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Title: How Would You Boost Economy?
Description: IF YOU BECAME PRESIDENT


alive and still talking - January 15, 2008 05:12 PM (GMT)
Please list your suggestions on what you would do to help your country
recover from impending economic collapse, help the housing industry become
more readily accessible to americans, protect people from job loss and foreclosure

health care, ending the war, etc. assuming that we have already elected a new president who has no ties to the bush regime :)

I would have HUD buy foreclosed homes and make them readily available to the lower middle class and poor with no credit requirements to qualify

that would instantly solve the katrina and calif homeless problem, or wherever people are being hit by natural disasters and job loss.

the program would include a job networking support system second to none

Arbor - January 15, 2008 05:49 PM (GMT)
"I would have HUD buy foreclosed homes and make them readily available to the lower middle class and poor with no credit requirements to qualify"

Mao would be very proud.

Yonatan - January 15, 2008 08:47 PM (GMT)
The first thing that comes to mind is getting the hell out of Iraq and divert those funds to R&D of renewable technologies and manufacturing techniques so we stop depending on the OPEC and China respectively.

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I would have HUD buy foreclosed homes and make them readily available to the lower middle class and poor with no credit requirements to qualify


Exactly how is this going to boost the economy? You are practically giving away money to the banks who lent money to people they knew could not pay them back.

alive and still talking - January 15, 2008 08:59 PM (GMT)
when families have cheap housing, that frees up their paychecks to spend out in the free market for everyday family needs. This kind of commerce represents
over 2/3rd the gross national product, therefore jump-starting the economy. :)

of course, I would require blood testing too weed out methamphetamine and other street drug users to maintain a chance to meet the original objective. that is what is wrong with HUD now, they to not screen for drug-using families, therefore perpetuating the problem

marijuana should be legal, so screening for that would not affect eligibility

these are programs (HUD) that are already in place, requiring no new financing

I SHOULD BE PRESIDENT :P

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The first thing that comes to mind is getting the hell out of Iraq and divert those funds to R&D of renewable technologies and manufacturing techniques so we stop depending on the OPEC and China respectively.


YOU should be president

I'm in favor of hydrogen technology and skip biofuels, we should be growing food to feed the hungry

Yonatan - January 15, 2008 09:04 PM (GMT)
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  when families have cheap housing, that frees up their paychecks to spend out in the free market for everyday family needs. This kind of commerce represents
over 2/3rd the gross national product, therefore jump-starting the economy.


I am having a hard time believing that private consumption from low income families makes up for two thirds of the GNP. Can you cite the source of this figure?

Economics is unrelated to my field (electromechanical engineering) but this figure seems way off.

alive and still talking - January 15, 2008 09:21 PM (GMT)
consumer spending from all income brackets make up 2/3 the gross national product, this is fact, and wall street knows it.

low middle income, middle class income all fit and should qualify, those above that income bracket can take care of themselves


anybody can fall through the cracks of the system after years of financial success
all they have to do is get sick and suffer huge medical bills not covered by insurance


health problems can get you fired quicker than any other reason to fire somebody

Yonatan - January 15, 2008 09:31 PM (GMT)
At first you said you would provide housing for low income families on the basis that their consumption makes up for two thirds of the GNP so again, can you cite the source of this figure? I read that private consumption as whole makes up for two thirds of the gross domestic product so that's why I'm asking.

alive and still talking - January 15, 2008 09:53 PM (GMT)
ask wall street, it is common knowledge among all economists who diagnose our problems

the only thing missing is the solution, free up the income of so many so they can
SPEND IT on themselves


little or no cost in housing is the answer, there are so many VACANT HOUSES
standing right now

ALL OVER THE COUNTRY with no people in them, and how many are homeless ?
women, children, veterans, old people. they live on checks from the govt.
like wage earners they contribute to the gross national product because like
everybody else, they have to buy food, medicine, clothes, bicycles, cars, gas
currently the cost of housing prevents them from even doing that.

basically, for the very poor, freeing up their checks for eveyday needs would in effect be RE-INJECTING tax money back into the economy, not falling into the hands of slum lords who are already rich and don't spend money, only invest in more cheap property to get richer

vast amounts of money would be re-circulated back into the economy instead of finding its way to the rich and the few.

System Of A Down - January 15, 2008 10:52 PM (GMT)
Cannabis

in all its forms


damn that would be tight

fuck china salve goods B)

888LetsRoll - January 16, 2008 12:42 AM (GMT)
I would pose a 5,000% tarriff on Chinese goods.

alive and still talking - January 16, 2008 12:55 AM (GMT)
BUY AMERICAN, sooo simple :)

T3QuillAMocKINGbird - January 16, 2008 03:12 AM (GMT)
Robbin HUD Brilliant! Wow so just take the homes from people who couldn't afford their Predatory lended houses and give them to more people that can't afford them in a recessionary economy on top of it. You just don't get it... Steal from the Poor and Unfortunate to give to the Poor and Unfortunate. Great suggestion, now there will be a War on the Middle Class and they will duke it out just to come in last either way.

