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+ Albrecht von Brandenburg - December 27, 2010 10:40 PM (GMT)
As I said earlier, on Holy Innocents/Childermass, I would re-do the Magnificent Altars thread, this time with pictures imbedded rather than linked, so here goes:

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Lady Altar at Salisbury (New Sarum).

+ Albrecht von Brandenburg - December 28, 2010 08:54 AM (GMT)
English Martyrs altar:

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+ Albrecht von Brandenburg - December 28, 2010 09:07 AM (GMT)
This is somewhat labourious.

I'll do it in lots over several days.

+ Albrecht von Brandenburg - December 28, 2010 09:21 AM (GMT)
High Altar, Halberstadt cathedral:

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+ Albrecht von Brandenburg - December 28, 2010 09:26 AM (GMT)
City Patron Saints Altar, Cologne Cathedral:

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+ Albrecht von Brandenburg - December 28, 2010 09:28 AM (GMT)
That'll do to go on with, for today.

Clare - December 28, 2010 10:05 AM (GMT)
Rather stunning! :)

ardmacha - December 28, 2010 11:04 AM (GMT)
I wish that some of our "Traditionalist Altars" could look like some of these, instead of looking like shelves to support bits of lace and candlesticks. Traditional Catholics seems to like quantity rather than quality. The late Fr Ronald Silk wrote well about under-furnishing churches with a few beautiful things rather than stuffing them full of religious objects of varying quality.

+ Albrecht von Brandenburg - December 28, 2010 11:38 AM (GMT)
Hear, hear!!!

confederate catholic - December 28, 2010 05:35 PM (GMT)
!!!!!!!!!awesome altars!!!!!!!!!!

It is truly amazing that there are objects in our churches that are not first class, Jesus Christ deserves the best.

confederate catholic - December 28, 2010 05:36 PM (GMT)
!!!!!!!!!awesome altars!!!!!!!!!!

It is truly amazing that there are objects in our churches that are not first class, Jesus Christ deserves the best.

+ Albrecht von Brandenburg - December 28, 2010 10:13 PM (GMT)
Here's a modern altar in a late-mediaeval Flemish style:

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Clare - December 28, 2010 10:20 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (ardmacha @ Dec 28 2010, 11:04 AM)
I wish that some of our "Traditionalist Altars" could look like some of these, instead of looking like shelves to support bits of lace and candlesticks. Traditional Catholics seems to like quantity rather than quality. The late Fr Ronald Silk wrote well about under-furnishing churches with a few beautiful things rather than stuffing them full of religious objects of varying quality.

Yes, as confederate posted, Jesus deserves the best, but sometimes the best we can actually achieve in particular circumstances won't be the actual objective best.

A mite was good enough for the widow, it was her best.

So I wouldn't be too upset at some SSPX Mass centres making do with more humble objects.

+ Albrecht von Brandenburg - December 29, 2010 12:06 AM (GMT)
Here's one, from the same craftsman, Davis d'Ambly, in the early Italian gothic style:

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+ Albrecht von Brandenburg - December 29, 2010 12:23 AM (GMT)
Here's another Flemish crucifixion:

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Now, I must go and, talking about things Flemish, celebrate St Thomas of Canterbury's feast day at the Belgian Beer Cafe.

AdoramusTe - December 29, 2010 12:32 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (+ Albrecht von Brandenburg @ Dec 29 2010, 01:06 AM)
Here's one, from the same craftsman, Davis d'Ambly, in the early Italian gothic style:

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Very beautiful, but why is the rearados so much larger than the altar? Why, the altar isn't even the size of the central pannel of the triptych!

+ Albrecht von Brandenburg - December 29, 2010 01:44 PM (GMT)
It's probably just intended for the reservation of the Blessed Sacrament.

+ Albrecht von Brandenburg - December 30, 2010 05:38 AM (GMT)
More from the USA, this time, the Dominican Church in NYC, St Vincent Ferrar. Here is the high altar:

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+ Albrecht von Brandenburg - December 30, 2010 05:51 AM (GMT)
Here is the friars' chapel.

Note the canopied stalls. Also note the hanging pyx, for the reservation of the Blessed Sacrament. Far better, IMHO, than tabernacles:

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Close-up of the pyx:

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+ Albrecht von Brandenburg - December 30, 2010 05:55 AM (GMT)
A side altar - the Rosary Altar:

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+ Albrecht von Brandenburg - December 30, 2010 06:07 AM (GMT)
Another side altar - St Joseph's:

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Here is St Patrick's:

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Here is the last side altar, Holy Name:

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Here is a view of the church from the chancel down the nave. You can see another set of choir stalls with two tiers. These would be used for the conventual mass, which would also be the main parish mass each day:

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TradCathYouth - December 30, 2010 06:11 PM (GMT)
Those altars are beautiful, especially the one in the Dominican church in NYC.

Berengaria - December 30, 2010 06:20 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (TradCathYouth @ Dec 30 2010, 06:11 PM)
Those altars are beautiful, especially the one in the Dominican church in NYC.

