|Marine Le Pen 'chosen to lead France's National Front'|
France's far right National Front has chosen Marine Le Pen as its new leader, replacing her father Jean-Marie Le Pen, party officials say.
The results will be officially announced on Sunday, but party sources said she had secured about two-thirds of members' votes.
Mr Le Pen is stepping down after leading the ultra-nationalist party, which he founded, for almost 40 years.
In 2002 he came a shock second in the first round of presidential elections.
Mr Le Pen lost the second round to incumbent Jacques Chirac.
A count of votes cast ahead of the annual FN congress in the central city of Tours showed Ms Le Pen, 42, who had the backing of her father, had easily beaten her rival, Bruno Gollnisch.
The FN, with its anti-immigration agenda has been shunned by France's main parties.
But Ms Le Pen has said she wants to break with its xenophobic, anti-Islam image and is confident the FN can become part of mainstream politics.
A recent poll suggested the party could come third in the presidential elections to be held in 2012.
It's party time in Tel Aviv!
In all likelihood, Marine Le Pen seems to have been elected with more than 2/3 of the votes, a score remniscent of the Soviets for a party in the process of being Sovietised, as witnessed by all the supporters of Bruno Golnisch who have experienced such harrassment over recent weeks; and as even Bruno Golnisch himself admits in private, this "candidate of fair play", who has suffered from spanners thrown in the works ceaslessly during his campaign, leading all the way to Jean-Marie Le Pen, who ought to have had the decency to remain neutral! He who himself has spent so much time criticising political nepotism down the years - what a betrayal! Certainly, the death of Duprat in 1978 reveals many surprises thirty years later.
So, it seems the "best horse" won: a noisy little thing, but very wicked one. A "Durafour"* here, a "detail" there, but above all lots and lots of "Republican values". In contrast, Bruno Golnisch has never complained once, and never had an ungracious word to say about Marine Le Pen, in spite of their values being diametrically opposed!!
In reality, everyone understood from the begining that there were two Front Nationals, represented by the two candidates for the leadership.
The media were the first to realise it, and they have not ceased to roll out the red carpet for the progressive Marine, who will soon be going off to feast at a CRIF** dinner, or to sob at Yad Vashem with her friends from the UDP or Vlaams Belang.
Will daddy be there too? Wouldn't that just be perfect, a "late conversion"!
Let the imbeciles celebrate their victory - they've just elected the candidate of the future France: assimilationist, republican, liberal, and "trans gender"***
Perhaps they'll find some consolation if she makes it into the second round of the Presidential election in 2012. That's what the "New Front" is all about: a bunch of overgrown children who are just ecstatic to see Marine on telly talking face to face with the TF1 interviewer. The Zionist journalist and Marine got along great together, they were all smiles, all is well with Her Ladyship, vive la France. Pip pip.
Duly noted! The candidate of the system has finally been elected, and she's anti-Catholic and anti-Life.**** The balot box has spoken, but since we're not supporters of democracy, that's not that big a deal for us. Nonetheless, there is now an urgent need to re-create a party with a Catholic constitution which is set in stone, sufficiently representative of the values which we defend. It's program will be very simple: the 10 commandments and the Social Reign of Christ the King. Nothing more, nothing less. Not in order to win a presidential election (we'll all find it funny, twenty years down the line, when Marine is still talking about her chance of getting elected, an event which would surprise us greatly!) but simply in order not to die out. As Jerome Bourbon has said in Rivarol*****, from this point forward it's all about creating resistance networks, and building solid structures, solid enough for the great cataclysm which is coming. We have to prepare ourselves for a France of general chaos, the France of the anti-Christ. If Bruno Golnisch feels that he has sufficient control over matters to create such a party, there is a large crowd of French Catholics who will follow him without hesitation. With Christ as a banner, nothing is impossible.