Does anyone understand that all things fall upon the consumers back? It can't be held up by an inflationary dollar either along with overbearing taxations on land that actually increased with the fake market housing boom lead by fraudulent bankers. That is the epitome of the word too Fraud U Lent, sounds like a great name for a new bank.

Here is americas alive and talking way of doing business. Lets put everyone to work making Hillary Clinton banners and bumper stickers. Well I am the competition and I will goto China and knock off the banners and stickers and even the cartoon adorned coffee mugs.

Well Americas workers are paid $8.00 and hour and mine were paid 50 Cents an hour. The costs of my raw materials for banners were inferior and Alive and Talkings cost way more, keep it made in the USA right. I actually have the corner on the market right now for blank aluminum pins with traces of lead but they will get through because the gov doesn't and can't check all products. Some lobbyist may have paid a congress person to look the other way but it didn't cost me anything. You have to tool up and make the actual pins and cost out raw materials plus labor per piece.

Your pins come out funny cuz you tryed to save money on the ink and it smeared on the eyeliner of Hillary's portrait and made it look like Tears were streaming down her face.

Now All of your workers have to buy from your Hillary Mart with over head (as it is over the head) and mine get them from street vendors and buy online from fake constituent websites that seem affiliated but are just making money off of the latest fad and gimmick to come down the pipe.

Well, where I made money you actually were doing it to support a cause for so called change and you actually loose money as you didn't include the shipping costs because it would be wrong to have to make the poor people pay extra. Not to mention the exorbitant costs you paid. And if your workers actually buy their own product then they loose twice as they worked now merely for a badge of honor and to wave a banner as they wave goodbuy to their country.

The economy is based on worthless inflationary paper, that would have to change before any change could ever happen that benefits average people. Economy is based on corporations that leave poor rations for your rationale to dwell on and yet you feel passionate change could happen. Perhaps by voting for someone or a woman that seems to help poor underpriveledged people with tax money generated from those same poor underpriveledged people. As the costs flow downhill not uphill and this is what you are not understanding. Raise the taxes on rich people and they raise their margins and add in costs. Who pays the costs? Katrina victims and middle class housewives trying to make ends meet pay, only to loose their house to watch Katrina victims move in and steal their equity.

Constitutional Tax structure and putting the dollar back on constitutional grounds is what change truly is. There is ways to do it so that the dollar is stabilized while the transition from the Fed to the US Congress occurs.

Sorry so long winded, I am a frustrated american writer on strikethrough and not happy with the contractual participle that has been dangled forcing me to sing the star spangled banner everytime I cash my check, signed by foreign influence that you can bank on.

alive and still talking - January 16, 2008 03:21 AM (GMT)
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Robbin HUD Brilliant! Wow so just take the homes from people who couldn't afford their Predatory lended houses and give them to more people that can't afford them in a recessionary economy on top of it. You just don't get it... Steal from the Poor and Unfortunate to give to the Poor and Unfortunate. Great suggestion, now there will be a War on the Middle Class and they will duke it out just to come in last either way.

houses are going to be taken by the banks (now owned by arabs and chinese) anyway. hud homes currently exist in the millions, they need to soften credit requirements to help good families who have been stricken by disaster so
they can continue on being part of the economy.

hud can buy more homes from the banks instead of letting investors grab them up for a song, and re-sell them at another inflated price again. there are too many displaced families because houses have been artificially inflated in terms of value for decades, families have suffered as a result because wages have been frozen the whole time.

T3QuillAMocKINGbird - January 16, 2008 03:51 AM (GMT)
I worked with lawyers on the S & L crisis and saw countless fraud cases. This epidemic will leave the middle class in utter peril. The money is already gone damage done so now HUD can save the day? HUD is a scam and makes people less productive, how does that help America other than the poor and underpriveledged? And who pays for their privledge to be underpriveledged? Maybe all americans should go on HUD and see how long it lasts.

The Middle class family that got ousted from their house still needs a house. Perhaps Hillary will save us with a new program called MUD housing from Adobe, and then just Photoshop it cuz she loves to paint a pretty picture of change. MUD, not an acronym it is real MUD housing. Still the same con in the economy just a different sponsor of irresponsibility and social programs that go nowhere merely to churn our earnings into social stagnation.

Bongo Thud - January 16, 2008 07:54 AM (GMT)
I would eliminate public housing except for the disabled and elderly, and force able bodied welfare recipients to pollinate flowers and trees to make up for all the missing honeybees.

NWOgre - January 16, 2008 09:55 AM (GMT)
I would place a ban on Television, YouTube and all the other shit that keeps the masses from thinking.

