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Title: A very sad day for France :(
Description: (Marine Le Pen wins FN leadership)


Gregorio Sarto - January 16, 2011 11:29 PM (GMT)
http://www.intransigeants.com/2011/01/cest...l-aviv#comments

Marine Le Pen has beaten Bruno Golnische to the Party Leadership, and is now leader of the French "Front National". :no:

She's a divorcee "working Mum", who wants to "liberalise" the party - pro-feminist, pro-homo, secular, republican/dempcrat, and is generally not very sympathetic to Catholics.... I could go on.

If members like, I'll have a go at translsating the article when I have time. Suffice to say, she's bad news.

AdoramusTe - January 16, 2011 11:51 PM (GMT)
Terrible news.
But surely, if she got voted into this position of leadership, then it reveals something about the majority of the members of the FN, who are responsible for putting her in place.

Clare - January 17, 2011 09:48 AM (GMT)
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Marine Le Pen 'chosen to lead France's National Front'

France's far right National Front has chosen Marine Le Pen as its new leader, replacing her father Jean-Marie Le Pen, party officials say.

The results will be officially announced on Sunday, but party sources said she had secured about two-thirds of members' votes.

Mr Le Pen is stepping down after leading the ultra-nationalist party, which he founded, for almost 40 years.

In 2002 he came a shock second in the first round of presidential elections.

Mr Le Pen lost the second round to incumbent Jacques Chirac.

A count of votes cast ahead of the annual FN congress in the central city of Tours showed Ms Le Pen, 42, who had the backing of her father, had easily beaten her rival, Bruno Gollnisch.

The FN, with its anti-immigration agenda has been shunned by France's main parties.

But Ms Le Pen has said she wants to break with its xenophobic, anti-Islam image and is confident the FN can become part of mainstream politics.

A recent poll suggested the party could come third in the presidential elections to be held in 2012.


Ms Le Pen has said she wants to break with its xenophobic, anti-Islam image...

And she can do that better than someone who's married to a non-European? :o :swoon:

PeterSimple - January 17, 2011 05:00 PM (GMT)

Let's look on the bright side. It's not often I say that! No amount of complaining can change the choice of the FN membership.

The FN members voted for Marine for two reasons.

1. She has the surname Le Pen,
2. She has a chance of winning an election.

I completely agree that her liberal views are disgraceful and that Gollnisch was a preferable candidate (despite his strange choice of wife) but .........

Marine looks good (a blonde bombshell, although not in the Alessandra Mussolini league) and is very clever. Hopefully the more traditional Catholic and Vichy-friendly sections of the party will keep her from selling out completely. Surely no daughter of Jean-Marie could be completely unsound? Alternatively they will use her as a poster girl and replace her with someone more hardline once power has been attained.

It may well be that politicians like Marine are merely the first stage in a Europe-wide revolt against the Judeo-Bolsheviks.

Let's pray that Marine embraces Traditional Catholicism.

PS

Gregorio Sarto - January 17, 2011 07:23 PM (GMT)
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It's party time in Tel Aviv!

In all likelihood, Marine Le Pen seems to have been elected with more than 2/3 of the votes, a score remniscent of the Soviets for a party in the process of being Sovietised, as witnessed by all the supporters of Bruno Golnisch who have experienced such harrassment over recent weeks; and as even Bruno Golnisch himself admits in private, this "candidate of fair play", who has suffered from  spanners thrown in the works ceaslessly during his campaign, leading all the way to Jean-Marie Le Pen, who ought to have had the decency to remain neutral! He who himself has spent so much time criticising political nepotism down the years - what a betrayal! Certainly, the death of Duprat in 1978 reveals many surprises thirty years later.

