Title: Chartres 2011
Gregorio Sarto - March 14, 2011 10:50 PM (GMT)
...It's fast approaching that time of the year again, folks.
As in previous years, there will be an English-speaking chapter from these isles. For other info, contact details of the organiser are available here (NB - this is last years web=page, so the dates have changed) :
http://www.sspx.co.uk/index.php?option=com...broad&Itemid=57This year, Whitsun weekend is 11-13th June.
There are already a handful of people confirmed as coming which bodes well, since many people seem to make up their minds fairly last minute.
Clare - March 14, 2011 11:30 PM (GMT)
This warrants a new thread, so I'll separate that post, if that's ok? In fact, I'll do it anyway!
Margaret Clitherow - March 15, 2011 03:54 PM (GMT)
How I'd love to go. I'm afraid I'm feeling a bit too old and a tad too arthritic, although I did manage to walk Saint Cuthbert's way 4 years ago. I think 13 miles in one day has been my limit. Any idea what's the age of the most senior pilgrim to complete the full distance?
Gregorio Sarto - March 15, 2011 08:56 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Margaret Clitherow @ Mar 15 2011, 03:54 PM) |
| Any idea what's the age of the most senior pilgrim to complete the full distance? |
There's a gentleman from London, in his 70s, who has some trouble walking, who I have seen complete the whole of Chartres more than once in the last few years...
...and there was an old Irish lady (who, I have just been told, has gone to her eternal reward. Requiescat in pace. :praycross:)
...but, yes, it's tough.
AdoramusTe - March 22, 2011 10:59 AM (GMT)
Booking my holiday now!
Will be there for the pilgrimage, God willing! :praycross:
Gregorio Sarto - April 26, 2011 12:05 AM (GMT)
So far, it's looking like numbers will be good from our part of the world. Fr. Sherry will be going as caplain to the young trads from Ireland and England. There's about another two weeks left for people to register at a discount, so if any members from GB/Eire know anyone else who'd like to join us, please PM Clare or myself.
The title of this year's pilgrimage, it seems, is "Vrai Roi dans l'Hostie" i.e. on the theme of the Blessed Sacrament:
http://pelerinagesdetradition.com/ChartresParis2010.aspx
There is a novena begining on 2nd May, I will try to remember to remind everyone nearer the time.
For those who can read French, practical info, including itinerary, etc. can be found here:
http://pelerinagesdetradition.com/Document...8lerins2011.docMeanwhile, here's some photos from last year:



:)
Kilroy - May 22, 2011 06:34 AM (GMT)
...3 weeks until kick off, is anyone here going? :plane:
Clare - May 22, 2011 09:49 AM (GMT)
Yay, Kilroy woz 'ere!
I'll not be going, incidentally.
AdoramusTe - May 22, 2011 07:39 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Kilroy @ May 22 2011, 07:34 AM) |
| ...3 weeks until kick off, is anyone here going? :plane: |
Ready and waiting!
Kilroy - May 23, 2011 08:47 AM (GMT)
Tis a shame Claire!
I'm sure I'll see you there Adoramus Te.
Gregorio Sarto - May 23, 2011 09:51 PM (GMT)
Just spoke to the French organisingy-type-people tonight. The English chapter is confirmed. There ought to be about 15 from England, together with a few from Ireland, and of course, Fr. Sherry. :)
I am green with envy at not being able to go with you!!!!
Makes me feel like I'm no younger the spring chicken I used to be...! :gpa: I do hope someone takes some nice piccies and says a few prayers for those of us left languishing at home...!
BTW, like the new avatar, Kilroy. Is it who I think?
Clare - May 23, 2011 10:05 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Gregorio Sarto @ May 23 2011, 10:51 PM) |
| I do hope someone takes some nice piccies... |
Someone better had! :snap:
AdoramusTe - May 23, 2011 10:28 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Clare @ May 23 2011, 11:05 PM) |
| QUOTE (Gregorio Sarto @ May 23 2011, 10:51 PM) | | I do hope someone takes some nice piccies... |
Someone better had! :snap:
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Everyone better stand still then - daguerreotypes take a long time!
Clare - May 23, 2011 10:35 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (AdoramusTe @ May 23 2011, 11:28 PM) |
| QUOTE (Clare @ May 23 2011, 11:05 PM) | | QUOTE (Gregorio Sarto @ May 23 2011, 10:51 PM) | | I do hope someone takes some nice piccies... |
Someone better had! :snap:
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Everyone better stand still then - daguerreotypes take a long time!
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You need to upgrade to a Box Brownie, AT!
Gregorio Sarto - May 23, 2011 10:36 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (AdoramusTe @ May 23 2011, 10:28 PM) |
| QUOTE (Clare @ May 23 2011, 11:05 PM) | | QUOTE (Gregorio Sarto @ May 23 2011, 10:51 PM) | | I do hope someone takes some nice piccies... |
Someone better had! :snap:
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Everyone better stand still then - daguerreotypes take a long time!
