Colonel Viper24's Classroom

Welcome to X-302 101. I will be your teacher and listen up! If you want to sign up put your name on my list.

I'll sign up! I've been waiting in line for a class for a while now!

I'll sign up too

Count me in too!

When does it start?
@-)

And what materials should we bring??

Hey Viper, good idea. It's about time we had some class around here.

Don't tell me I have to start paying tuition for this one. I'm still paying back my college loans and I've been out for 9 years.

Fortunately, I think tuition is covered. Only, next time you get a promotion, your paychecks my not bounce up as far...

As for things to bring to class, just bring your minds and your attention to what I'm going to teach you. I still need a few more people to join before I start the class. Try to get some NCO people in here as well. That is all!

If no one else signs up soon I'll start the class this Fri at 8 in the morning Pacific time.

And what is that GMT time?

I'll sign up for the class but someone will have to take notes for me.

Don't worry I'll take notes for you, jaffa

Well, 8am Pacific time is 11am my time, so that would make it 4pm your time!

I'll go by your calculations. Just so you know there will be some aviation history questions that you will be graded on. I'll try to keep them simple.

Cool,
I'll try to be here, but I don't know if it'll overun a lecture, but i'll check in ASAP on Friday,
@-)

Well, 8am Pacific time is 11am my time, so that would make it 4pm your time!

Ok, I should be on around that time but only for about 45 minutes because I then have to go to work

Thanks! I've got class from 8:30 till 4:30 Fri.

Thanks! I've got class from 8:30 till 4:30 Fri.

We'll be able to play tag then, I'll take notes for the pair of us from 4 till you get here, hopefully before 4:45 and then you can take notes for us from then onwards

Thanks! I've got class from 8:30 till 4:30 Fri.

We'll be able to play tag then, I'll take notes for the pair of us from 4 till you get here, hopefully before 4:45 and then you can take notes for us from then onwards

If it helps, I'll be here the whole time! So everyone can always rely on my notes. Oh no, I'm not good at taking notes!

I'm sure we'll be able to read them

OK so we're both here, where's the Colonel??

Agreed and my laptop battery has only half an hour before it cuts out.

Again?? You really should get a back up or something!! Where is the Colonel?? I'm quite sick still and would love to lay down if he cancels.

I know I should but I can't be bothered.

I'm so sorry for being late guys! I just got out of the debrief. I had an AE that needed attention (Air Emergency). A U.S. rook in an F-16 had a bird strike in the engine and I was the only one up so I had to help him get back. The bird went through the opening and almost tore apart the fan blades that could have sent him back down to Earth... the hard way. As for the lession here it is.

Today I'm going to do the basics just in case anyone doesn't know what I'm talking about. First, if you push the joystick forward you will go down. If you pull it back you will go up. If you move it to the left you will go left. Same thing for the right. The one thing that you must always watch for when you're flying is your speed, altitude, and attitude. And yes I did say "attitude". Your feels are going to be your main way of flying. You need to stay at the top of your game but don't get too cocky. I've seen many Rooks and Aces get killed because of this. Basic flight manuevers: S-turns, barrel rolls, loops, tail slides, stall slides, ect. All of these will help you survive and get the kill on the enemy before he gets you. Studies have shown that if a pilot can survive his/her first 10 combat missions then he/she will most likely survive for their entire career. I fly the F-16 Falcon and it is one of the worlds best fighter aircraft. Tuesday I will begin combat manuevers and how to kill your opponent. There is homework down below. Please send it to my Email here on this site or on Scifi.com. Have a good first day of class!


What I want to see know from you is a little "combat summary". Choose any aircraft in the world from any time period and tell me at least 3 facts that help it out in a combat situation.

*Runs into class*
Sorry i'm late! Got caught up in a lecture ,
*Reads through notes*

I've seen most of those manuvers, 'cept the S-turn, which one's that?
@-)

Uh, when do we get our homework graded and returned??

I'll grade and return them when I get them. I wonder if I should accept late work?

Aww, be nice! You were late and we still accepted the homework!! Although, that never works in real life. A teacher would be late and give you extra work because he/she is irriatated!! Glad I'm not in school anymore.

Lucky you !
@-)

Indeed

Aww don't worry I was just joking around! O kay I have a lot of time today so I'm going to do the lession today so listen up!

Okay, todays lession is combat manuevers. I'll be going over some easy and basic ones and maybe a few difficult ones to. First off, stall slides. Stall slides are a easy but can be a very dangerous manuever, what you want to do is have the enemy behind you and have a large amount of thrust in order to do this right and not get yourself killed. Like I was saying, the enemy is behid you and what you need to do is pull a hard 90 degree turn up. Make sure that you have plenty of altitude and pull back the throttle to about 10 or 5%. Just as you're about to stall push the nose forward and head for the deck (ground) when you have just enough speed to level out do it. But before you do all that you need to have your opponent almost right on your tail. When you do this he/she should still be going up while you're going down and building your momentum back up. By about this time he/she should be in a stall or just getting out of it. This is your chance to take out the enemy very easily.