So, it seems the "best horse" won: a noisy little thing, but very wicked one. A "Durafour"* here, a "detail" there, but above all lots and lots of "Republican values". In contrast, Bruno Golnisch has never complained once, and never had an ungracious word to say about Marine Le Pen, in spite of their values being diametrically opposed!!
In reality, everyone understood from the begining that there were two Front Nationals, represented by the two candidates for the leadership.
The media were the first to realise it, and they have not ceased to roll out the red carpet for the progressive Marine, who will soon be going off to feast at a CRIF** dinner, or to sob at Yad Vashem with her friends from the UDP or Vlaams Belang.
Will daddy be there too? Wouldn't that just be perfect, a "late conversion"!

Let the imbeciles celebrate their victory - they've just elected the candidate of the future France: assimilationist, republican, liberal, and "trans gender"***
Perhaps they'll find some consolation if she makes it into the second round of the Presidential election in 2012. That's what the "New Front" is all about: a bunch of overgrown children who are just ecstatic to see Marine on telly talking face to face with the TF1 interviewer. The Zionist journalist and Marine got along great together, they were all smiles, all is well with Her Ladyship, vive la France. Pip pip.


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Duly noted! The candidate of the system has finally been elected, and she's anti-Catholic and anti-Life.**** The balot box has spoken, but since we're not supporters of democracy, that's not that big a deal for us. Nonetheless, there is now an urgent need to re-create a party with a Catholic constitution which is set in stone, sufficiently representative of the values which we defend. It's program will be very simple: the 10 commandments and the Social Reign of Christ the King. Nothing more, nothing less. Not in order to win a presidential election (we'll all find it funny, twenty years down the line, when Marine is still talking about her chance of getting elected, an event which would surprise us greatly!) but simply in order not to die out. As Jerome Bourbon has said in Rivarol*****, from this point forward it's all about creating resistance networks, and building solid structures, solid enough for the great cataclysm which is coming. We have to prepare ourselves for a France of general chaos, the France of the anti-Christ. If Bruno Golnisch feels that he has sufficient control over matters to create such a party, there is a large crowd of French Catholics who will follow him without hesitation. With Christ as a banner, nothing is impossible.



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Translation notes:
*[Durafour was a French lefty-Jewish politician, whom Jean-Marie LePen once attacked re. the big H - trans.],
"detail" is a reference to the time J-M LePen caused a storm by refering to the same big H as a "detail of history".

**[Conseil Représentatif des Institutions juives de France - French equivalent of the "Board of Deputies" in England.]

***[I believe this is another reference to that fact that (as pointed out before by LesIntrans, several times!) Marine does not exactly excel in feminine virtue. She even sounds like a man, with the deep voice of a heavy smoker...]

****For proof of this, see: http://www.intransigeants.com/2010/12/mari...-pour-la-france .

***** A fairly good magazine/newspaper, of a similar outlook to LesIntrans.
See www.rivarol.com

Gregorio Sarto - January 17, 2011 07:31 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (PeterSimple @ Jan 17 2011, 05:00 PM)
Hopefully the more traditional Catholic and Vichy-friendly sections of the party will keep her from selling out completely.

It's been looking for some time like the Traditional Catholic and Vichy sections have been quietly being purged from the party. She herself has openly said she doesn't want teh FN to be associated with them, if she gets her way. This leadership race was their last stand...


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Surely no daughter of Jean-Marie could be completely unsound?

I hate to say it, but she's showing all the signs of being a French Nick Griffin. Or worse.
For example, one of the latest candidates for general election Marine endorsed was an openly lesbian, militant feminist.

It's not looking good...

Clare - January 17, 2011 07:57 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (PeterSimple @ Jan 17 2011, 05:00 PM)
...Gollnisch was a preferable candidate (despite his strange choice of wife)...

:rolleyes:

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Marine looks good (a blonde bombshell, although not in the Alessandra Mussolini league)

:rolleyes:

And again:

:rolleyes:

Clare - January 17, 2011 08:00 PM (GMT)
With all those asterisks, I thought there must have been an awful lot of swearing in that article, Gregorio!