Yes!
It is a nice diversion to look at these. Thanks, Brandy!

+ Albrecht von Brandenburg - December 31, 2010 04:26 AM (GMT)
For the "primatial" cathedral of the USA, Mary Our Queen, Baltimore, they claim copyright in the pictures, so to see them, and it's well worth it, you'll have to go to the link. It's much better, I'm sorry to say, than Westminster Cathedral (not to mention St Patrick's NYC, although not as good as the Anglican cathedrals of NYC and Washington DC - but it's still, very, very good, and a worthy seat of the head of the US church). Unfortunately, the choir stalls are somewhat pedestrian and follow a typically Italian setting of being grouped around and behind the High Altar in an inverted U-shape, although this probably has something to do with the ridiculous post-Tridentine mania for getting rid of rood-screens:



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+ Albrecht von Brandenburg - December 31, 2010 05:07 AM (GMT)
Now for something really exceptional - a computer model of what the university collegiate church set up by my namesake looked like before the protestants got to it:



The Cathedral


AdoramusTe - December 31, 2010 01:43 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (+ Albrecht von Brandenburg @ Dec 31 2010, 06:07 AM)
Now for something really exceptional - a computer model of what the university collegiate church set up by my namesake looked like before the protestants got to it:



The Cathedral

Very nice Albrecht! If only history had been different...

+ Albrecht von Brandenburg - December 31, 2010 09:17 PM (GMT)
Here is a shot of the nave - the black and white altar panels are cartoons of the (now lost) colour finished products:

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+ Albrecht von Brandenburg - January 3, 2011 04:39 AM (GMT)
Now, back to the USA. The high altar of the Anglican National Cathedral in Washington, DC:

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+ Albrecht von Brandenburg - January 12, 2011 09:59 PM (GMT)
This one seemed to have disappeared. It's the d'Ambly Flemish crucifixion:

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+ Albrecht von Brandenburg - January 12, 2011 10:21 PM (GMT)
Here are some shots of altars by Sir (John) Ninian Comper, courtesy of Br Lawrence Lew, O.P. Just follow the link, it's not possible to copy the images from Flickr to Photobucket:



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Here, for example, from another location, is one of Comper's altars (Wymondham Abbey):

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+ Albrecht von Brandenburg - January 13, 2011 11:13 AM (GMT)
Here's another Comper altar, viewed through the rood-screen:

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Up close, here's the central panel:

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Here's the left wing:

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Here's the right one:

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+ Albrecht von Brandenburg - January 29, 2011 10:49 AM (GMT)
High Altar of St Elisabeth's Cathedral, Kosice, Slovakia:

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Note the sacrament house for reservation of the Blessed Sacrament on the left hand side of the photograph.

+ Albrecht von Brandenburg - April 29, 2011 07:54 AM (GMT)
Not just the High Altar, but a complete re-construction of the choir and sanctuary of N-D de Paris (before the monstrous baroque "renovations"):


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Apostolic Seeker - April 29, 2011 08:21 PM (GMT)
Interesting reconstruction. You can clearly see that Comper and other High Church Anglicans have reused the Gothic style for altars.

I prefer these Gothic altars to the baroque and Neo-Gothic altars.

Another, more sober example:
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It's an altar from a Traditional Anglican chaplaincy in France, the priest made it himself.

Gregorio Sarto - April 29, 2011 08:38 PM (GMT)
...if I'm not mistaken that looks like Anthony Chadwick. A few years ago, he used to live not far from me in France, where he had an independent chapel. At other times he was with the Institue of Christ the King and a sedevacantist of some description before I suppose apostasing - he started describing himself as an Anglican. I hear in the days of his youth he went to the SSPX's London Mass centre...

Gregorio Sarto - April 29, 2011 08:42 PM (GMT)
Oh, I see he got married. Or "married" - who knows what the canonical status is.... just an example of everyhting that's wrong with Anglicanorum Coetibus...

+ Albrecht von Brandenburg - April 29, 2011 10:36 PM (GMT)
Hooray, married priests!

:thumbs: :thumbs: :thumbs: :thumbs: :thumbs: :thumbs: :thumbs:

Gregorio Sarto - April 29, 2011 11:04 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (+ Albrecht von Brandenburg @ Apr 29 2011, 10:36 PM)
Hooray, married priests!

:thumbs: :thumbs: :thumbs: :thumbs: :thumbs: :thumbs: :thumbs:

Using him as a mascot...?! :huh: I wouldn't advise it myself.

Besides, who knows where his orders were from...

+ Albrecht von Brandenburg - April 29, 2011 11:18 PM (GMT)
No doubt, the question of holy orders will be thoroughly investigated by the relevant office of the curia.

Gregorio Sarto - April 29, 2011 11:30 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (+ Albrecht von Brandenburg @ Apr 29 2011, 11:18 PM)
No doubt, the question of holy orders will be thoroughly investigated by the relevant office of the curia.

...and once that's done, they'll be able to get an idea as to the status of the 'marriage'... :wh:




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