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Title: 757 Can't Be!
Description: Speeds doesn't make sense


Liquid_Imagination - August 27, 2007 10:13 PM (GMT)
Hey there guys

I was reading a few thing here that made me think for a second that I didnít see anywhere. Look at this:

QUOTE
8:20 am : Flight 77 departs from Dulles Airport. Some 20 miles from the Pentagon.

8:50 : Last radio communication with flight 77. Now some 280 miles from the Pentagon.

8:56 : Transponder contact lost. Now some 335 miles from the Pentagon.

9:00 : Flight 77 turns and heads for the Pentagon (Washington DC). Now some 370 miles away from the Pentagon.

The hijackers finally make their move (and about time, all the time they are getting further and further away from where they started, and of course, further and further away from where they are headed).

To give the Air National Guard/USAF a fighting chance the intrepid hijackers wait till they are about 400 miles away from their target before turning back.

But even though the hijackers are more than sporting about the whole affair (after all they have given the USAF over 40 minutes to get aircraft up to investigate, and if necessary, shoot them down) the totally incompetent (read corrupt) USAF isn't quite up to the job.

9:37 : AA77 crashes into the southwest side of the Pentagon. Now, precisely 0 miles from the Pentagon.


There is only 37 minutes to reach the Pentagon from 400 miles away. This done by a 757 according to the US Government.

It is impossible for a 757 to do that distance in that short period of time. Let me explain why. 400 Miles is exactly 643kmís. Now if you want to do that distance in one hour, you should move at 643Km/h. If you want to do it in half the time you should double the speed, which is 1286Km/h. I did work it out and, if you want to do that distance in 37 minutes, you have to fly at 1136Km/h. The 757 can only reach a top speed of 980Km/h!!

This is just more proof that we donít know the full truth.

darion - August 28, 2007 04:03 AM (GMT)
You have a good point. Thats somthing I never looked into myself. I never thought the times would be so messed up.

shug7272 - August 29, 2007 03:28 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (Liquid_Imagination @ Aug 27 2007, 05:13 PM)
Hey there guys

I was reading a few thing here that made me think for a second that I didnít see anywhere. Look at this:

QUOTE
8:20 am : Flight 77 departs from Dulles Airport. Some 20 miles from the Pentagon.

8:50 : Last radio communication with flight 77. Now some 280 miles from the Pentagon.

8:56 : Transponder contact lost. Now some 335 miles from the Pentagon.

9:00 : Flight 77 turns and heads for the Pentagon (Washington DC). Now some 370 miles away from the Pentagon.

The hijackers finally make their move (and about time, all the time they are getting further and further away from where they started, and of course, further and further away from where they are headed).

To give the Air National Guard/USAF a fighting chance the intrepid hijackers wait till they are about 400 miles away from their target before turning back.

But even though the hijackers are more than sporting about the whole affair (after all they have given the USAF over 40 minutes to get aircraft up to investigate, and if necessary, shoot them down) the totally incompetent (read corrupt) USAF isn't quite up to the job.

9:37 : AA77 crashes into the southwest side of the Pentagon. Now, precisely 0 miles from the Pentagon.


There is only 37 minutes to reach the Pentagon from 400 miles away. This done by a 757 according to the US Government.

It is impossible for a 757 to do that distance in that short period of time. Let me explain why. 400 Miles is exactly 643kmís. Now if you want to do that distance in one hour, you should move at 643Km/h. If you want to do it in half the time you should double the speed, which is 1286Km/h. I did work it out and, if you want to do that distance in 37 minutes, you have to fly at 1136Km/h. The 757 can only reach a top speed of 980Km/h!!

This is just more proof that we donít know the full truth.

WOW great point and welcome. I want to read more on this. Also the flight data recorder shows the plane at about half thrust the whole way, until the end. I believe.

adi2d30 - August 30, 2007 09:56 PM (GMT)
all those distances are driving miles

Liquid_Imagination - August 30, 2007 11:09 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (adi2d30 @ Aug 30 2007, 04:56 PM)
all those distances are driving miles

I knew someone will say that so I did work it out with Statute miles(driving). And whether we use either of them, it is still not possible.

Vin Dicator - August 31, 2007 04:34 PM (GMT)
yeah wow, that 's some interesting information. That timeline sure is mind boggling.

Nyxus - September 14, 2007 04:14 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (Liquid_Imagination @ Aug 27 2007, 05:13 PM)
Hey there guys

I was reading a few thing here that made me think for a second that I didnít see anywhere. Look at this:

QUOTE
8:20 am : Flight 77 departs from Dulles Airport. Some 20 miles from the Pentagon.

8:50 : Last radio communication with flight 77. Now some 280 miles from the Pentagon.

8:56 : Transponder contact lost. Now some 335 miles from the Pentagon.

9:00 : Flight 77 turns and heads for the Pentagon (Washington DC). Now some 370 miles away from the Pentagon.

The hijackers finally make their move (and about time, all the time they are getting further and further away from where they started, and of course, further and further away from where they are headed).

To give the Air National Guard/USAF a fighting chance the intrepid hijackers wait till they are about 400 miles away from their target before turning back.

But even though the hijackers are more than sporting about the whole affair (after all they have given the USAF over 40 minutes to get aircraft up to investigate, and if necessary, shoot them down) the totally incompetent (read corrupt) USAF isn't quite up to the job.

9:37 : AA77 crashes into the southwest side of the Pentagon. Now, precisely 0 miles from the Pentagon.


There is only 37 minutes to reach the Pentagon from 400 miles away. This done by a 757 according to the US Government.

It is impossible for a 757 to do that distance in that short period of time. Let me explain why. 400 Miles is exactly 643kmís. Now if you want to do that distance in one hour, you should move at 643Km/h. If you want to do it in half the time you should double the speed, which is 1286Km/h. I did work it out and, if you want to do that distance in 37 minutes, you have to fly at 1136Km/h. The 757 can only reach a top speed of 980Km/h!!

This is just more proof that we donít know the full truth.

so, wait...you're saying that from 8:20 to 9:00 (when the plane took off and then turned around) is radically different from 9:00 to 9:37? By my count, its a difference of 3 minutes. Also, the plane was originally being flown by a presumably responsible pilot, sticking to guidelines for speed and such. After 9:00, it was being flown by someone else, who's main goal was to get to his target ASAP. I wouldn't be reaching too far to imagine that he pumped up the speed just a tad.

This timeline proves nothing.

NoQuestionAboutIt - September 16, 2007 08:29 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Nyxus @ Sep 13 2007, 11:14 PM)
After 9:00, it was being flown by someone else, who's main goal was to get to his target ASAP. I wouldn't be reaching too far to imagine that he pumped up the speed just a tad.

What a load of crap. If the distance the plane was from the pentagon when the hijacker took over is correct (didn't look it up yet myself), it doesn't matter if the hijacker increased the speed or not, because at MAX speed the plane couldn't have gotten there in time.




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