Gregorio Sarto - January 17, 2011 09:30 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Clare @ Jan 17 2011, 07:57 PM)
QUOTE (PeterSimple @ Jan 17 2011, 05:00 PM)
...Gollnisch was a preferable candidate (despite his strange choice of wife)...

:rolleyes:

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Marine looks good (a blonde bombshell, although not in the Alessandra Mussolini league)

:rolleyes:

And again:

:rolleyes:

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: Love it!

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With all those asterisks, I thought there must have been an awful lot of swearing in that article, Gregorio!

Just trying to do a good job. :doff:

Clare - January 17, 2011 11:18 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Gregorio Sarto @ Jan 17 2011, 07:31 PM)
QUOTE
Surely no daughter of Jean-Marie could be completely unsound?

I hate to say it, but she's showing all the signs of being a French Nick Griffin. Or worse.

Well, in November, Bruno Gollnisch said:

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"Nick Griffin is a charming man, a courageous man, a very intelligent man. I am a great admirer of Nick Griffin. If Marine Le Pen wishes to distance the Front National from Nick Griffin and the BNP, then that shows the difference between Marine and myself..."

confederate catholic - January 18, 2011 06:22 PM (GMT)
ahem what is this thread even about, like here in america, you know the greatest country in the world, we know all about the frenchies, like didnt they invent those fried potato things and like become the place where armies stop on there way to importaint places, like sooooo like who cares what they do. just saying :wh:

Gregorio Sarto - January 18, 2011 10:29 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Clare @ Jan 17 2011, 11:18 PM)
I hate to say it, but she's showing all the signs of being a French Nick Griffin. Or worse.
[/QUOTE]
Well, in November, Bruno Gollnisch said:

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"Nick Griffin is a charming man, a courageous man, a very intelligent man. I am a great admirer of Nick Griffin. If Marine Le Pen wishes to distance the Front National from Nick Griffin and the BNP, then that shows the difference between Marine and myself..."

What Golnisch said then was a reaction to what Marine had first said about the BNP, and it's in that context that it has to be read.

Marine distanced herself from Griffin/BNP as being "too extreme/hardline" and not touchy-feely enough. Now, clued-up British members will realise that Griffin and the Nu-BNP are a complete sell out on most important points, especially moral values. But Marine still thinks they're far too hard-line and backwards for her. That'll give you some idea of what we're dealing with here.

Gregorio Sarto - January 18, 2011 10:30 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (confederate catholic @ Jan 18 2011, 06:22 PM)
ahem what is this thread even about, like here in america, you know the greatest country in the world, we know all about the frenchies, like didnt they invent those fried potato things and like become the place where armies stop on there way to importaint places, like sooooo like who cares what they do. just saying :wh:

:lol: Quite!

:tc:

Gregorio Sarto - February 12, 2011 03:05 PM (GMT)
Well folks, it every bit as bad as we feared. The sell-out of the FN continues apace. Just read this article in Rivarol:

http://www.rivarol.com/Billet.html

"Shoah: Marine Le Pen poignarde son père"


QUOTE

Holocaust - Marine Le Pen betrays her father.
by Jérôme BOURBON


It didn't take long to happen. Barely elected leader of the Front National and Marine completely flies in the face of her father on the subject of the Second World War. After a lot of questions, during her Feb.3rd interview with Le Point, about her view of history, the new head honcho of the FN declared:
"Everyone knows what took place inside the camps, and the conditions in which it took place. What happened in those places is the worst possible form of barbarity, and believe me, I never forget that barbarity."
At no point did Marine Le Pen invoke the barbarity of the phosphorous bombing of Dresden or Hamburg by the Allies, nor the enormous number of German women who were raped by the Soviet army, nor the forced exile of millions of central European Germans.


What's more, "Le Point" were astonished to learn that Marine LePen, when she was still a member of the Ile-de-France regional Parliament, had tabled a motion on behalf of the FN group in the parliament, to allow them to accompany school children to Auschwitz. How did the female president of the FN reply to that?