Roxdog - January 16, 2008 04:28 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (alive and still talking @ Jan 15 2008, 03:21 PM)
health problems can get you fired quicker than any other reason to fire somebody

Source please.

T3QuillAMocKINGbird - January 16, 2008 07:29 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Bongo Thud @ Jan 16 2008, 02:54 AM)
I would eliminate public housing except for the disabled and elderly, and force able bodied welfare recipients to pollinate flowers and trees to make up for all the missing honeybees.

:lol: Older people always use that saying Busy as a Bee, I think they would enjoy this job! After all this is the land of Milk and Honey and for all those who were Milking it can now have a sweet job... :lol:

Headhunter - January 16, 2008 10:03 PM (GMT)
Infrastructure, and education. Unless you can take a long term approach, beginning with the end in mind, with integrity, you generally get nowhere fast.

Whoever's the best educated with the best infrastructure wins, it's as simple as that. Distribution of human intellectual capital, via the exchange of information, ideas, relationships, etc., that's what it's all about. IMHO.

alive and still talking - January 17, 2008 12:34 AM (GMT)
we need someone who represents the american people, and that's ME

legalize pot
nationalize domestic oil
freeze prices at the pump@1.50
fire all the republicans
release young people imprisoned for minor offenses
stop sending billions to dictators abroad
get rid of all the laws except the basics
abolish taxation on everyone except the rich
provide free housing for everyone


that's just for starters :P

888LetsRoll - January 17, 2008 12:43 AM (GMT)
does anyone remember the shanty towns ...? well before public housing -- we in America had shanty towns just about every city had a poorer than dirt shanty town. guess what.. we will see them again or they will be sent to the camps... >?

alive and still talking - January 17, 2008 12:47 AM (GMT)
free housing for all :)

tower - January 17, 2008 01:49 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (alive and still talking @ Jan 17 2008, 12:47 AM)
free housing for all :)

How driving homebuilding companies out of business (or getting into even more debts, since someone has to pay for these houses) is going to boost the economy?

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fire all the republicans

In other words, estabilish fascism.

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get rid of all the laws except the basics

Define basics.


alive and still talking - January 19, 2008 05:17 AM (GMT)
the republicans ARE the fascists in this country.

basics? read the original draft of the constitution

System Of A Down - January 19, 2008 05:27 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (alive and still talking @ Jan 19 2008, 12:17 AM)
the republicans ARE the fascists in this country.

basics? read the original draft of the constitution

YOU FAIL! BIG TIME FAIL!

Bongo Thud - January 19, 2008 06:08 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (System Of A Down @ Jan 19 2008, 12:27 AM)
QUOTE (alive and still talking @ Jan 19 2008, 12:17 AM)
the republicans ARE the fascists in this country.

basics? read the original draft of the constitution

YOU FAIL! BIG TIME FAIL!

Indeed, that was thunderous, epic fail.

tower - January 19, 2008 06:46 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (alive and still talking @ Jan 19 2008, 05:17 AM)
the republicans ARE the fascists in this country.

And obviously banning them is totally fair and not what the fascists did to ensure there is no political opposition, certainly it's nothing like that!

PS
user posted image
Heil?

T3QuillAMocKINGbird - January 19, 2008 10:12 PM (GMT)
If Ron Paul was a Woman and a Democrat, I am sure Alive and Still Talking would be smart enough to vote for Her. Ron Paul was americas' last chance and now we will get to watch the Real Armegeddon thread brought to you by the NWO HilLIARy Clinton.

Must be mind control as I can't understand people that talk about not wanting the NWO in power and simultaneously voting them in. AHH Wolves in sheeps clothing will be the excuse those that vote her in use, and it is a veil that always prevails.

Bill Clinton Speaks of a New World Order

Hillary and her New Wonderbra Order

Was the Free Housing for all in the Hillary campaign? And the basics of the constitution are what Ron Paul speaks of, while Hilliary speaks as the Con in the Constitution as the pimp would speak of the Pros as a Prostitution within the words and concepts of the constitution.

It is like when a Billionaire gets Philanthropic at the end of his conquest. He made all of the money from the economy and taken out of the economy, only to then go and pay for a Library to be built so that those people that didn't survive his cutt throat ventures will be able to have a place to go and read a book about adventure. They may possibly brush up on economy books while they are there too.

Meanwhile the same people and companies that built all of his infrastructure were given the bid to build the Library and they make tons of profit from the philanthropy. He may even be a stock holder of that construction company or a wholly owned subsidiary even.

Only all the late fees at the Library go to the same people that didn't survive the cutt throat ventures and they pay once again! :lol:

Roxdog - January 19, 2008 10:18 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (alive and still talking @ Jan 18 2008, 11:17 PM)
the republicans ARE the fascists in this country.

basics? read the original draft of the constitution

False. The fascists of this country have well permeated both phony wings of our political establishment. Ha....now you are pretending to have read and understand the Constitution????...bwahhaha....the circus never sleeps.




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