S-Turns: S-turns is a fast and a very easy way to get behind the enemy and it is quite simple. All you need to do is a few high paced turns. All you do is pull up and to the left and continue doing that for about 3 seconds and then make a hard and slow right turn towards the ground. For some strange reason some fighter jocks think that the faster you go the more you will be able to turn. This is not the case. When you slow down as you're making the hard right, the enemy should come up on your right and go pass you. Which in turn makes you able to make the kill.

I think everyone knows what barrel rolls and loops are so I'm not going to go in to those.

Tail slides: Tail slides are basically the same as a stall slide except that when you're about to stall had left or right rudder so that you make the body of the plane slide over instead of wipping it to the front. It's easier to do this than the stall slide but just as dangerious.

Anything that you saw in the movies like Top Gun or anything like that is totally false except for a few things. That thing that "Mav" pulled to make his plane pull up and over his opponent is not physically possible in the real world. If you tried that with me all I'd have to do is switch from missles to guns and hose you down with a 30mm cannon.

This concludes todays lession. I'll try for another lession on Fri. Have fun and Godspeed.

Awesome class, Colonel! I didn't know any of that stuff...or watched any air force movies either for that matter.

I hope we'll be informed at a later date as to when to come Friday!!

The next lession will be Fri @ noon.

Your time, Colonel or mine??

Mine. Pacific. That's the time code we'll use for these lessions.

Got it, I'll be here!!

I won't be, I'll be at work

Cool lesson sir!

When do we get to put these manuvers into action and try out the simulator? *Looks hopeful*

@-)

First off I wish to say that I'm sorry that I wasn't here on friday but I had a family emergency out in CA.


For todays lession I will do a small section and they''re everybodys favorite topic... weapons.

I'll be talking about a few weapons on fighters that we use today.

Chaff- Metal particles ejected from aircraft as decoys for radar seeking missles

Flares- Basic its what it says. Used as decoys to distract heat seeking missles.

AIM9 Sidewinder- Short range Air-to-air missle. Heat seeking. Only way to avoid it is to use flares to trick it away. Small and fast.

AIM7 Sparrow- Medium Range Air-to-Air missle. Radar seeking missle. Only way to avoid is to use chaff.

AIM54 Phoenix- Long range air-to-air missle. Radar seeking. Chaff is only way to dodge.

AMRAAM- Advanced Medium Range Air-to-Air Missle. Radar seeking. Chaff is the only way to decoy it away from you.

AGM88A HARM- (High-speed-Anti-Radiation-Missles) Used for destroying enemy SAM (Surface-to-Air-Missles) and AAA (Anti-Aircraft-Artillary) radar. Seeker head looks for radar emissions from enemy radar and destroys it.

JDAM- Joint Direct Attack Muninion. Air-to-Ground weapon. Receives satillite information for destroying specific target without civilian damage.

JSOW- Joint Stand Off Weapon. Multiple and/or different warheads can be used. Early model of JDAM. T.V. guided.

CB-67- Also known as the cluster bomb. Independant warheads. Before hitting ground it will launch several "pellets" of 50 lb explosives onto a target. Mostly used to destroy runways and airfields.

BLU-87- Air dropped 5 kiloton nuclear warhead. No way to dodge it when it is released (duh!). Most likely to be dropped by a B-1A Spirit bomber.

This for now. There will be more later.

First off, good morning everyone. Second, I have asked you all here because this is the part in you're training where you get your Call Signs. My actual call sign is Viper.

T.Rex- You are now Rex

Sggrl- You are now Striker

char_r_bird- You are now Sniper

jaffatech- You are now Flash

angeltrek- You are now Wings

contact- You are now Jester

Congradulations to all of you for staying this far in your training!

Thanks Viper!

Sorta weird you picked Flash for me cause I work with a guy named Flash. Cool though.

Thanks Viper, but can I ask why you choose Sniper for me?

Call signs are given out by your fellow pilots. It's sort of a nickname or part of your personality. I chose thoose names because I thought they best fitted you. If you think you need a name change then let me know ASAP!

So far I have only gotten 1 homework from only one person. When will you be able to turn it in to me?

In a few days

Good to hear!

Okay fellow pilots, lets see what you've got! Here's that link I was telling you about

http://www.bonus.com/bonus/nav/scooter/sco...w%2Ebonus%2Ecom

Are you sure this is the right link?
I keep comming up with a load of adverts and pop-ups.
@-)

Back!! Sorry I haven't been available here as of late. I am a bit more "free" now...so hopefully I can actually pay attention!! "Striker" huh? LOL Tis what my video game name was. Great pick, Colonel!

Sorry! I thought I did it right the first time. Go to www.bonus.com

Click on Action Games

Next, Click on Space Invasion

Scroll down to Radical Aces.

There you go.



Quick little lession.

I will briefly go over my aircraft with you.

If any of you who can't remember what I fly, I fly the F-16.

General Info:
Made orginally by General Dynamics (Bought by Lockheed Martin)
First Flight on 12/8/76
In Service: 3,500
Wing Type: Cropped Delta w/ 40 degree leading edge sweep and leading edge strakes.
Tail Type: Swept back, cantilevered surfaces w/ all-moving tailplanes.