"It was an ammendment of principle. I found it unnacceptable that my group was not taking part in these trips. It is a problem with democracy - for me, ostracising a political party by implying that it is anti-Semitic or neo-Nazi is intolerable. I feel no afilliation with what once was the German army. I have no fascination, no sentimentality towards it. That army murdered our fathers and our brothers, I never forget that. And I cannot stand those people who come across as ambiguous on the issue."


Question (from the "Le Point" Journalist, Saïd Mahrane):
"Like those who are 'ambiguous' about the Holocaust?"

(Answer:)
"Yes, they get on my nerves in the same way. It's ridiculous!"


Marine doesn't offer a single word for Vincent Reynouard, the father of eight who was dragged of to a Gulag in Valenceinnes for a crime of incorrect opinion.
Of course, he's just another one who 'gets on her nerves'!
At the very least, she could have something to say denouncing the obstacles put in place in France, and in the European Union, to prevent freedom of research and freedom of expression on issues surrounding the Second World War.
No, nothing at all. It's just another thing which she has scrificed in her submission to the powerful lobby which opens all the doors to radio and T.V.



Perhaps we will be forgiven for preferring the attitude of Bruno Gollnisch who has just signed the Blanrue petition calling for the abolition of the infamous 'Gayssot law', and the liberation of Vincent Reynouard which has already been signed by more than a thousand people.**



Marine's own father must have 'got on her nerves', since he came out with many "historically incorrect" statements over the last twenty-five years, which proved (at the very least) his "ambiguity" on such issues as the Holocaust.
Witness this particularly "sacrilegious" reply to a journalist from "Bretons" in April 2008, who said that "...the problem is not knowing the number of deaths but the way in which they were killed, as part of a planned genocide."

(J-M LP) :
"Yes, but that's just because you believe all that. I don't feel myself obliged to adhere to that particular vision. I note that at Auschwitz there was the IG Farben factory and there were 80,000 workers who worked there. To my knowledge, those ones at any rate were not gassed. Nor burned for that matter."


Since 16 January, the Front National no longer has the same President. Clearly we have not benefitted from the change.





** - http://blanrue.blogspot.com/2010/10/liste-...a-petition.html


Emphasis added when translating...

Clare - February 12, 2011 03:18 PM (GMT)
Ok, I can see how dissing revisionists might be seen as selling out. I'm not quite sure what is wrong with dissing the Nazis though. It's not as though they're above criticism! :unsure: :tc:

I mean, is it not true that:
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That army murdered our fathers and our brothers...

?

That bit is emboldened as though that was one of the outrageous sell-out things Marine said!

Gregorio Sarto - February 12, 2011 03:25 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Clare @ Feb 12 2011, 03:18 PM)
Ok, I can see how dissing revisionists might be seen as selling out. I'm not quite sure what is wrong with dissing the Nazis though. It's not as though they're above criticism! :unsure: :tc:

I mean, is it not true that:
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That army murdered our fathers and our brothers...

?

That bit is emboldened as though that was one of the outrageous sell-out things Marine said!

Firstly, had you better not check wether she's talking about the Nazis per se, or just the Germans?

Conflating the Nazi party with the German army is a grossly unfair, not to say ignorant thing to do. I'm sure she knows better, and I know you do Clare... ;)

And when one considers it's the German army she's calling murderers, not the National Socialist party, then it is an outrageous thing to say.

Many military historians and many veterans (including at least one retired colonel whom I once had the good fortune to meet) have either hinted or explicitly admitted that the germans fought a far cleaner war than us. The idea that the Germans are somehow "murderers" is the sort of talk you'd expect from a Communist "resistance" partisan...


Clare - February 12, 2011 03:28 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Gregorio Sarto @ Feb 12 2011, 03:25 PM)
Firstly, had you better not check wether she's talking about the Nazis per se, or just the Germans?

