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 The Official Genesis Discussion Topic, Thread 2
smurfslayer
Posted: Nov 27 2006, 10:23 AM


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Crystalli

How do you wish to advance technology? Choose two.
B) Improve an existing item with the current resources available.
F) Wrap saved pieces of meat in leaves, to preserve them longer and protect them from infection.

How do you wish to further our culture? Choose two.
A) Enhance the written language by developing a ‘feel’ for it.
E) Create a ritual for the dead, so that we may honour them.

What do you wish to do? Choose two.
B) Prepare a training regime to promote fitness and health among Krystallos Paidia.
C) Focus on increasing our population, expanding our territory as well.

Which objects do you wish to invent? Choose two.
A) Tie pieces of Keelschka Sinew to long pieces of flexible Klushri branches, to create extremely primitive bows.
F) Stick together multiple layers of bark with tree sap, to create a primitive bark armour.

Which prey do you want the Timaeus, Critias, and Vexeni to specialize in hunting? Choose two.
A) Jagger Flies.
B) Wyym.
C) Keelschka.

What tactics do you want the Timaeus, Critias, and Vexeni to hunt with? Choose two.
A) Aggressive and offensive, to kill the prey as fast as possible.
B) Stealthy and quiet, to surprise the prey.

What is your next step in the possible war? Choose two.
B) Keep the defense strong, and stock up one resources and supplies.
C) Send large war parties to search for any immediate threats.

Xivai

How do you wish to advance technology? Choose two.
A) Try assembling a new item with the current resources available.
D) Start scarring the Ysugtha shelters and allowing them to methodically heal, to increase their defence.

How do you wish to further our culture? Choose two.
B) Develop a highly organized method of sacrifice for the Unspeakable.
E) Create a religious holy day.

What do you wish to do? Choose two.
C) Maintain the defensive perimeter and supply it, so that the warriors stationed there don’t have to return to hunt.
E) Create a special Ysugtha chamber for the Geryon to dwell in.

Where do you wish to gather supplies and resources? Choose two.
B) In the area around the volcanic vents, on the borders of our territory.
D) In the area just outside the labyrinths.

Which do the Xivai value more – quality or quantity?
A) Quality.

What is your next step in this war?
A) All out war, sending most or all of our warriors to raid their territory.


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Gamgee
Posted: Nov 27 2006, 10:43 AM


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Um smurfy the Xivai may like battle but we arnt idiots. Blundering in like that would be a bad thing to do for any race even on earth.

If we let them make the first move it will allow us to gather more supplies and also allow us to counter effectivly. Then if the counter goes well we can continue the advance.


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Twitchmonkey
Posted: Nov 27 2006, 01:09 PM


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QUOTE (OathinBlood @ Nov 27 2006, 11:09 AM)
The Xivai
Species: Xivai

How do you wish to advance technology? Choose two.
B) Improve an existing item with the current resources available.
E) Attach a Bain net to the wall and put Grapu in it, to form a small cage containing live food.

How do you wish to further our culture? Choose two.
A) Create a story about fighting techniques, to pass on to future generations.
B) Develop a highly organized method of sacrifice for the Unspeakable.

What do you wish to do? Choose two.
C) Maintain the defensive perimeter and supply it, so that the warriors stationed there don’t have to return to hunt.
D) Focus on increasing our population, expanding our territory as well.

Where do you wish to gather supplies and resources? Choose two.
B) In the area around the volcanic vents, on the borders of our territory.
C) In the area past the Ysugtha growths.

Which do the Xivai value more – quality or quantity?
A) Quality.

Create one or more prayers or rituals. If it is generally agreed upon, it will be accepted.

What is your next step in this war?
E) Send an envoy to make negotiations to the Veznisk Mekkerac.
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Choice one:

Okay, if we're going to focus on quality over quantity we'll want to be developing our weapons instead of making new ones, which I think we're due for. Developing nets to catch food will not only feed the increased population I'll talk about later, but also keep the defensive perimeter from having to return to hunt.

Choice two:

Simply a balance between religion and fighting. I think that's neccesary. The Nameless won't bless us unless we can shed blood of our own volition.

Choice three:

We might have a war on our hands. Forcing our defensive perimeter to shift around is a definite weak point and I don't want it. The increased population would just be to make the Veznisk more intimidated and supply more soldiers if neccesary.

Choice 4:

I think it's best we avoid provoking the Veznisk further. We've shown them we mean business, let's just wait it out.