Engines:
Type: F110-GE-100 (General Electric or GE get it?)
Max Trust: 29,000lbs

Dimensions:
Length: 49ft
Height: 16ft
Wingspan: 33ft
Wingarea: 300ft Squared
Empty Weight: 18,600lbs
Max Weight: 42,300lbs
Internal Fuel:7,162lbs
External Payload: 12,000lbs


There's that. That's all the info that's declassified that I can give you.

I forgot to give Tana a Call Sign. Sorry about that. I have the perfect one to. "Boss." How does that sound? It is a collective idea. I need to know what you all think. Thanks!

Where is everyone?

I'm here,
I think the others are around somewhere,
@-)

How come people haven't been showing up for class? And how come I've only received only 2 homework assignments from 2 people?

Where is everyone? I'm still going to do this flight lession. Here's the homework for tonite. It's really simple and you can post it here if you want.

What is America's Newest and most Advance fighter? Is it:
A.) RQ-11A "The Raven"
B.) F-22 Raptor
C.) F-35
D.) CV-22 "Ospry"

Hey Viper!

Is it the F-22 Raptor?
@-)

My guess is the F- 22 Raptor too. Sounds familiar.

Same here, very familiar

You are all... wrong! The correct answer is the new F-35. Made by Lockheed Martin. It has all the ablities of the F-22 (Ex: Stealth, Supercruise, ect.) except for a couple of things like: It can takeoff like a Harrier, it costs 1/3 of the price a Raptor, and this plane is made for ALL ARMED SERVICES! It's called the Joint Strike Fighter F-35 or JSF F-35. There are 3 different types and there are over 24 countries in line to buy this plane. It's really cool looking!

Huh,
Never expected that one !

You gotta pic?
@-)

I may and may not. Hmmm.. let me see I believe I do. Here it is. I also found a complete article on the aircraft. Enjoy!
http://www.airforce-technology.com/projects/jsf/jsf9.html
http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/sys...ly-variants.jpg
http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/sys.../x-35a-0269.jpg
http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/sys...-35c-0606_5.jpg





Military

* F-35 Joint Strike Fighter
* Joint Strike Fighter
* X-32 - Boeing JSF
* X-35 - Lockheed Martin JSF
* JSF Program Status
* JSF Specifications
* JSF References




F-35 Joint Strike Fighter (JSF)

On 26 October 2001 the Pentagon announced that Lockheed-Martin had won the largest military contract ever, a possible $200 billion competition to build the Joint Strike Fighter. Air Force Secretary Jim Roche said on the basis of strengths, weaknesses and degrees of risk of the program that the Lockheed-Martin team was the winner on a "best- value" basis. He said Lockheed-Martin was a clear winner over the team led by Boeing. Total cost of the contract to enter the systems development and demonstration phase is $19 billion. Pratt and Whitney has a $4 billion contract to design and build propulsion systems for the craft. The British will contribute $2 billion to the program.

Lockheed-Martin teamed with Northrop Grumman and British Aerospace on the project. Pete Aldridge, undersecretary of defense for acquisition, technology and logistics, said that both teams "met or exceeded the performance objectives established for the aircraft and have met the established criteria and technical maturity for entering the next phase of the program."

The Lockheed Martin X-35 was chosen over the competing Boeing X-32 primarily because of Lockheed's lift-fan STOVL design, which proved superior to the Boeing vectored-thrust approach. The lift fan, which is powered by the aircraft engine via a clutched driveshaft, was technically challenging but DoD concluded that Lockheed has the technology in hand. The lift fan has significant excess power which could be critical given the weight gain that all fighter aircraft experience.

Lockheed Martin Corp. is developing the F-35 at its fighter aircraft plant in Fort Worth, where the new stealth warplane is expected to provide about 9,000 jobs over the next three to four decades. Northrop Grumman Corp. is to build the F-35's center fuselage in California and BAE Systems the aft body in England.

The first operational Joint Strike Fighter, now designated as the F-35, is scheduled for delivery in fiscal 2008. The F-35 is actually a family of three aircraft designed to replace aircraft in the Air Force, Navy, Marine Corps and the British military. A total of 2,852 planes scheduled for delivery starting in 2008 for the US Air Force, Navy, Marine Corps, and a small number to the British Royal Navy. Other nations interested in participating in the program include the Netherlands, Belgium and Norway.

Plans call for the F-35 to be the world's premier strike aircraft through 2040, Aldridge said. "It will provide air- to-air capability second only to the F-22 air superiority fighter," he said. The plane will allow the Air Force forces to field an almost all-stealth fighter force by 2025. The Navy and Marine variants will be the first deployment of an "all-aspect" stealth airplane.

The Air Force's F-35A version of the craft is a conventional takeoff and landing airplane to replace the F- 16 Falcon and A-10 Thunderbolt II. It will partner with the F-22 Raptor. The Air Force plans to buy 1,763 of the aircraft. The Air Force JSF version is expected to cost about $37 million.

The Marine Corps, Royal Navy and Royal Air Force need and want a short takeoff and vertical landing aircraft, dubbed the F-35B. The Marines want 609 of the new aircraft to replace their AV-8B Harriers and F/A-18 Hornets. The British want 150 to replace Sea Harriers and GR.7 Tornado fighters.

