signal the detonation of the explosives. It's YOUR suggestion that the demolitions of all three buildings were carried out from some other one that does not make sense. That scenario would have been far riskier, as it still left the problem of removing and destroying all the electronics/ transmitters that were used, whereas having them sited in the very building that was to be destroyed later eliminated this problem.
jakeb - April 18, 2007 02:12 PM (GMT)
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| Why would the controlled demolition of WTC 7 have had to be initiated from some OTHER building? |
Good point. Although I would have to wonder the same thing about WTC 1 & 2? If the CD of 7 can be done from within the building, why not a similar situation for the towers?
Dollar - April 20, 2007 06:31 AM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Micpsi @ Apr 17 2007, 05:16 AM) |
| Your argument that it was illogical for WTC 7 to be the command center for the demolition because it had to be destroyed from some other building is weak and unconvincing. |
Let me get this straight. The reason my argument is unconvincing is because you have a completely uncorroborated theory that the demolitions were conducted from within WTC 7? Why do I even spend time reading arguments from you people?
Reggie_perrin - April 20, 2007 12:21 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Dollar @ Apr 20 2007, 06:31 AM) |
| Why do I even spend time reading arguments from you people? |
"you people" ? , ....look Nobody is making you read this board.You don't think there is anything wrong with the official Bush/neo-con molded story, fair enough, move on with your life, i don't understand the mentality of people who spend all there waking hours "de-bunking" theories they think are stupid and paranoid, if thats all they on then why you here ? you have every right to do whatever you want, but i don't see where the motivation is in targeting the 9/11 truth movement, which has the support of a large portion of the victims familes (not all but probably the majority, see Bill Doyle) who want a new investigation....would you support that ? most people who arn't living in a quagmire of denial can see the holes/distortions/flat out contradictions in the official story.
TomBombadillo - April 24, 2007 04:57 AM (GMT)
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| No one wanted the WTC towers because they had asbestos that needed to be replaced at a very high cost, the cabling and power and ventillation system was outdated and costly to upgrade, and there weren't many tenants in the building. |
Where did you get this information ? At the time of the lease to Silverstein the WTC was almost fully rented at some of the highest rates in NYC.
Why would they have a command center right next to the building. Wouldn't it have been wiser to set it up at some remote location?