Choice 5:

Obviously we value quality over quantity, otherwise we would'nt be so devoted to rooting out the weak.

Choice 6:

We've shown the Veznisk our power. There is still time to unite as one and if we go on fighting we blow that chance. For every envoy they destroy there will be great rammifications, but there is still hope.
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OathinBlood
Posted: Nov 27 2006, 03:00 PM


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Twitch and Sjvan get fifteen hundred awesome-juice boxes for their reasoning.


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Twitchmonkey
Posted: Nov 27 2006, 03:41 PM


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QUOTE (OathinBlood @ Nov 27 2006, 11:00 PM)
Twitch and Sjvan get fifteen hundred awesome-juice boxes for their reasoning.

Awesome.

Remember, if we try to war against then before exhausting all other possibilities, then whether we win or lose, we lose, because some of our xiva die and we don't gain anything but territory. However, if we convert the Veznisk to our way of thinking, whether it be through diplomacy, isolated attacks to promote fear, or a wholesale slaughter to rid ourselves of the Veznisk that won't ally with us, we will gain new allies with new skills and different technology.

As for how to approach this at this point, the way I see it is this, if you got into a fight with someone and they tried to push you down and you just knocked them on their ass for trying, what would be more effective, to start getting what you want from them right then, or to wait a week for the fear to wear off and then try to approach them? Obviously, we want to have our attack fresh on their minds when trying to get them to do something for us. Spying on them will just put us at more of a strategic advantage if we want to war with them, which don't right now. I also think with the defensive perimeter we already have adequate defenses against them should they try anything.
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Calchexas
Posted: Nov 27 2006, 04:35 PM


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Hmm I love you Oath...

How do you wish to advance technology? Choose two.
C) Gather more supplies and resources.
F) Wrap saved pieces of meat in leaves, to preserve them longer and protect them from infection.

How do you wish to further our culture? Choose two.
A) Enhance the written language by developing a ‘feel’ for it.
D) Develop a name for the written language.


What do you wish to do? Choose two.
C) Focus on increasing our population, expanding our territory as well.
D) Ask to speak to Jinu Nasitoma’s Allasora again.


Which objects do you wish to invent? Choose two.
A) Tie pieces of Keelschka Sinew to long pieces of flexible Klushri branches, to create extremely primitive bows.
F) Stick together multiple layers of bark with tree sap, to create a primitive bark armour.

Which prey do you want the Timaeus, Critias, and Vexeni to specialize in hunting? Choose two.
C) Keelschka.
D) Galoom.


What tactics do you want the Timaeus, Critias, and Vexeni to hunt with? Choose two.
B) Stealthy and quiet, to surprise the prey.
C) Organized, with a lot of formations and shapes.


What is your next step in the possible war? Choose two.
A) Search for any sign of the attackers, but only within fifty metres of the territory edges.
B) Keep the defense strong, and stock up one resources and supplies.
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BodhiBloodWave
Posted: Nov 28 2006, 02:49 AM


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The Crystalli

How do you wish to advance technology? Choose two.

C) Gather more supplies and resources.
F) Wrap saved pieces of meat in leaves, to preserve them longer and protect them from infection.

Well enough reasoned already

How do you wish to further our culture? Choose two.

A) Enhance the written language by developing a ‘feel’ for it.
E) Create a ritual for the dead, so that we may honour them.

Honoring the dead seems like an wise thing to do, so is working on our written language

What do you wish to do? Choose two.

B) Prepare a training regime to promote fitness and health among Krystallos Paidia.
C) Focus on increasing our population, expanding our territory as well.

Larger numbers and better trained seems like an good option before a war

Which objects do you wish to invent? Choose two.

C) Break and shape pieces of rock to develop sharp scrapers, for hideworking or woodworking purposes.
F) Stick together multiple layers of bark with tree sap, to create a primitive bark armour.

Combined these two might help make a more effective armor aswell as the hideworking aspect might let us quicker invent an armor of hide

Which prey do you want the Timaeus, Critias, and Vexeni to specialize in hunting? Choose two.

C) Keelschka.
D) Galoom.

One seems to be a threat to some of our younger ones so seems like a good target to weaken, it also seems to have some meat. The other as somebody has already mentioned might help us start being more observant due to learning to see thrue their camo.

What tactics do you want the Timaeus, Critias, and Vexeni to hunt with? Choose two.