The Navy's F-35C version of the plane is a carrier-based strike fighter to complement the F/A-18E/F Super Hornet. It will replace earlier versions of the F/A-18 as well as the A-6 Intruder, which already has left the inventory. The Navy plans to purchase 480 JSF aircraft.

The requirements of 1,763 strike fighters for the Air Force, 609 for the Marine Corps and 480 for the Navy have held steady since the 1997 Quadrennial Defense Review.

Current program estimates peg the recurring JSF unit flyaway costs at $37 million for the Air Force conventional takeoff and landing variant, $46 million for the Marine Corps short takeoff vertical landing variant and $48 million for the Navy carrier version, in 2002 dollars.

The Pentagon requested $3.4 billion for JSF development in fiscal year 2003, up from $1.5 billion in FY2002. The planned budget is $3.8 billion in fiscal 2004, $5.7 billion in 2005 and $5.7 billion in 2006.

F-35/JSF production totals are more likely to be in the 4,000-5,000 aircraft range than the 6,000 sometimes cited.

Eight other countries have agreed to invest a total of $4.375 billion over the next 10 years in the $25 billion Joint Strike Fighter program. Britain has pledged $2 billion, and is the only "Level I" partner in the program. Italy has pledged $1 billion as a Level II partner, and the Netherlands has also pledged to invest $800 million, also becoming a "Level II" partner. The "Level III" partners include Canada [which pledged $150 million], Denmark [$125 million], Norway [pledged to invest $125 million], and Turkey [pledging $175 million]. Australia has also expressed interest in the program.

On May 28, 2002, Memorandum of Understanding documents were signed by the Danish National Armaments Director and the Under Secretary of Defense for Acquisition, Technology and Logistics, committing Denmark to participation in the Joint Strike Fighter (JSF) system development and demonstration phase. The commitment spans a period of 10 years.

On June 17, 2002, the Netherlands also committed itself to the JSF's system development and demonstration (SDD) phase by exchanging with the Department of Defense memorandum of understanding (MOU) documents. These MOU documents were signed on June 5, 2002, on behalf of the Dutch Cabinet at Soesterberg Airbase (NL) with the Under Secretary of Defense for Acquisition, Technology and Logistics countersigning the MOU documents in Washington, D.C. on June 10, 2002. As a result, the Netherlands will invest $800 million [€ 848 million] in the SDD effort. The Netherlands has been part of the JSF program since 1997. The Netherlands became the fourth country to join as a JSF SDD phase partner, and the first 'Level 2' partner. The Dutch commitment spans ten years. For the previous two and a half years, the Netherlands had conducted a rigorous technical and financial analysis of potential candidates to replace its F-16s. In both assessments, the JSF ranked first.

On June 20, 2002, the Norwegian National Armaments Director and the U.S. Under Secretary of Defense for Acquisition, Technology signed memorandum of understanding documents committing Norway to participation in the Joint Strike Fighter system development and demonstration (SDD) phase for a period of ten years.

On June 24, 2002, the Italian Secretary General of Defense and National Armaments Director and the Under Secretary of Defense for Acquisition, Technology and Logistics signed and exchanged memorandum of understanding (MOU) documents for Italian partnership in the Joint Strike Fighter (JSF) System Development and Demonstration (SDD) phase. Under the previous Concept Demonstration Phase (CDP) MOU from 1998 to 2001, both the United States and Italy had benefited from JSF ship suitability efforts and associated environmental studies. The Italian government was, as a result, to invest $1.028 billion [€ 1.09 Billion] in the SDD phase. As the senior Level II partner, Italian Air Force and Navy personnel is to occupy five positions within the JSF Program Office. These individuals are to be working together with the United States and its international partners, as well as the JSF air system and engine contractors, to develop an affordable system ready for transition to production.

In late June 2002 the Australian Government decided buy Joint Strike Fighter aircraft. Australia intends to buy up to 100 aircraft, at a cost of more than US$ 4.5 billion [$8 billion Australian], to replace Australia's aging F/A-18s and F-111s. In October 2002 Australia committed to provide $150 million for development of the F-35. Eight nations have pledged about $4.5 billion to join the United States in the $25 billion development phase of the program.

On July 11, 2002, the Under Secretary for Defense Industries of the Turkish Ministry of Defense signed a $175 million memorandum of understanding (MOU) for Turkish partnership in the Joint Strike Fighter (JSF) systems development and demonstration (SDD) phase. Turkey had taken part in the JSF's concept demonstration phase (CDP) to begin its association through foreign military sales for $6.2 million. As a CDP partner Turkey gained significant insight into the program concepts and requirements definition and participated in various capabilities modeling and simulation events. Included in these efforts was a life cycle cost control study, an important area of consideration for the Turkish Air Force that examined the changes to Air Force logistics that should be accomplished to support their JSF aircraft. As a Level III partner, Turkey will participate over the next 10 years of the systems development and demonstration phase.

