|Le porte-parole de Mgr Fellay confirme l’envoi au Vatican du préambule clarifié |
Jacques Berset, Apic
Paris/Menzingen, 18 avril 2012 (Apic) Entre Rome et la Fraternité Saint-Pie-X, "on est encore dans la phase d’étude", a déclaré mercredi 18 avril à l’Apic l’abbé Alain Lorans, responsable à Paris de la communication de la Fraternité sacerdotale Saint-Pie X (FSSPX).
Mgr Fellay Ordinations à Ecône en 2009 (Photo: Jacques Berset)Mgr Fellay Ordinations à Ecône en 2009 (Photo: Jacques Berset)
Commentant la nouvelle publiée la veille par le vaticaniste Andrea Tornielli sur le site "Vatican Insider", le porte-parole qualifie de "positif" le fait que Mgr Bernard Fellay, supérieur général de la FSSPX, ait répondu en début de semaine aux demandes de clarification du cardinal William Levada, préfet de la Congrégation romaine pour la Doctrine de la Foi. Mais "tout n’est pas encore réglé", souligne-t-il.
Trop vite en besogne
L’abbé Alain Lorans estime qu’Andrea Tornielli va peut-être trop vite en besogne, car le pape Benoît XVI et la Congrégation pour la Doctrine de la Foi doivent encore examiner les éclaircissements apportés par Mgr Fellay concernant le préambule doctrinal soumis en septembre 2011. La Congrégation pour la doctrine de la foi (CDF) avait demandé à la Fraternité Saint-Pie-X, le 16 mars 2012, de clarifier sa position sur ce préambule doctrinal lors d’une rencontre au Vatican avec son supérieur général. La Fraternité avait jusqu’au 15 avril pour donner une nouvelle réponse, ce qui a été fait.
Le responsable à Paris de la communication de la Fraternité attend le communiqué du Vatican – qui devrait tomber, selon lui, mercredi 18 avril - pour faire une communication officielle. Si l’information était confirmée, elle marquerait la fin d’une séparation de près de 24 ans, après la rupture causée par le "schisme d’Ecône" de 1988 qui avait vu l’excommunication de Mgr Marcel Lefebvre pour avoir ordonné quatre évêques traditionalistes sans l’aval de Rome. (apic/be)
|Communiqué of the Pontifical Commission "Ecclesia Dei"|
The text of the response of His Excellency Bp. Bernard Fellay, Superior General of the Priestly Fraternity of Saint Pius X, requested during the meeting in the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith of March 16, 2012, was delivered on April 17, 2012. This text will be examined by the Dicastery and submitted afterwards to the judgment of the Holy Father.
|Paris, 10.44 am|
Paris: Rome and the Society of Saint Pius X "are still at the study stage"
The spokesman for Mgr. Fellay confirms that the clarified Preamble has been sent to the Vatican
Jacques Berset, Apic
Paris/Menzingen, 18 April 2012 (Apic). Rome and the Society of Saint Pius X "are still at the study stage", Fr. Alain Lorans, Paris director of communications for the Society of Saint Pius X (SSPX) told Apic on Wednesday 18 April. Commenting on the news published yesterday evening by the Vatican journalist, Andrea Tornielli on the "Vatican Insider" website, he described as "positive" the fact that Mgr. Fellay, Superior General of the SSPX, had replied at the beginning of the week to the requests for clarification of Cardinal William Levada, Prefect for the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith. "But nothing has been settled yet," he emphasised.
He got to work too quickly [literally]
Fr. Alain Lorans considers that Andrea Tornielli got to work too quickly, because Pope Benedict XVI and the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith (CDF) still have to examine the clarifications provided by Mgr. Fellay to the Doctrinal Preamble of September 2011. The Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith (CDF) asked the Society of Saint Pius X on 16 March 2012 to clarify its position on the Doctrinal Preamble during a meeting at the Vatican with the Superior General. The Society had until 15 April to give a new reply, which it has now done.
In Paris the director of communications for the Society is waiting for the reply [communiqué] from the Vatican, which, he says, should be made on Wednesday 18 April, in order to make an official statement. If the information is confirmed, this would mark the end of a separation of nearly 24 years, following the break caused by the "schism of Econe" in 1988, which led to the excommunication of Archbishop Lefebvre for having consecrated four bishops without the permission of Rome. (apic/be)
|Rome, 18.4.12 (Kipa). On Wednesday the Vatican received an answer from the Superior General of the traditionalist Society of St. Pius X, Bernard Fellay. The text is now being examined by those responsible and will then be passed to the Pope for a decision, according to a statement by the Papal Commission "Ecclesia Dei" on Wednesday. This department, which is attached to the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith is responsible for traditionalists. Nothing has yet been made known of the contents of Mgr. Fellay’s letter.|
|QUOTE (gregj @ Apr 18 2012, 11:32 AM)|
|Lorans, a known liberal, is obviously expecting a deal. That's bad too. Very.|
|QUOTE (Shamus @ Apr 18 2012, 12:05 PM)|
|Strange then that +F allows him to have such an important role and speak on his behalf...|
|QUOTE (gregj @ Apr 18 2012, 12:47 PM)|
Well, he runs DICI, which is the official communications agency of the SSPX (kind of a press bureau, I guess).
I did notice that DICI didn't public the condemnation of Assissi III, by Fr. Regis de Cacqueray, which Bishop Fellay specifically approved. It was published on laportelatine.org (SSPX France District Web site) but not on DICI.org. Speaks volumes.
|QUOTE (Dumb Ox @ Apr 18 2012, 01:37 PM)|
|Dear Shamus and gregj,|
Fr. Lorans alongside Fr. Célier are collaborators of the Conciliarist-ecumenical group Grec - Groupe de Réflexion Entre Catholiques (Reflection Group Between Catholics).
Fr. Célier was put in charge of Fideliter before being put in control of the Society's French website, La Porte Latine.
Fr. Lorans, of course, is in charge of Menzingen's media relations arm DICI.
Fr. Célier authored the book Benoît XVI et les Traditionalistes in which he welcomed as a future development what he termed the "Pipaule" Mass (derived from Pius-Paul) a synthesis of the Traditional Mass with the Novus Ordo à la Benedict XVI's infamous "Reform of the Reform" and "Hermeneutic of Continuity".
Fr. Célier's book was edited, and the introduction written, by Jean-Luc Maxence who writes for La Chaine d'Union, the journal of the Grand Orient of France.
Fr. Pfluger wrote in regard to Benoît XVI et les Traditionalistes that it was a "masterpiece".
Then throw into the mix the fact that the French District Superior Fr. Cacqueray is very solidly opposed to any deal.
Make of all that what you will.
|QUOTE (Shamus @ Apr 18 2012, 11:43 AM)|
Could this drag on to Pentecost and the end of + Fellay's Third Rosary Crusade? What then? Solemn gratitude for a "third miracle" of the Blessed Virgin Mary for the "greater good of the Church" and the magnanimity of the Holy Father?
|QUOTE (gregj @ Apr 18 2012, 12:32 PM)|
| In other words, what Tornielli said is wrong. Bishop Fellay has not signed "the Preamble" or anything similar. He has done what he said he would do, which is to send a further letter clarifying the SSPX position. |
This is not news, it was known publicly beforehand, but it isn't good, as none of this has been good.
Lorans, a known liberal, is obviously expecting a deal. That's bad too. Very.