B) Stealthy and quiet, to surprise the prey.
C) Organized, with a lot of formations and shapes.

These two will make for an intresting and hopefully effective tactic for fighting, they should also be somewhat usefull outside of hunting aswell as we learn to organize better

What is your next step in the possible war? Choose two.
A) Search for any sign of the attackers, but only within fifty metres of the territory edges.
B) Keep the defense strong, and stock up one resources and supplies.

A strong defense seems like an good start, as is looking for enemies using our new hunting tactics. Combined with the focus on larger numbers in an earlier vote we also push our borders further outward in a secure manner

The Xivai

How do you wish to advance technology? Choose two.
B) Improve an existing item with the current resources available.
D) Start scarring the Ysugtha shelters and allowing them to methodically heal, to increase their defence.

Both these works nicely in our 'quality over quantity' view, and it never hurts to keep improving our homes

How do you wish to further our culture? Choose two.
A) Create a story about fighting techniques, to pass on to future generations.
B) Develop a highly organized method of sacrifice for the Unspeakable.

This seems like a good balance as somebody else has already mentioned and maybe some will strive even harder to prove themselves in the hope of having a story about them sometime

What do you wish to do? Choose two.

C) Maintain the defensive perimeter and supply it, so that the warriors stationed there don’t have to return to hunt.
D) Focus on increasing our population, expanding our territory as well.

A good combination for securing our territory and keeping the borders strong

Where do you wish to gather supplies and resources? Choose two.

B) In the area around the volcanic vents, on the borders of our territory.
D) In the area just outside the labyrinths.

This seems like the most intresting spots to gather new supplies from and maybe encounter new creatures

Which do the Xivai value more – quality or quantity?

A) Quality.

Others have explained this more then well enough

Create one or more prayers or rituals. If it is generally agreed upon, it will be accepted.

*looks to the left then the right* Not something i usually say, but in this case i'll agree with whatever ritual or prayer Gamgee comes up with as he seems to have a knack at times for this sorta thing

What is your next step in this war?

B) Stay silent, and instead have the Melchias watch their actions.

A lot can be learned about an enemy by watching him, also by keeping an eye on the situation we will also be able to properly see what and how our 'harbinger of death' does

and finally, Its nice to be back here, i managed to loose the addy for a while
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Posted: Nov 28 2006, 03:27 AM


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The Xivai

How do you wish to advance technology? Choose two.
B) Improve an existing item with the current resources available.
E) Attach a Bain net to the wall and put Grapu in it, to form a small cage containing live food.

How about slitting the flesh of Ysugtha similar to how a fish is filleted, and putting carne shell in the slits.?

How do you wish to further our culture? Choose two.
A) Create a story about fighting techniques, to pass on to future generations.
E) Create a religious holy day.

How about this: a holy day commemorating a great battle, which took place at a time when the volcanic vents were at their most powerful. The story behind the holy day would tell of a squad of great warriors, which, by working perfectly in sync with each other and using *insert techniques*, were able to slaughter dozens/hundreds/thousands of *insert enemy* and barely survive the battle. But they had been mortally wounded, and as their final action, they swam into the Unspeakable's abyss, sacrificing themselves to the Glorious Terror. Now, when the volcanic vents are at their most powerful, the battle is recreated, with the weakest young acting as *insert enemy*.

What do you wish to do? Choose two.
C) Maintain the defensive perimeter and supply it, so that the warriors stationed there don’t have to return to hunt.
D) Focus on increasing our population, expanding our territory as well.

See Twitch's reasoning

Where do you wish to gather supplies and resources? Choose two.
B) In the area around the volcanic vents, on the borders of our territory.
D) In the area just outside the labyrinths.

The area around the volcanic vents would be more likely to have obsidian shards lying around, while the area just outside the labyrinths will be likely to have more food.

Which do the Xivai value more – quality or quantity?
A) Quality.

Create one or more prayers or rituals. If it is generally agreed upon, it will be accepted.

How about cutting off a small section of our exoskeleton, and placing it in the sacrifice area?

What is your next step in this war?
E) Send an envoy to make negotiations to the Veznisk Mekkerac.
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Twitchmonkey
Posted: Nov 28 2006, 01:54 PM


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So does that mean we now have a tie between spying and making negotiations? I guess Oath will have to choose for us then, don't screw us, Oath.
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For the prayer or ritual how about we..... hold a contest between two of the weakest warriors. The winner gets another chance to serve the loser gets his blood spilled in the arena.