The original plan was to build 3,002 JSFs in three versions for the U.S. Air Force, Navy and Marine Corps and the British Royal Air Force and Royal Navy. As of late March 2002 the Pentagon was reviewing a proposal to cut JSF production by 400 aircraft and limit the Navy's F/A-18E/F acquisition to 460 aircraft versus 548. The JSF reductions, which would be split about equally between the Marine Corps STOVL and the Navy's carrier versions, would reduce JSF procurement by the Navy and Marines from 1089 aircraft to 680. The Navy cut would reduce the total buy to about 2,600.

Recent DoD working groups and conferences have begun to question community acceptance strategies for some new weapons systems. In particular, the Joint Strike Fighter may face a variety of challenges in several potential beddown locations. The aircraft generates an extraordinary amount of thrust from its single engine, and according to preliminary analyses, does so at some cost in noise and air quality. Preliminary analysis of the San Diego area has revealed air quality limitations that may preclude unrestricted operation of the STOVL (Short Takeoff, Vertical Landing) version of the aircraft that will be procured by the USMC. The highest thrust settings for the aircraft’s F-119 engine will occur during transition to and from vertical flight. Noise and emissions, especially of oxides of Nitrogen (NOx), may exceed those encountered in any equivalent engine.

By the end of 2003 it appeared that the cost of developing the Joint Strike Fighter, a radar-evading jet, could increase by as much as $5 billion, to $38 billion, and the project could fall more than a year behind schedule. The increase would be mostly because of the higher-than-expected cost of developing parts of the technology and the addition of new capabilities for the fighter jet. Part of the additional cost would be to add anti-tampering technology to the plane, which would prevent foreign buyers from replicating sensitive systems. That could add $1 billion to $2 billion to the program's budget. The proposed increase would also put aside more money for unforeseen changes in design requested by the military or for development problems. The Joint Strike Fighter is expected to be the largest weapons program in Pentagon history, ultimately costing nearly $200 billion. The first fighter is expected to enter service in 2008.

According to the DOT&E, weight growth is a significant risk for all three variants of the F-35 JSF. Aircraft weight is not a key performance parameter, but weight does impact the aircraft’s ability to satisfy key performance requirements. No variant of the F- 35 JSF design exceeds the weight at which key performance parameters predictions are breached; however, the STOVL design remained consistently above target weight projections. The JPO has been aggressively pursuing weight reduction initiatives. Additional aircraft weight reductions are required, particularly in the case of the STOVL variant, to satisfy all key performance parameters and preserve sufficient weight reserve for post SDD block upgrades. The F-35 JSF Program SDD schedule is aggressive and aircraft weight reduction efforts have eroded a significant portion of available development time. The first flight of the U.S. Air Force conventional takeoff and landing variant will be in 2005, followed by the STOVL variant. This schedule is very challenging. The F-35 JSF Program should remain event driven with continued weight reduction efforts and design optimization before producing SDD test aircraft. The decisions the JPO face at this point in the program are significant drivers to cost and performance limitations through the life cycle of an aircraft.
 

Hey Viper,

I think I saw this plane on the Military Channel about six months ago . . . In my opinion it closely resembles the F22. Correct me if I am wrong, but the best thing about this aircraft along with its Vtol is the fact that it can go supersonic unlike the Harrier that is limited to the thrust that the lift jets can produce. BTW, congratualtions on your upcoming retirement.

Did you get a chance to see the beginning of the second half of the season of SG-1, Atlantis and Battlestar? I hope my synopsis that I emailed you was enough for you to get the general idea about the shows.

I will talk to you later.

SG-14

Actually SG14, I'm not retiring. I'm getting my own command in Hawaii. I'll have the rank of Brig. General. And you are correct in every way about the F-35. It's a great plane. I've seen it fly before. It looks amazing!

Is it too late to sign up for the class?

Collins, it is never to late to join the class. However I have one rule about the class. I have to assign you a (dun dun dun dun... Lighting flashes with wolve howling in the backround) callsign. What should we call you? Bevis? No! Let's see... how about Steel? How's that sound. You seem to have a strong personality so I think this would be perfect. So, From now on you will be known as Steel. Congradulations. This is a big step in your training my young Padawan. Listen well, you should. Just to let you know my callsign as you might of guessed is Viper. The reason for that is because I got bit by one. I was stationed at Edwards and a snake wassome how able to get through the wheel well area and was down in the rudder petals. Sure enough he bit me right on the calf. Luckly, it was young and it couldn't give out a leathel dose to a human. In the end though I won. Some one had a pair of those trash tongs, brought him out and I shot him. I know it wasn't the right thing to do but I was mad and that's how we did things back then. Well, enough about me. I will post again about dogfighting soon. See y'all later!

Steel, awesome! I like it.

Hell, I would have shot that snake too. There is nothing wrong with that, he shouldnt have been there in the first place. But at least you got one of the best callsigns someone could have. Viper. Doesnt get much better then that.

Thank you Viper, I look forward to your next class.

Okay now. Lessions, lessions, and even more lessions. Today's lession is communications. Here we go.

Now as you know, communications is a vital part of combat. I'll be teaching you how to talk while in the air. For an example I'll use the code name Hawk for me and Thunder for combat flight command. You ONLY use your callsign when talking to your wingman. Here's the example:

Me: Thunder, Hawk 1. 3 Bogeys. MIG-29. Clear to Ident?

