Title: Duel Bet.
Description: Yeah, you heard it right.
Kage - September 19, 2005 07:41 PM (GMT)
I was thinking that maybe, before a duel, you could take a bet on who wins. I though that, those that dont want to duel, could do this instead, earning money in a different way. I dont really have a clue on how it will work, but I like the idea.
So, who is with me? *Raises hand and hope those that agrees with him raises hands too*
Nash - September 19, 2005 10:24 PM (GMT)
Hmm sounds possible. I don't see any flaws in this one except setting the amount since I think there should be some limit. But anyway, I'm for it.
Pesmerga - September 20, 2005 02:55 AM (GMT)
Yeah, I like the idea. I'll try to think of something tonight.
Geddoe - October 17, 2006 07:01 PM (GMT)
*one year and a month later* Hum de dee dum... he finished yet? SONNOVA-!
There we go.
Well, yeeeeeeeeaaaaaaaah... I was bored and instead of studying for my test as I should have been, I did something I stopped doing a year and one month ago.
Well, basically, since this is way harder than do from normal duels, I have decided to do something else. I will just set up some rules for the duel betting, instead of setting up the system.
1. Whatever you bet, it must atleast be ¼ and the max to be ¾ from what the duelists bets.
2. If you lose, you lose everything you bet. If you win, you get everyone’s else bets.
3. During the duel, you can raise or lower what you bet. Just remember, after one duelist lost his half HP, the betting stops for that duel.
4. If it should be in some way a miraculous draw, then you get double back.
5. If we found out that you somehow cheated on all this, your betting doesn’t apply and you lose twice what you bet.
6. If there happens to only be you that is the one that bets, you get 2x of what you bet, just to be nice. -Only works if you win, zomg-
7. Don’t be an ass if you lose. It isn’t anyone’s fault and you should know that.
[s]Done by: Geddoe.[/s]
So, uh, what does everyone think? I am open for comments/suggestions/hating/cuteness of me/complain. AND WE CAN ALL DANCE!... Maybe not >_>
Luc - October 17, 2006 07:09 PM (GMT)
Take away the double money if you are the only one that bets.
Other than that, I like it. ^_^
Kraze - October 17, 2006 08:02 PM (GMT)
Yeah that does seem kinda strange. But yeah, other than point 6, everything looks good to me.
Geddoe - October 17, 2006 08:44 PM (GMT)
Actually, I realized my mistake on the sixth one, cause I forgot to say that it would ONLY include if you WON the duel bet.
Otherwise, you lose the money. =)
Luca Blight - October 18, 2006 02:26 AM (GMT)
I don't like it.
It's free money for doing nothing, for one. At least with a duel you're required to make an IC post.
Second - you can't do a single thing to prevent people from cheating or the duelists from intentionally throwing a match so their friend can win some money.
Maybe I'm just a little pessimistic about people in general, but that's what I see when I think of this idea.
Georg Prime - October 18, 2006 02:39 AM (GMT)
This could work, if it was mapped out right. But I don't think it's been planned out thoroughly enough for it to work.
Perhaps you could sponsor a duelist, so that if they lose you lose money, and any "aiding in the betting" would have you fined harshly. I dunno really though :uhh:.
Flik - October 19, 2006 01:38 PM (GMT)
Pesmerga died don't forget.
I still like this idea. I do think the double idea should go though. I would personally like it if bets can only be placed before the second round too.
Chaco - October 20, 2006 02:19 PM (GMT)
I think this could turn out good. If only the judge is to monitor the betting and he monitors the betting well. That's only my opinion. Besides, easy money.
Wyatt Lightfellow - November 12, 2007 10:22 PM (GMT)
This was touched on briefly in the dueling discussion thread, but what are our thoughts about finally getting this off the ground and running for those who wish to participate? I was thinking it might be fun and nice to have in place as we begin the tournament.
I'm pretty much all for it, but like Nash mentioned before, perhaps a limit to bets would be appropriate.
Is there any more discussion or concerns regarding this? Kage, do you think this can be put together somehow in the dueling forum?
Kage - November 12, 2007 11:45 PM (GMT)
I think I could get this into the dueling forum, but it needs tweaking first. LOTS of tweaking. Give me until tomorrow and I'll have something cooked up. :]
Oh, McDohl or if anyone else want to help, please send me a PM or something along those lines. <3
Wyatt Lightfellow - November 24, 2007 09:42 PM (GMT)
How's this coming, Kage?
Let me know if you need any help getting it hammered out.
Kage - November 24, 2007 11:26 PM (GMT)
Ever wanted to bet on an epic duel, per say, Hazuki vs. Belcoot? McDohl vs. Riou? Viktor vs. Flik?
Well then, with this system, you’re welcome to bet in any duel, as long the judge is willing to allow it.
First and foremost, there can only be a definite number when you wager. You may not wager higher or lower than the judge agree on. In example, if Kage say that the wager on this duel is 1500 potch, then everyone who wants to bet must cash in 1500 potch. Not more or less. This creates fairness for everyone.
For Judges: You may only wager from 500-10000 potch. It all depends on how much the Duellists bets on their own fight.
Those that made the right choice and picked the winner, gets to split the potch between them. Of course, if there is only ONE person, then knock yourself out with that potch.
Those who lose, lose the potch.
If it is a [i]draw[/i], the everyone gets to keep their potch.
Also, if there is only ONE person who is betting, that person gets 1.5 or nothing back from what he/she bet. You have to make some kind of profit IF you’re alone on it, right?
[This section is still under production and may change whenever it seems fit.]
[s]Done by Kage.[/s]
Any changes or are you still unhappy about receiving something when you're alone betting on a duel? Hm?
Oh and thanks for the offer Wyatt. I'll like to see the thoughts on this first before we move into discussion. :'D
Wyatt Lightfellow - November 27, 2007 05:01 PM (GMT)
Sure. That's understandable.
I like the changes that have been made. We'll give this a few more days and see if anyone else has an opinion on it, I guess.
McDohl - December 4, 2007 06:22 AM (GMT)
I like the changes and believe they're fair. This should be added to the rules of dueling immediately in my opinion.
Wyatt Lightfellow - December 12, 2007 09:27 PM (GMT)
Alright. This has been posted up for some time now with not much in the way of discussion. Therefore, we'll post it up with the rules and put it into practice to see how it all works out with the dueling system.