Aren't they the same?? :file:

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And when one considers it's the German army she's calling murderers, not the National Socialist party, then it is an outrageous thing to say.

Fair enough.

Feeneyite - February 12, 2011 04:24 PM (GMT)
I never miss an opportunity to quote Sirach(10:2-3)
As the judge of the people is himself, so also are his ministers: and what manner of man the ruler of a city is, such also are they that dwell therein. An unwise king shall be the ruin of his people: and cities shall be inhabited through the prudence of the rulers.

Gregorio Sarto - February 12, 2011 04:49 PM (GMT)

"I've been tossed aside like a used Kleenex. Why? I'm a Muslim and pro-Palestinian and anti-Israel. Marine Le Pen is financed by Israel, just like all those other 'popular' politicians..."

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Another even more high-level departure from the party is Roger Holleidre, who co-founded the Front National with Jean-Marie Le Pen, in 1972.
He was a vice president, and supported Bruno Gollnisch in his bid to become President of the FN.

A few weeks ago he left the party he founded, saying that he no-longer recognised it in the words and actions of Marine lePen:

"Marine Le Pen represents nothing whatever to do with the values which I have always defended!"

PeterSimple - February 13, 2011 08:27 PM (GMT)

I renounce my previous guarded optimism regarding Marine Le Pen. Gregorio, feel free to say "I told you so".

She's nothing but a Zionist puppet. French Trads had better look elsewhere for a political outlet.

PS


Gregorio Sarto - February 13, 2011 09:43 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (PeterSimple @ Feb 13 2011, 08:27 PM)
I renounce my previous guarded optimism regarding Marine Le Pen. Gregorio, feel free to say "I told you so".

...I tell you what, PS, I'll let you buy me a drink instead, next time we meet! :P


QUOTE
She's nothing but a Zionist puppet. French Trads had better look elsewhere for a political outlet.
Hear hear.
Come on Bruno, old chap. Start up a new party that Catholics can support!

Clare - February 13, 2011 10:30 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Gregorio Sarto @ Feb 13 2011, 09:43 PM)
Come on Bruno, old chap. Start up a new party that Catholics can support!

:but: He's one o'them awful r*c*-m*x*rs!

(Which I find quite reassuring, actually!)

Gregorio Sarto - February 18, 2011 05:45 PM (GMT)
Just been watching this debate which Marine LePen took part in a couple of days ago. The Communist-type chap who she's arguing against seemed largely to get the better of her. Although to be fair, he interrupts her a lot more than she does to him.

What's really interesting is the issue of "laicité" (the secular state) towards the end - he seems to end up being more logical and to know Catholic teaching a lot better than poor old Marine. He mentions St. Nicolas du Chardonnet church and quotes St. Pius X's encyclical Vehementer Nos as an example of the Church being opposed to everything that the French Republic stands for.
He's clearly on the opposite side from us, but he seems to know where the line is drawn a lot better than Marine...


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Gregorio Sarto - March 3, 2011 01:09 AM (GMT)

Perhaps this is the right to place to mention this upcoming event.

Notice it is in Villepreux, a place familiar to anyone who has made the Chartres Pilgrimage, as it is one of the campsite locations. It is also where Bruno Golnisch held his rally in his bid for the leadership of the FN. Coincidence?

www.congres-nationaliste.fr

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Gregorio Sarto - March 3, 2011 01:38 AM (GMT)
From Contre Info:

The new face of the Front National: foreign, militant lesbian and defector from the NPA

http://www.contre-info.com/le-nouveau-visa...ransfuge-du-npa

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:rolleyes:

(NPA is a Trotskyist/Anarchist party: the "New Anticapitalist Party." The girl in the interview describes how she joined the FN after being disappointed with the NPA.

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Gregorio Sarto - March 8, 2011 10:06 PM (GMT)
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/...l-election.html

Marine Le Pen 'would beat Nicolas Sarkozy' in presidential election

QUOTE



Marine Le Pen, the French National Front's new leader, stands to beat Nicolas Sarkozy in the first round of the presidential election next year, a shock poll suggested.