|QUOTE (PeterSimple @ Jan 17 2011, 05:00 PM)|
|Hopefully the more traditional Catholic and Vichy-friendly sections of the party will keep her from selling out completely.|
|Surely no daughter of Jean-Marie could be completely unsound?|
|QUOTE (PeterSimple @ Jan 17 2011, 05:00 PM)|
|...Gollnisch was a preferable candidate (despite his strange choice of wife)...|
|Marine looks good (a blonde bombshell, although not in the Alessandra Mussolini league)|
|QUOTE (Clare @ Jan 17 2011, 07:57 PM)|
|With all those asterisks, I thought there must have been an awful lot of swearing in that article, Gregorio!|
|QUOTE (Gregorio Sarto @ Jan 17 2011, 07:31 PM)|
I hate to say it, but she's showing all the signs of being a French Nick Griffin. Or worse.
|"Nick Griffin is a charming man, a courageous man, a very intelligent man. I am a great admirer of Nick Griffin. If Marine Le Pen wishes to distance the Front National from Nick Griffin and the BNP, then that shows the difference between Marine and myself..."|
|QUOTE (Clare @ Jan 17 2011, 11:18 PM)|
| I hate to say it, but she's showing all the signs of being a French Nick Griffin. Or worse.|
Well, in November, Bruno Gollnisch said:
|QUOTE (confederate catholic @ Jan 18 2011, 06:22 PM)|
|ahem what is this thread even about, like here in america, you know the greatest country in the world, we know all about the frenchies, like didnt they invent those fried potato things and like become the place where armies stop on there way to importaint places, like sooooo like who cares what they do. just saying :wh:|
Holocaust - Marine Le Pen betrays her father.
by Jérôme BOURBON
It didn't take long to happen. Barely elected leader of the Front National and Marine completely flies in the face of her father on the subject of the Second World War. After a lot of questions, during her Feb.3rd interview with Le Point, about her view of history, the new head honcho of the FN declared:
"Everyone knows what took place inside the camps, and the conditions in which it took place. What happened in those places is the worst possible form of barbarity, and believe me, I never forget that barbarity."
At no point did Marine Le Pen invoke the barbarity of the phosphorous bombing of Dresden or Hamburg by the Allies, nor the enormous number of German women who were raped by the Soviet army, nor the forced exile of millions of central European Germans.
What's more, "Le Point" were astonished to learn that Marine LePen, when she was still a member of the Ile-de-France regional Parliament, had tabled a motion on behalf of the FN group in the parliament, to allow them to accompany school children to Auschwitz. How did the female president of the FN reply to that?
"It was an ammendment of principle. I found it unnacceptable that my group was not taking part in these trips. It is a problem with democracy - for me, ostracising a political party by implying that it is anti-Semitic or neo-Nazi is intolerable. I feel no afilliation with what once was the German army. I have no fascination, no sentimentality towards it. That army murdered our fathers and our brothers, I never forget that. And I cannot stand those people who come across as ambiguous on the issue."
Question (from the "Le Point" Journalist, Saïd Mahrane):
"Like those who are 'ambiguous' about the Holocaust?"
"Yes, they get on my nerves in the same way. It's ridiculous!"
Marine doesn't offer a single word for Vincent Reynouard, the father of eight who was dragged of to a Gulag in Valenceinnes for a crime of incorrect opinion.
Of course, he's just another one who 'gets on her nerves'!
At the very least, she could have something to say denouncing the obstacles put in place in France, and in the European Union, to prevent freedom of research and freedom of expression on issues surrounding the Second World War.
No, nothing at all. It's just another thing which she has scrificed in her submission to the powerful lobby which opens all the doors to radio and T.V.
Perhaps we will be forgiven for preferring the attitude of Bruno Gollnisch who has just signed the Blanrue petition calling for the abolition of the infamous 'Gayssot law', and the liberation of Vincent Reynouard which has already been signed by more than a thousand people.**
Marine's own father must have 'got on her nerves', since he came out with many "historically incorrect" statements over the last twenty-five years, which proved (at the very least) his "ambiguity" on such issues as the Holocaust.
Witness this particularly "sacrilegious" reply to a journalist from "Bretons" in April 2008, who said that "...the problem is not knowing the number of deaths but the way in which they were killed, as part of a planned genocide."
