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Adesto - March 16, 2008 11:39 AM (GMT)
From bbc.co.uk//news



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Call to restrict smoking scenes
Rowan Bridge
BBC News, Liverpool

An anti-smoking group in Liverpool is calling for all movies with smoking scenes to be given an 18 certificate.

SmokeFree Liverpool told BBC's Radio 5 Live it wanted to see the change but the film classification board said the idea was "heavy-handed".

The push - backed by the city council - comes amid research showing young people pick up the bad habit from watching films containing smoking.

One city official said Liverpool may even act alone to restrict film access.

Andy Hull, the city's head of public protection and chair of SmokeFree Liverpool, said an adult rating on movies that depict smoking will reduce the number of young people lighting up.

"The international evidence...is that one in two children between 11 and 18 who witness smoking in movies actually experiment with - and therefore start - smoking themselves," Mr Hull said of recent research.

Liverpool already carries the unenviable title of lung cancer capital of England, with some of the highest smoking rates in the UK.

Not popular

Mr Hull said Liverpool wants the British Board of Film Classification to act.

But a spokeswoman for the film board said smoking and alcohol use are already taken into consideration when a film is rated and a blanket 18 certificate for all smoking scenes is "heavy handed".

"To simply classify a film 18 because people smoke in it would not be popular with the public," the spokeswoman said, adding an extensive public consultation has already examined the issue to come up with existing guidelines.

For example, if a character popular with children such as Harry Potter was somehow promoting cigarettes or seen smoking, the film would be rated accordingly, she said.

"We would take that very seriously," she added.

Dr Stacey Anderson, of the UK Centre for Tobacco Control Studies, said the evidence of smoking's influence on young people is very clear.


I think to simply classify a film 18 because people smoke in it would not be popular with the public
British Board of Film Classification spokeswoman

"The more smoking a child views in films, the more likely they are to take up smoking," she said of the scientific evidence gathered in the United States and elsewhere.

Dr Anderson said characters do not even have to be smoking for there to be an adverse influence, just the sight of a pack of cigarettes or a tobacco advertisement has an effect on youth attitude.

She said if part of the role of the film board is to protect young people from potential harm, then smoking should be included in those considerations.

Mr Hull said if the BBFC is not prepared to adopt an 18 certificate then the city will consider using licensing laws to bring in its own stricter ratings for films screened locally.



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Pilgrimage of Grace - March 16, 2008 11:48 AM (GMT)
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Posted by Adesto
The push - backed by the city council - comes amid research showing young people pick up the bad habit from watching films containing ...

... vulgarity, immoral language and behaviour, gratuitous violence &c.

I wouldn't mind if they applied the banning standard across the board for those things that will really cause people to suffer - for eternity.

Clare - March 16, 2008 03:12 PM (GMT)
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Admin - March 16, 2008 07:55 PM (GMT)
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Andy Hull, the city's head of public protection and chair of SmokeFree Liverpool, said an adult rating on movies that depict smoking will reduce the number of young people lighting up.

"The international evidence...is that one in two children between 11 and 18 who witness smoking in movies actually experiment with - and therefore start - smoking themselves," Mr Hull said of recent research.


What a complete load of rubbish! :sm:

Nulli Secundus - March 16, 2008 08:19 PM (GMT)
Smoking (cigars and pipes - not rubbish brand cigarettes) is a good Catholic pastime.

Blessed Pius IX (I am told) and St. Pius X smoked - therefore I will go in the company of the saints! :D

Clare - March 16, 2008 08:21 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Nulli Secundus @ Mar 16 2008, 08:19 PM)
Smoking (cigars and pipes - not rubbish brand cigarettes) is a good Catholic pastime.

Blessed Pius IX (I am told) and St. Pius X smoked - therefore I will go in the company of the saints! :D

Take a butcher's at our Smoking Poll, Nulli. :)

Flick - March 16, 2008 08:39 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Clare @ Mar 16 2008, 10:12 AM)
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The Betrothed by Rudyard Kipling

"You must choose between me and your cigar."

-- Breach of Promise Case, Circa 1885

Open the old cigar-box, get me a Cuba stout,
For things are running crossways, and Maggie and I are out.
We quarrelled about Havanas -- we fought o'er a good cheroot,
And I knew she is exacting, and she says I am a brute.

Open the old cigar-box -- let me consider a space;
In the soft blue veil of the vapour musing on Maggie's face.
Maggie is pretty to look at -- Maggie's a loving lass,
But the prettiest cheeks must wrinkle, the truest of loves must pass.
There's peace in a Larranaga, there's calm in a Henry Clay;
But the best cigar in an hour is finished and thrown away –

Open the old cigar-box -- let me consider anew --
Old friends, and who is Maggie that I should abandon you?
A million surplus Maggies are willing to bear the yoke;
And a woman is only a woman, but a good Cigar is a Smoke.
Light me another Cuba -- I hold to my first-sworn vows.
If Maggie will have no rival, I'll have no Maggie for Spouse!

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