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Miss Le Pen's popularity began to rise after she distanced herself from her father's revisionist, anti-Semitic stance.


Miss Le Pen, who took over the far-Right FN from her father in January, would win 23 per cent of the vote if it took place today, the survey found, ahead of the centre-Right President, on 21 per cent.

Martine Aubry, the Socialist party leader also scored 21 per cent.

The results ignited a fierce debate over whether Mr Sarkozy was to blame for the far-Right surge by focusing on a string of pet FN issues, from immigration to Islam. Benoit Hamon, the Socialist party spokesman said: "Mr Sarkozy has fuelled the fire".

France will elect a new president in May next year and only the top two candidates can reach the second round.

Should the poll prove accurate, Miss Le Pen, a 42-year old mother of three, could go one better than her father, Jean-Marie, who knocked Lionel Jospin, the Socialist candidate, out of the 2002 presidential race. He came second in the first round to Jacques Chirac, who went on to win.

[...]


(...the rest of the article is available at the link above, but it's all so much hot air.)

One wonders if the Tel(...)graph need be so worried really.

Gregorio Sarto - March 31, 2011 11:04 PM (GMT)
Things seem to be degenerating fast since Marine took over.

Latest on the decline of the FN:

http://www.contre-info.com/sandra-kaz-cand...-et-escort-girl


Front National candidate is an "escort girl"...!

QUOTE


The weekly newspaper The Dunkirk Lighthouse on Wednesday unveiled the "hidden face" Sandra Kaz, FN candidate in Canton Coudekerque-Branch (North). 24.4% in the first round, 35.85% in the second.

Where other parties had submitted as candidates people such as "a social services official from the Dunkirk area, a worker from the naval hospital Zuydcoote, a youth-work/careers advice professional, an business entrepreneur, the head of a town hall department, a physician, and someone who retired early due to ill-health caused by asbestos," the Front National had opted for a writer, spare-time singer and literature student.

At least that's how she is described officially. Because Sandra Kaz is also "Gothika" on the net, a fan of Marilyn Manson, the "Antichrist Superstar". But that's not all. Sandra Kaz is also called "Angunn, an escort girl who officiates on two specialized sites. She describes herself as "a young educated woman, having traveled extensively and speaking 6 languages ​​fluently," who, she assures you, "will accompany you to your various parties ..." Electoral? According to our colleagues, Sandra Kaz feels she is "brimming full of confidence and [speaking of] putting herself forward for the next municipal elections."

When contacted by us, Louis Aliot, vice president of FN, said he "[was] not aware of this."

[...]


Murphy - April 1, 2011 09:41 AM (GMT)
Escort girl? No, no. You got it wrong. The correct description is a woman "liberated from the evils of patriarchal society and it's social norms".

Ravenonthecross - April 10, 2011 06:08 AM (GMT)
Are there no legitimist parties left in France? Does Action Francaise no longer exist?


Personally, I am Paleoconservative and supporter of Catholic Confessional states whether they be of Catholic Confessional Monarchists/Legitimists or a la Franco style.

Gregorio Sarto - April 20, 2011 11:57 PM (GMT)
Front National's youngest elected Regional Councillor expelled for being too "Right Wing"

[via contre-info.com]

http://www.contre-info.com/alexandre-gabri...onal#more-11649

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The decision was announced yesterday: Alexander Gabriac, the youngest regional councillor in the whole of France, has been expelled from the Front National following the circulation of a photo him in front of a swastika giving the Roman salute. [See here .]

On Tuesday, the "commission des conflits" composed of 12 office holders from within the party recommended a simple reprimand. But MArine LePen who had the final say, decided to expel the elected representative of "the Front" from the party, without warning, and is not leaving the matter there.