(J-M LP) :
"Yes, but that's just because you believe all that. I don't feel myself obliged to adhere to that particular vision. I note that at Auschwitz there was the IG Farben factory and there were 80,000 workers who worked there. To my knowledge, those ones at any rate were not gassed. Nor burned for that matter."
Since 16 January, the Front National no longer has the same President. Clearly we have not benefitted from the change.
|That army murdered our fathers and our brothers...|
|QUOTE (Clare @ Feb 12 2011, 03:18 PM)|
| Ok, I can see how dissing revisionists might be seen as selling out. I'm not quite sure what is wrong with dissing the Nazis though. It's not as though they're above criticism! :unsure: :tc:|
I mean, is it not true that:
That bit is emboldened as though that was one of the outrageous sell-out things Marine said!
|QUOTE (Gregorio Sarto @ Feb 12 2011, 03:25 PM)|
|Firstly, had you better not check wether she's talking about the Nazis per se, or just the Germans?|
|And when one considers it's the German army she's calling murderers, not the National Socialist party, then it is an outrageous thing to say.|
|QUOTE (PeterSimple @ Feb 13 2011, 08:27 PM)|
|I renounce my previous guarded optimism regarding Marine Le Pen. Gregorio, feel free to say "I told you so".|
|She's nothing but a Zionist puppet. French Trads had better look elsewhere for a political outlet.|
|QUOTE (Gregorio Sarto @ Feb 13 2011, 09:43 PM)|
|Come on Bruno, old chap. Start up a new party that Catholics can support!|
Marine Le Pen, the French National Front's new leader, stands to beat Nicolas Sarkozy in the first round of the presidential election next year, a shock poll suggested.
Miss Le Pen's popularity began to rise after she distanced herself from her father's revisionist, anti-Semitic stance.
Miss Le Pen, who took over the far-Right FN from her father in January, would win 23 per cent of the vote if it took place today, the survey found, ahead of the centre-Right President, on 21 per cent.
Martine Aubry, the Socialist party leader also scored 21 per cent.
The results ignited a fierce debate over whether Mr Sarkozy was to blame for the far-Right surge by focusing on a string of pet FN issues, from immigration to Islam. Benoit Hamon, the Socialist party spokesman said: "Mr Sarkozy has fuelled the fire".
France will elect a new president in May next year and only the top two candidates can reach the second round.
Should the poll prove accurate, Miss Le Pen, a 42-year old mother of three, could go one better than her father, Jean-Marie, who knocked Lionel Jospin, the Socialist candidate, out of the 2002 presidential race. He came second in the first round to Jacques Chirac, who went on to win.
The weekly newspaper The Dunkirk Lighthouse on Wednesday unveiled the "hidden face" Sandra Kaz, FN candidate in Canton Coudekerque-Branch (North). 24.4% in the first round, 35.85% in the second.
Where other parties had submitted as candidates people such as "a social services official from the Dunkirk area, a worker from the naval hospital Zuydcoote, a youth-work/careers advice professional, an business entrepreneur, the head of a town hall department, a physician, and someone who retired early due to ill-health caused by asbestos," the Front National had opted for a writer, spare-time singer and literature student.
At least that's how she is described officially. Because Sandra Kaz is also "Gothika" on the net, a fan of Marilyn Manson, the "Antichrist Superstar". But that's not all. Sandra Kaz is also called "Angunn, an escort girl who officiates on two specialized sites. She describes herself as "a young educated woman, having traveled extensively and speaking 6 languages fluently," who, she assures you, "will accompany you to your various parties ..." Electoral? According to our colleagues, Sandra Kaz feels she is "brimming full of confidence and [speaking of] putting herself forward for the next municipal elections."
When contacted by us, Louis Aliot, vice president of FN, said he "[was] not aware of this."
The decision was announced yesterday: Alexander Gabriac, the youngest regional councillor in the whole of France, has been expelled from the Front National following the circulation of a photo him in front of a swastika giving the Roman salute. [See here .]