Sound good? It was a fast hastey idea.


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Twitchmonkey
Posted: Nov 28 2006, 04:12 PM


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QUOTE (Gamgee @ Nov 28 2006, 11:55 PM)
For the prayer or ritual how about we..... hold a contest between two of the weakest warriors. The winner gets another chance to serve the loser gets his blood spilled in the arena.

Sound good? It was a fast hastey idea.

How about the loser dies and the winner gets sacrificed to the Nameless? It's far more honorable than just being killed and that way we don't have to deal with having another weak xiva around.
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How about, after one session's worth of egg-laying by the Geryon, all the newborn Xivai fight in a no-holds-barred brawl, which veteran warriors watch. Those that do very well are given special attention, those that do alright will be promoted to warriors, and any that do less than that are usually dead anyways. If not, they are used as fodder in wars.


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Twitchmonkey
Posted: Nov 28 2006, 05:06 PM


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QUOTE (OathinBlood @ Nov 29 2006, 12:59 AM)
How about, after one session's worth of egg-laying by the Geryon, all the newborn Xivai fight in a no-holds-barred brawl, which veteran warriors watch. Those that do very well are given special attention, those that do alright will be promoted to warriors, and any that do less than that are usually dead anyways. If not, they are used as fodder in wars.

Sounds alright. Makes good entertainment too.
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QUOTE (OathinBlood @ Nov 29 2006, 10:59 AM)
How about, after one session's worth of egg-laying by the Geryon, all the newborn Xivai fight in a no-holds-barred brawl, which veteran warriors watch. Those that do very well are given special attention, those that do alright will be promoted to warriors, and any that do less than that are usually dead anyways. If not, they are used as fodder in wars.

Its not a bad idea, but its not really a religious ritual or prayer, and more part of the training regime. I was thinking more soemthing along the lines of a daily ritual/prayer, similar to how some people say grace before eating.

Since the Xivai already give their pain to The Presence, then cutting out a small piece of exoskeleton would be a logical next step
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Twitchmonkey
Posted: Nov 28 2006, 05:19 PM


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QUOTE (Seb (sjvan0) @ Nov 29 2006, 01:08 AM)
Its not a bad idea, but its not really a religious ritual or prayer, and more part of the training regime. I was thinking more soemthing along the lines of a daily ritual/prayer, similar to how some people say grace before eating.

Since the Xivai already give their pain to The Presence, then cutting out a small piece of exoskeleton would be a logical next step

I don't know about the prayer thing, it seems too christain/catholic, and the Xivai are most certainly neither of those. I like the second part though. It creates more room for future implants.
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Seb (sjvan0)
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QUOTE (Twitchmonkey @ Nov 29 2006, 11:19 AM)
QUOTE (Seb (sjvan0) @ Nov 29 2006, 01:08 AM)
Its not a bad idea, but its not really a religious ritual or prayer, and more part of the training regime. I was thinking more soemthing along the lines of a daily ritual/prayer, similar to how some people say grace before eating.

Since the Xivai already give their pain to The Presence, then cutting out a small piece of exoskeleton would be a logical next step

I don't know about the prayer thing, it seems too christain/catholic, and the Xivai are most certainly neither of those. I like the second part though. It creates more room for future implants.

That's what I meant with the removal of a small bit of exoskeleton: something that can be done in a daily/weekly pattern.
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How about flesh instead? Flesh grows back, and it will help with the scarring. Exoskeleton does not grow back, so old Xivai would be naked as Twitch's nudist mother.


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Twitchmonkey
Posted: Nov 28 2006, 06:29 PM


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Small bits of exoskeleton (maybe 1/4" x 1/4"?) could be removed on a monthly basis to make room for implants? That's be 3" a year, 1' every 4 years. Sure, the oldest of Xivai would be bare at the end of their lives, but what good are they on the battlefield anyhow? Plus, once we get more implants going it's be a great place to put them.
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Seb (sjvan0)
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QUOTE (OathinBlood @ Nov 29 2006, 12:14 PM)
How about flesh instead? Flesh grows back, and it will help with the scarring. Exoskeleton does not grow back, so old Xivai would be naked as Twitch's nudist mother.

But isn't the flesh beneath the exoskeleton?
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OathinBlood
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Most of it yes, but there are exposed areas.

Check it out, the formatting mostly done - http://www.sporewiki.com/Content:Xivai


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