In fact virtually all hte old supporters of Bruno Gollnisch are on the verge of expulsion, as reported in Le Figaro:


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Along side Alexander Gabriac, about twenty or so Frontists were summoned on Tuesday to the disputes committee of the FN. Among them were several who are close to Gollnisch, coming - as Alexandre Gabriac - from its stronghold in Rhone-Alpes.

Like former Secretary of the Ain département, Oliver Wyss, who supported Gollnisch during the internal campaign, and whom the leadership of the FN accuses of deserting the local elections days before polling day. A Front National regional councillor for the Parliament of Rhone-Alpes, he explains that he resigned from his position of district secretary after the election of Marine LePen, because he does not share her political orientation, "...in particular her talk of laïcité [the doctrine of secularism], the Republic and the State" 





Gregorio Sarto - April 21, 2011 02:51 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (Gregorio Sarto @ Mar 3 2011, 01:09 AM)
Perhaps this is the right to place to mention this upcoming event.

Notice it is in Villepreux, a place familiar to anyone who has made the Chartres Pilgrimage, as it is one of the campsite locations. It is also where Bruno Golnisch held his rally in his bid for the leadership of the FN. Coincidence?

www.congres-nationaliste.fr

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There is a report on the website (already given above: www.congres-nationaliste.fr ) of the proceedings of the Fourth Nationalist Convention, held in Villepreux, ust over a week ago.

There were presentations and speeches, and among others present were the Renouveau Francais, Parti pour la France, the Spanish Falange, the SSPX-allied Civitas Institute, the editor of Rivarol Jerome Bourbon, Radio Resistance, the Franco-Serb Fraternity, and the Ukrainian Nationalist party Svoboda...

I'll translate it in the morning, but am off to bed now... :zzz:

Gregorio Sarto - April 25, 2011 08:06 PM (GMT)
Further to news of the recent expulsions by Marine LePen of senior elected officials from the party, here:
QUOTE (Gregorio Sarto @ Apr 20 2011, 11:57 PM)
Front National's youngest elected Regional Councillor expelled for being too "Right Wing"

[via contre-info.com]

http://www.contre-info.com/alexandre-gabri...onal#more-11649

QUOTE


The decision was announced yesterday: Alexander Gabriac, the youngest regional councillor in the whole of France, has been expelled from the Front National [...]





...the plot thickens:

http://www.contre-info.com/premier-desacco...rine#more-11721

The First Public Disagreement Between Jean-Marie LePen and his Daughter

[quote]
Jean Marie Le Pen, when he was invited on to the French T.V. channel LCI recently, criticised the decision of his daughter Marine to expel Alexander Gabriac from the party, even though the diciplinary committee had recommended a simple reprimand. Bruno Golnisch also said that he was "astonished".

This is the first ever time a breach has opened publically between the former President and founder of the FN and his daughter.

His appearance can be seen here:
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...since then, in the last 24 hours, Jean-Marie Le Pen has appeared on another French T.V. channel, and disagreed once gain with his daughter, if anything even more starkly:
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a83192 - April 22, 2012 05:19 PM (GMT)
Which candidate in France are trads there supporting for president?

Gregorio Sarto - April 22, 2012 06:43 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (a83192 @ Apr 22 2012, 05:19 PM)
Which candidate in France are trads there supporting for president?

Quite a significant number were supporting Carl Lang, but he has been disqualified under the outrageous new rule requiring candidates to have the signatures of 500 mayors.

Some will doubtless hold their noses and vote for Marine Le Pen, but many will not. There is no candidate Trads can fully support, alas.

We have a thread on Marine, somewhere in 'Social and Moral'.

Clare - April 22, 2012 07:19 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Gregorio Sarto @ Apr 22 2012, 07:43 PM)
We have a thread on Marine, somewhere in 'Social and Moral'.

Gregorio Sarto - April 25, 2012 07:13 PM (GMT)
Time for me to merge these threads, methinks.