CFC: Hawk 1, Thunder. Clear to Ident. ROE in full effect.

Me: Thunder, Hawk 1. Copy. Clear to Ident. ROE in full effect.

Basically what I'm saying is, is that I've come across 3 MIG-29's. I'm asking to get a visual comfermation. What the CFC is saying "ROE in full effect" means Rules of engagement. Meaning, DO NOT fire until fired upon.

Here's another example:

Me: Thunder, Hawk 1. Bingo. Requesting vectors for recovery.

CFC: Hawk 1, Thunder. Copy. Turn right, heading 214. Call final.

Me: Thunder, Hawk 1. Copy. Turning right to 214 (after a certain time). Thunder, Hawk 1. Final.

CFC: Copy. Clear to taxiway and hold.

Long story short, I'm landing. "Bingo" is an internation term for low on fuel. Recovery is the word we use for land. Final means you are close to land but not there yet. You tell the tower this to insure that there is no aircraft on the runway. Trust me, you don't want to land on a stationary plane.





Here is a example where I'm working with an AWACS, lets call it Sentry, and I'll have a few wingmen working with me.

Me: Hawk flight, go fingertips on the right.

Hawk Flight: Two. Three.

Me: Sentry, Hawk 1. Hawk flight is available.

Sentry: Hawk 1, Sentry. Flight of 2 SU-27's. Cleared at 004 @ Angels 3.

Me: Sentry, Hawk 1. Hawk flight copys. Cleared at 004 @ Angels 3. Weapons and nose hot.

"Fingertips" is a kind of formation. When the flight say their #'s that means they copy. "Weapons and nose hot" mean that my weapons are armed and my attack radar is on passive. Meaning that I'm scanning the skies for hostiles.



Here's one last example. Lets say that I'm engaged and that I have an enemy attacking me from behind.

Me: Sentry, Hawk 1. Declare! Hawk 1 is defensive. Requesting relief.

Sentry: Hawk 1, Sentry. Copy. Support inbound. ETA 3 mins.

Me: Sentry, Hawk 1. Copy. Hawk 1 is on Guard.


"Relief" is what we use to ask for help or to have a different flight take over. "Guard" is an international signal/frequency that is used for emergency situations.

Here's the lession. Have fun with it.
Colonel Viper24
Commandant of Air Combat and Space Training Command

Cool lesson Viper!

Viper, Steel 1, Lesson read and understood

Steel 1, Viper. Copies. 2 ZSU-37 threats at 035. 4 miles. Go pickle hard on target.

Viper, Steel 1. Copy. 2 ZSU-37 in sight at 035, 4 miles. Commensing attack and de-pickleizing the targets.

Steel 1, Viper Flight copies. Viper Flight of 4 new heading @ 305 Angels 5. Flight of 5 SU-37 Terminators inbound to intercept Steel 1. Weapons hot. Repeat, weapons hot. Select target and fire on best full effect.

Viper, Steel 1 copies, Firing for full effect.

Steel 1, Viper. SAM SA-9 launch. Duck and roll! Duck and roll! Change heading to 035.

Viper, Steel 1 copies, taking evasive action. Changing heading to 035.

Viper, Sniper 1 copies, taking evasive actions. Heading changed to 035.

I'm in Hawaii. Here's the low down on what I'm in charge of.
The C-17 Globemaster III is a high-wing, four-engine, T-tailed aircraft with a rear loading ramp. In 1980, the U.S. Air Force asked for a larger transport that could be refueled in flight and use rough forward fields so that it could fly anywhere in the world. On Aug. 28, 1981, McDonnell Douglas won the contract with its proposal to build the C-17. The design met or exceeded all Air Force design specifications, and the huge transport was able to use runways at 19,000 airfields. The C-17 is built in Long Beach, Calif.

The first C-17 squadron was operational in January 1995. Since then the C-17 fleet has amassed more than 75,000 flying hours and has been involved in numerous contingency operations, including flying troops and equipment to Operation Joint Endeavor to support peacekeeping in Bosnia and the Allied Operation in Kosovo. Eight C-17s, in 1998, completed the longest airdrop mission in history, flying more than 8,000 nautical miles from the United States to Central Asia, dropping troops and equipment after more than 19 hours in the air.

With its 160,000-pound payload, the C-17 can take off from a 7,600-foot airfield, fly 2,400 nautical miles and land on a small, austere airfield in 3,000 feet or less. The C-17 can be refueled in flight. On the ground, a fully loaded aircraft, using engine reversers, can back up a 2 percent slope.

During normal testing, C-17s have set 33 world records, including payload to altitude time-to-climb and the short takeoff and landing mark, in which the C-17 took off in less than 1,400 feet, carried a payload of 44,000 pounds to altitude and landed in less than 1,400 feet. Boeing is under contract with the Air Force to build and deliver 100 C-17s through at least 2008.

In May 1995, the C-17 received the prestigious Collier Trophy, symbolizing the top aeronautical achievement of 1994. In February 1999, President Bill Clinton presented the nation's top award for quality -- the Malcolm Baldrige National Quality Award -- to Boeing Airlift and Tanker Programs, maker of the C-17, for business excellence.