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Daguerrotype??!!
You'd better remember to wear your top hat, starched cravate, and improbably fashioned 1840s facial hair! :D
AdoramusTe - May 23, 2011 10:42 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Gregorio Sarto @ May 23 2011, 11:36 PM) |
| QUOTE (AdoramusTe @ May 23 2011, 10:28 PM) | | QUOTE (Clare @ May 23 2011, 11:05 PM) | | QUOTE (Gregorio Sarto @ May 23 2011, 10:51 PM) | | I do hope someone takes some nice piccies... |
Someone better had! :snap:
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Everyone better stand still then - daguerreotypes take a long time!
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Daguerrotype??!!
You'd better remember to wear your top hat, starched cravate, and improbably fashioned 1840s facial hair! :D
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I'm all out of starch - I shall have to settle for one of these frightful "ties" that everyone is wearing these days!
Kilroy - May 24, 2011 05:58 AM (GMT)
Yep Sarto, tis a shame you can't make it. Still, I'm glad to hear there's a good number going, I believe there's a bunch of Americans popping over too. V)
I've been in touch with our mutual friends in Douvres and they'll be along :wh:
I'm afraid I'll be cameraless so won't be able to do the honours this year :(
As for the new avatar, I guess that depends on who you think it is...?
Any ideas? :blink:
Gregorio Sarto - May 24, 2011 05:46 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Kilroy @ May 24 2011, 05:58 AM) |
As for the new avatar, I guess that depends on who you think it is...?
Any ideas? :blink: |
Could it be my confirmation patron - him whose name is the third initial in my email address...?
Failing that it's one of the English martyrs. I know that picture very well, I'm ashamed that it's on the tip of my tongue...
He's definitely a (English?) Jesuit from the recusant days....
Clare - May 24, 2011 05:59 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Gregorio Sarto @ May 24 2011, 06:46 PM) |
| Failing that it's one of the English martyrs. I know that picture very well, I'm ashamed that it's on the tip of my tongue... |
Just googled a name and found the image. Initials E.C. ;)
Gregorio Sarto - May 24, 2011 06:18 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Clare @ May 24 2011, 05:59 PM) |
| QUOTE (Gregorio Sarto @ May 24 2011, 06:46 PM) | | Failing that it's one of the English martyrs. I know that picture very well, I'm ashamed that it's on the tip of my tongue... |
Just googled a name and found the image. Initials E.C. ;)
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Gotcha. I knowed it were him... :P ;)
AdoramusTe - May 24, 2011 07:30 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Gregorio Sarto @ May 24 2011, 07:18 PM) |
| QUOTE (Clare @ May 24 2011, 05:59 PM) | | QUOTE (Gregorio Sarto @ May 24 2011, 06:46 PM) | | Failing that it's one of the English martyrs. I know that picture very well, I'm ashamed that it's on the tip of my tongue... |
Just googled a name and found the image. Initials E.C. ;)
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Gotcha. I knowed it were him... :P ;)
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I knowed it before you! V)
Kilroy - May 24, 2011 08:26 PM (GMT)
Bang on ;)
A true hero of our isle :lsabre:
Clare - May 24, 2011 08:44 PM (GMT)
I initially thought it might be Sir Francis Drake... :bl:
Margaret Clitherow - May 25, 2011 05:05 PM (GMT)
I have a query about the Pilgrimage. I first became aware of it via the N.O. Traditionalists (if that's not a contradiction) and then discovered that the SSPX also took part. Initially it made me wonder how the two groups got on, but I then discovered that they do it in opposite directions. My question is, who started it and when, and when did the other group join in, and have they always done it in different directions? Also, do you meet at the crossover point, and if so, do you acknowledge one another? I'm just curious.
Gregorio Sarto - May 25, 2011 07:00 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Margaret Clitherow @ May 25 2011, 05:05 PM) |
| I have a query about the Pilgrimage. I first became aware of it via the N.O. Traditionalists (if that's not a contradiction) and then discovered that the SSPX also took part. Initially it made me wonder how the two groups got on, but I then discovered that they do it in opposite directions. My question is, who started it and when, and when did the other group join in, and have they always done it in different directions? Also, do you meet at the crossover point, and if so, do you acknowledge one another? I'm just curious. |
The old pilgrimage route for a small pilgrimage in France is Paris to Chartres Cathedral. St. Joan of Arc made that pilgrimage as a small girl.
Some French Catholics started it up again, just walking it as a small group, not long after the council. They were sort of conservatively minded, but not followers of Abp. LEfebvre. They formed an association called "Notre Dame de Chretienete" (Our Lady of Christendom). The event grew throughout the 70s and 80s - the people who did it were "trads", in the days when the distictions and boundaries between various groups and positions were not as distinct.