Gregorio Sarto - April 25, 2012 08:25 PM (GMT)
http://www.contre-info.com/resultats-du-pr...-presidentielle

Result of the first round of the Presidential Election

user posted image (Hollande) - 28.5%

user posted image(Sarkozy) - 27.1%

user posted image (Le Pen) 18.2%

user posted image (Mélenchon) - 11.1%

user posted image (Bayrou) - 9.1%

user posted image (Joly) - 2.3%

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Some overall remarks:

- The results are falsified by the dilution of the vote by millions of foreigners, who are French on paper only, who took part in the vote;

- The French are far from ready to renounce the system (only small numbers of abstentions and protest votes);

- The foreign President Sarkozy did not obtain as low a score as the surveys predicted;

- Mélenchon, the crowing Communist revolutionary obtained a fairly mediocre result in spite of the support of the media and the surveys, but he split the far-left vote, leaving other left-wing parties looking anemic. The balloon was deflated.

- Certain regions confirmed their firm anchoring in the right wing, and - something new - Corsica turned out to be a credit to the FN.

- Marine Le Pen managed a slightly higher score than her father (and of course, much more than in 2007, after a very poor campaign) but still lower than the two main nationalist parties in 2002 (FN + MNR : 19.2%)
She had a very favourable set of circumstances on her side this year (economic crisis, Merah affair...) but her strategy of abandoning the politically incorrect points from the FN's manifesto and a strong change of ideological tack did not pay off, and ended with her not arriving in the second round as she had originally predicted.

Even if one takes the attitude that context counts for little, the new FN has significantly leftified and republicanised it's manifesto in return for, in the final analysis, no progress - or virtually none - since 2002.

Following this principle, what would it have to do in order to obtain 51%?


Gregorio Sarto - April 25, 2012 08:30 PM (GMT)

One other point worth noting, of interest to Catholics:

Eva Joly, the ridiculous "Green Party" candidate, in the ridiculous red spectacles, is the local MP in the "Indre" departement: she has lodged a complaint against the proposed new SSPX technical school which was to be set up there, and has appealed to the courts to stop it from happening.

She's not even French: she's oringally Nowegian and speaks with a very, very thick accent.

Clare - April 26, 2012 01:15 PM (GMT)
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Don't demonize National Front: Sarkozy

Published: 25 Apr 2012 10:14 GMT+1

French President Nicolas Sarkozy said on Wednesday he would not do a deal with the far-right, but insisted those who vote for Marine Le Pen's National Front should not be demonised.

Both Sarkozy and his Socialist challenger Francois Hollande finished ahead of Le Pen in Sunday's first round vote in France's presidential race, but the far-right flag-bearer won almost 18 percent of the vote.

Now the frontrunners are campaigning ahead of their May 6 run-off, and Sarkozy is under pressure from some in his camp to offer a hand to Le Pen's supporters, in the hope of closing Hollande's first-round lead.

"We need to speak to the 18 percent who voted for Marine Le Pen," Sarkozy said, in an interview with France Info radio.

"I don't regard this 18 percent as people with extreme-right ideas. Mr Hollande said: 'They were wrong'. I don't think when the people speaks it is wrong," the 57-year-old right-wing incumbent continued.

"But I don't want ministers from the National Front. I've never wanted that. The 18 percent who voted National Front don't belong to me, but it's my duty to address myself them," he said.

"What Mr Hollande has not understood is that we should speak to everybody. There will be no deal with the National Front, no ministers for them, but I have to take them into account and not feel I have to hold my nose."

Hollande won Sunday's vote with 28.63 percent to Sarkozy's 27.18, condemning Sarkozy to be the first sitting president since the Fifth Republic began in 1958 to lose a first round.

Now the pair have until May 6 to recruit enough voters to build a majority from those who abstained or voted for one of the eight defeated outsiders.


Chris - April 29, 2012 12:35 PM (GMT)
This has been very interesting to read, and far more informative than anything I've read online (i.e. online news media). Thanks. :ta:




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