C-17 Globemaster III home page

Specifications First flight: Sept. 15, 1991
Model number: C-17
Length: 173 feet 11 inches
Height: 55 feet 1 inch
Wingspan: 169 feet 10 inches
Weight: 277,000 pounds
Maximum takeoff gross weight: 585,000 pound
Power plant: Four Pratt & Whitney 40,500-pound thrust engines
Range: 2,762 miles
Cruise speed: 0.77 Mach
Service ceiling: 45,000 feet
Accommodation: 102 troops or paratroops; 48 litter and 54 ambulatory patients and attendants; or 170,900 pounds of cargo
Crew: 2 flight crew, 1 loadmaster
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Here's some more info. This Is the complete specs from Boeing.com
Technical Specifications
GENERAL DESCRIPTION: The C-17 Globemaster III is a high-wing, four-engine, T-tailed military transport.
EXTERNAL DIMENSIONS
Wingspan to winglet tip 169.8 feet (51.74 m)
Length 174 feet (53.04 m)
Height at tail 55.1 feet (16.79 m)
Fuselage diameter 22.5 feet (6.86 m)
ENGINES
Four Pratt & Whitney PW2040 (military designation F117-PW-100) 40,440 pounds thrust each
CARGO COMPARTMENT
Cargo compartment crew One loadmaster
Cargo floor length 68.2 feet (20.78 m)
Ramp length 21.4 feet (6.52 m) structural length
Loadable width 18 feet (5.49 m)
Loadable height (under wing) 12.3 feet (3.76m)
Loadable height (aft of wing) 14.8 feet (4.50m)
Ramp to ground angle 9 degrees
Ramp capacity 40,000 lbs. (18,144 kg)
Aerial delivery system capacity
Pallets Eleven 463L pallets (including 2 on ramp)
Single load airdrop 60,000 pound platform (27,216 kg)
Sequential loads airdrop 110,000 pounds (49,895 kg)
(60 feet of platforms) (18.29 m)
Logistic rail system capacity Eighteen 463L pallets (including 4 on ramp)
Dual-row airdrop system Up to eight 18 foot platforms or 12 463L pallets
Combat offload All pallets from ADS or logistic rail systems
SEATING
Sidewall (permanently installed) 54 (27 each side, 18 inches wide, 24 inch spacing center to center)
Centerline (stored on board) 48 (in sets of six back-to-back, 8 sets)
Palletized (10-passenger pallets) 80 on 8 pallets, plus 54 passengers on sidewall seats
AEROMEDICAL EVACUATION
Litter stations (onboard) Three (3 litters each)
Litter stations (additional kit) Nine
Total capability (contingency) 36 litters and 54 ambulatory
COCKPIT
Flight crew 2 pilots
Observer positions 2
Instrument displays 2 full-time all-function head-up displays (HUD),
4 multi-function active matrix liquid crystal displays
Navigation system Digital electronics
Communication Integrated radio management system with communications system open architecture (COSA)
Flight controls system Quadruple-redundant electronic flight control with mechanical backup system
WING
Area 3,800 sq. ft. (353.03 sq. m)
Aspect Radio 7.165
Wing sweep angle 25 degrees
Airfoil type Supercritical
Flaps Fixed-vane, double-slotted, simple-hinged
WINGLET
Height 8.92 feet (2.72 m)
Span 9.21 feet (2.81 m)
Area 35.85 sq. ft. (3.33 m)
Sweep 30 degrees
Angle 15 degrees from vertical
HORIZONTAL TAIL
Area 845 sq. ft. (78.50 sq. m)
Span 65 feet (19.81 m)
Aspect ratio 5.0
Sweep 27 degrees
LANDING GEAR
Main, type Triple Tandem
Width (outside to outside) 33.7 feet (10.26 m)
Tires 50x21-20
Nose, type Single strut, steerable with dual wheels
Tires 40 x 16 - 14
Wheelbase 65.8 feet (20.06 m)

Does it come with its own CD player?

lol

Hey guys, I found a pretty decent flying game.

SkyBolter3

It don't need no stinkin' CD Player. This plane is one of the best in the world. I dare you to find any plane that can best it. And where do you think you're going to find it.. France?

It don't need no stinkin' CD Player. This plane is one of the best in the world. I dare you to find any plane that can best it. And where do you think you're going to find it.. France?

Maybe if I wanted a plane that would crap out on the runway. Then yes, I would look in France.

If I wanted to find a better plane, I would look here

Okay I'm talking about cargo planes NOT fighters. But, that is a good pick collins.

I'll post another lession soon. I don't know when though.

Hey, you said plane, not what kind of plane.

Cool, I look forward to the next lesson.

That's not the point.

STANDBY FOR INCOMING TRANSMISSION...

LISTEN UP EVERYONE! THERE WILL BE A "LESSION" TODAY AT 3:00 PACIFIC TIME. I NEED EVERYONE HERE. IT WILL TEST YOU ALL ON EVERYTHING THAT I'VE TAUGHT. GODSPEED EVERYONE!

BY ORDER OF COLONEL VIPER24

END TRANSMISSION...