Even so I am told that, back in the old days, the SSPX used to have their own chapters within the Pilgrimage, and used to counsel people not to go with this or that group, and some other chapters who were a bit wishy-washy, said the same to their people about not going with the SSPX, etc. We'd need to hear from someone who remembers the old days to know exactly, but there were tensions - it was a kind of uneasy truce.
Then in 1988 with the consecrations, I think the SSPX basically decided to leave. They weren't told to leave, but they thought it best to go anyway, as a matter of tact, because the organisers (N="Notre Dame de Chretienete") were more of the 'Ecclesia Dei' way of thinking. So the SSPX took their people and did the Pilgrimage the other way round. That's how it's been ever since.
Margaret Clitherow - May 25, 2011 08:25 PM (GMT)
Thanks for that, Gregorio. I can understand how things may have become a bit tense over the years.
Kilroy - May 25, 2011 08:25 PM (GMT)
...As for meeting halfway, it never happened last year but I'm told it has happened before.
As I was making my way to the station in Paris last year for the train to Chartres with a group of pilgrims, we passed dozens, in fact hundreds of traddy looking people heading the other people who eyed us suspiciously. :angry: I was at a loss but the French people with me kept wishing them a bright 'good morning' and explained that it was the FSSP folk, heading to start their pilgrimage in Paris. :P
Gregorio Sarto - May 25, 2011 09:25 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Kilroy @ May 25 2011, 08:25 PM) |
...As for meeting halfway, it never happened last year but I'm told it has happened before. |
I remember one time, not long ago, when we were at the very rear of the column, on Sunday, and we saw the very front of their column, coming up a side road towards us. So I suppose we narrowly avoided bumping into each other that year, though most people won't've been aware...
Kilroy - May 26, 2011 08:01 AM (GMT)
No doubt they were sneaking up to take you from behind :guns:
Had not your hawk eye vision :horn: and lightning fast skills and drills prevailed :uzi:
...who knows what might have befallen the thousands of unsuspecting folk in front of you! :horror:
Gregorio Sarto - June 3, 2011 11:50 PM (GMT)
Clare - June 11, 2011 01:10 PM (GMT)
The pilgrimage must be well underway now.
Sunny-Gem - June 11, 2011 01:23 PM (GMT)
I've been promised prayers on the pilgrimage so I hope it's going well! :) can't wait to see some pictures.
Clare - June 11, 2011 03:31 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Sunny-Gem @ Jun 11 2011, 02:23 PM) |
| ... can't wait to see some pictures. |
There had better be some! :bat:
Gregorio Sarto - June 11, 2011 09:09 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Clare @ Jun 11 2011, 03:31 PM) |
| QUOTE (Sunny-Gem @ Jun 11 2011, 02:23 PM) | | ... can't wait to see some pictures. |
There had better be some! :bat:
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Don't worry, at least one of the English chapter has promised to take some photos for everyone... :)
Gregorio Sarto - June 14, 2011 04:55 PM (GMT)
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La Porte Latine On Saturday morning, with 6000 pilgrims officially registered, the Pilgrimage departed Chartres. Fr. Bernard Lacoste, at the start of his sermon, congratulated the pilgrims for coming in such great numbers from all over France, all over Europe, even the United States and Asia. |
[cont'd...]
Gregorio Sarto - June 14, 2011 04:57 PM (GMT)
Gregorio Sarto - June 14, 2011 05:07 PM (GMT)
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La Porte Latine This year, even more than any other, the passers-by who watched - in admiration - as the pilgrims went past, were surpirsed by the sight of thousands of young Catholics who had sacrificed three days of "bank holiday" in order to do penance. |
[cont'd...]
Gregorio Sarto - June 14, 2011 05:18 PM (GMT)
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La Porte Latine Mgr. de Galarreta takes care of the smooth-running of future Pontifical Mass, with the servers. |
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La Porte Latine There sould have been enough ciboria, but for the first time ever at one of these events, the priests had to fracture a large number of hosts in order to give Communion to the large number of pilgrims. |
Gregorio Sarto - June 14, 2011 05:32 PM (GMT)
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La Porte Latine Several Thousand faithful accompanied the Blessed Sacrament on procession through the streets of the French capital. Hundreds of servers and 'choir boys', dozens of girls in white, hundreds of secular clergy and religious, from the affilitated religious communities: this was the Honour Guard for the King of Kings. |
[cont'd.....]
Gregorio Sarto - June 14, 2011 06:42 PM (GMT)
Pictures on the German District website;
Blessed Sacrament Procession through the streets of Paris:http://www.piusbruderschaft.de/index.php?o...=1155&Itemid=48German children's chapter and Eucharistic Crusade:http://www.piusbruderschaft.de/index.php?o...=1156&Itemid=48