On Tuesday, the "commission des conflits" composed of 12 office holders from within the party recommended a simple reprimand. But MArine LePen who had the final say, decided to expel the elected representative of "the Front" from the party, without warning, and is not leaving the matter there.
In fact virtually all hte old supporters of Bruno Gollnisch are on the verge of expulsion, as reported in Le Figaro:
|QUOTE (Gregorio Sarto @ Mar 3 2011, 01:09 AM)|
| Perhaps this is the right to place to mention this upcoming event. |
Notice it is in Villepreux, a place familiar to anyone who has made the Chartres Pilgrimage, as it is one of the campsite locations. It is also where Bruno Golnisch held his rally in his bid for the leadership of the FN. Coincidence?
|QUOTE (Gregorio Sarto @ Apr 20 2011, 11:57 PM)|
|Front National's youngest elected Regional Councillor expelled for being too "Right Wing"|
|QUOTE (a83192 @ Apr 22 2012, 05:19 PM)|
|Which candidate in France are trads there supporting for president?|
|QUOTE (Gregorio Sarto @ Apr 22 2012, 07:43 PM)|
|We have a thread on Marine, somewhere in 'Social and Moral'.|
Some overall remarks:
- The results are falsified by the dilution of the vote by millions of foreigners, who are French on paper only, who took part in the vote;
- The French are far from ready to renounce the system (only small numbers of abstentions and protest votes);
- The foreign President Sarkozy did not obtain as low a score as the surveys predicted;
- Mélenchon, the crowing Communist revolutionary obtained a fairly mediocre result in spite of the support of the media and the surveys, but he split the far-left vote, leaving other left-wing parties looking anemic. The balloon was deflated.
- Certain regions confirmed their firm anchoring in the right wing, and - something new - Corsica turned out to be a credit to the FN.
- Marine Le Pen managed a slightly higher score than her father (and of course, much more than in 2007, after a very poor campaign) but still lower than the two main nationalist parties in 2002 (FN + MNR : 19.2%)
She had a very favourable set of circumstances on her side this year (economic crisis, Merah affair...) but her strategy of abandoning the politically incorrect points from the FN's manifesto and a strong change of ideological tack did not pay off, and ended with her not arriving in the second round as she had originally predicted.
Even if one takes the attitude that context counts for little, the new FN has significantly leftified and republicanised it's manifesto in return for, in the final analysis, no progress - or virtually none - since 2002.
Following this principle, what would it have to do in order to obtain 51%?
|Don't demonize National Front: Sarkozy|
Published: 25 Apr 2012 10:14 GMT+1
French President Nicolas Sarkozy said on Wednesday he would not do a deal with the far-right, but insisted those who vote for Marine Le Pen's National Front should not be demonised.
Both Sarkozy and his Socialist challenger Francois Hollande finished ahead of Le Pen in Sunday's first round vote in France's presidential race, but the far-right flag-bearer won almost 18 percent of the vote.
Now the frontrunners are campaigning ahead of their May 6 run-off, and Sarkozy is under pressure from some in his camp to offer a hand to Le Pen's supporters, in the hope of closing Hollande's first-round lead.
"We need to speak to the 18 percent who voted for Marine Le Pen," Sarkozy said, in an interview with France Info radio.
"I don't regard this 18 percent as people with extreme-right ideas. Mr Hollande said: 'They were wrong'. I don't think when the people speaks it is wrong," the 57-year-old right-wing incumbent continued.
"But I don't want ministers from the National Front. I've never wanted that. The 18 percent who voted National Front don't belong to me, but it's my duty to address myself them," he said.
"What Mr Hollande has not understood is that we should speak to everybody. There will be no deal with the National Front, no ministers for them, but I have to take them into account and not feel I have to hold my nose."
Hollande won Sunday's vote with 28.63 percent to Sarkozy's 27.18, condemning Sarkozy to be the first sitting president since the Fifth Republic began in 1958 to lose a first round.
Now the pair have until May 6 to recruit enough voters to build a majority from those who abstained or voted for one of the eight defeated outsiders.