Hey, im here!

STANDBY FOR INCOMING TRANSMISSION...

HERE'S TODAY'S "LESSION". I AM GOING TO SET UP A SITUATION AND YOU MUST COME UP WITH A RESPONCE TO IT. MEANWHILE YOU MUST ALSO COMPLETE NESSESARY OBJECTIVES TO RECEIVE A MISSION COMPLETE STATIS. HERE ARE YOUR OBJECTIVES:

1.) YOU MUST DESTROY 4 ZSU-27 AAA GUNS
2.) YOU MUST DESTROY 1 ARMORED HANGER
3.) YOU MUST DESTROY 1 AIR CONTROL TOWER
4.) YOU MUST DESTOY BOTH RUNWAYS
5.) YOU MUST SURVIVE

HERE'S THE SCUTTLEBUTT ON THE AREA AND WHAT YOU WILL BE UP AGAINST:

YOU ARE WITH A FLIGHT OF 5 F-15E STRIKE EAGLES. THERE ARE OTHER FLIGHTS OF F-15's, F-16's, AND A-10's WITH YOU. YOU ALSO HAVE A KC-10 TANKER AND AWACS WITH YOU. YOU ARE TO SNEAK INTO ENEMY TERRITORY AND DESTROY ENEMY AIR FIELD FACILITIES AND DEFENSES. THE BASE IS LOCATED BY ANOTHER NEARBY AIR BASE AND NAVAL PORT. YOU WILL BE PLACED 10 MILES FROM THE BASE. AT 5 MILES THERE WILL BE A COMPLETE COVERAGE OF MOBILE SAM SITES PROTECTING THE BASE. AT 1/2 A MILE YOUR FIRST OBJECTIVE WILL BE OPERATIONAL AND GUNNING FOR YOU. THERE IS ALSO AN AIR DEFENSE SQUADRON OF 7 MIG-21's, 9 SU-27'S, AND 12 HIND-27 ATTACK HELICOPTERS. THERE IS ALSO A FLIGHT OF 4 MIG-27's FROM A NEARBY BASE PATROLING THE AREA WITH THE ADDITION OF ENEMY SHIPS CARRYING SAM WEAPONS.

HERE ARE YOUR WEAPONS THAT YOU MAY SELECT FOR THIS MISSION:
AIM-9M Sindwinder
AIM-120 AMRAAM
AIM-7 Sparrow
GBU-67 Cluster bomb
Blu-87 Low Yield Nuclear Bomb
AGM-88A HARM
JDAM
JSOW


THIS IS YOUR "LESSION' FOR TODAY. POST YOUR RESPONSES HERE. BE SURE TO GIVE DETAILS ABOUT THE MISSION. I'LL POST MY RESPONSE WHEN AT LEAST THREE REPLYS SHOW UP. GODSPEED.

COLONEL VIPER24 SIGNING OUT...

I have a question. Are we suppost to just plot out a strategy for the mission?

Example

First im going to take my squad of F-15's and we are going to take out the SAM site with "such&such weapon, while the A-10's take out the runway.

Something like that?

You are "flying" in the flight of F-15's I mentioned. Tell me what you would do to complete the mission. Tell me what weapons you will use as well.

Col. Taxo Reporting!

Good to hear. Start working on the lesson.

the C17, does it have similar controls to that of the CK10?

I've logged a few hours in the simulator for that.

I've even gotten to see the simulator for the F15-E. My best friend's father in High School was a retired Col that used to instruct on those. I used to want to be a pilot growing up, too bad I'm legally blind

Wow, I shall try my best. this is going to take some thought.

Thats awesome, where did you get to use the Simulators?

I'm not to sure. I haven't flown the KC-10 or C-17.

Does this have to be done tonight?

I know how i should complete my objectives, but I dont know what to do about the 20 enemy planes, and 12 heli.

A lot of planes and helicopters are still on the ground. And no you don't have to have done by tonight. Take your time with it. Think before going into action. It will help you stay alive and complete your mission.

OH, they are still on the ground. OK, that helps. Alright, I will think about it tonight, and I will post it when i get home tommorrow after school.

Good to hear Collins. See you tomorrow!

See you tommorrow Viper!

1.) YOU MUST DESTROY 4 ZSU-27 AAA GUNS
2.) YOU MUST DESTROY 1 ARMORED HANGER
3.) YOU MUST DESTROY 1 AIR CONTROL TOWER
4.) YOU MUST DESTOY BOTH RUNWAYS
5.) YOU MUST SURVIVE


At 5 miles from the Base. First my Squad of F-15's would take out the SAM missiles located 5 miles from the base using AGM-88A HARM misslies.

The F-16's will provide support by ingaging all Enemy fighters. Using AIM-9M Sidewinders, AIM-120 AMRAAM, and AIM-7 Sparrow missiles depending on Range of the enemy.

at 1/2 mile from the Base. The 2nd Squad will take out the AAA sites using AMRAAM HARM missiles.

At the Base. My Squad will take out the Control tower with JDAM missiles. While the A-10's take out the Runways with GBU-67 Cluster Bombs. 2nd squad will use a few JSOWs to take out the Armored Hanger.