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InstructorMax
Posted: Oct 7 2009, 08:02 PM


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QUOTE (odam2k @ Oct 7 2009, 03:13 PM)
I'm on holidays this week and my sleep cycle is all screwed up so I was up all night last night and managed to get the whole "wing cutting" thing figured out...


http://www.vimeo.com/groups/amac/videos/6947844

Looks like 5 sets of wings from a $10 foam board...  rough estimate.... thats the foam, not including the stringers etc...

Now that's a different technique!

Suggestion- I noticed you could have the foam block drift up/down during the cuttting process. I suggest a piece of board be put on top of the foam and a weight on the board to keep the foam from rising up/down while running the cutter.

I'm from the same school as Dave- I cut wing rib templates for root and tip and pin them to the foam, then we cut along the templates.


For wings that need a spar channel- we also cut them into the rib template and cut them at the same time as the rest of the wing.

In your case, an easy way to do it is to simply use a router and a yardstick as a saw guide. Use the appropriate diameter router for the width and set the depth to the thcikness of the spar. . Align the yardstick from wingtip to wingtip to position the router on the 1/3 chord line (or 1/4 if you prefer...) Then cut....Should be done in 15 seconds!

I've got a router if you need one
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odam2k
Posted: Oct 7 2009, 08:29 PM


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Well, I didn't know any better technique, so I just made it up icon_mrgreen.gif

I'm also building a plane to use the wings, it's a hand drawn enigma, since I couldnt trace the parts, since the plane is already built... This time as I cut out the parts, I traced them onto a piece of paper... When I figure out how to scan them and reprint them without shrinking them, I'll post them.

Perhaps we can make a few more mods to it and call it our own... the official AMAC Combat Plane....

I changed the tail a bit, have to see how it flies...

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I'm not sure yet which way I'll put the fin on yet... Backwards looks cool, but you could turn it around the right way, and it would catch streamers in the little hook at the top...

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davecrash
Posted: Oct 7 2009, 08:37 PM


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taking all these pics is a real pain.....LMAO

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ParaKev
Posted: Oct 7 2009, 09:25 PM


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Has anybody tried one of these flying wing combat planes?

No streamer, direct contact. yikes.gif

http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1052384

To many videos to count in this thread, but I suggest you watch the combat video, and the speeded up assembly video, to see how these guys work with foam.

If you are not into combat these planes also do bomb drop. icon_mrgreen.gif

Kev
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odam2k
Posted: Oct 7 2009, 09:40 PM


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Those look like they would just be fun to fly... I've bookmarked the thread.
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davecrash
Posted: Oct 8 2009, 10:51 AM


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QUOTE (InstructorMax @ Oct 7 2009, 09:02 PM)

For wings that need a spar channel- we also cut them into the rib template and cut them at the same time as the rest of the wing.


I tried it that way but found I got a better over all cut of the wing doing the spar channal seperately. I heard a computer power supply can work as your source. The first few templates i cut, I made the leading and trailing adges flat. I found by not making them flat i had a ledge on which to start the Hot Wire on.
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InstructorMax
Posted: Dec 4 2009, 09:10 AM


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QUOTE (odam2k @ Oct 5 2009, 07:00 PM)
Sign me up! 

How many wings will we need?  Whats the limit of people, we'll use that as a guideline...


QUOTE (ABonk @ Oct 6 2009, 01:51 PM)
i am soooo in! and are we building the whole thing? like obviously id have to have the motor reciever and servos and stuff, but is part of the workshop installing all those?


QUOTE (davecrash @ Oct 6 2009, 08:43 PM)
I'm in.... cool.gif


QUOTE (bvaintroub @ Oct 6 2009, 11:29 PM)
Count me in too, please.

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QUOTE (DaveandGarry @ Oct 7 2009, 12:04 PM)
I'm in...how about a little paint ball cannon in the nose?  Sign me up for 2x planes.


QUOTE (Wildlabman @ Oct 7 2009, 01:39 PM)
I'm in....

Chris


QUOTE (newrc @ Oct 11 2009, 10:06 PM)
count me in also, thanks thumbsup.gif


QUOTE (MikeWise @ Oct 22 2009, 09:09 AM)
im in


QUOTE (rickyboy @ Oct 22 2009, 12:40 PM)
Hey Max I'd love to sign up but if there is snow I will be sledding. I'll still pay the 20 bucks and try and make it


Thanks RickyBoy thumbsup.gif


QUOTE (Avi Persaud @ Nov 2 2009, 06:21 PM)
Hey Max, sign me up for the combat plane workshop wink.gif


QUOTE (Tiago @ Nov 3 2009, 11:28 AM)
I'm in!


QUOTE (stowaway @ Nov 3 2009, 01:47 PM)
i'm in
Colin



QUOTE (Kevin @ Nov 12 2009, 08:11 AM)
Max,

Please count me in... Looks like fun. thumbsup.gif  thumbsup.gif

Thanks,
Kevin Shapiro


First entry Updated Dec 4.

I think we have reached our limit, There are 2 others that have expressed an interest.
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stowaway
Posted: Dec 4 2009, 10:27 AM


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Is the thought here to build a balsa style plane like the enigma or caution with a gas or electric.
There is a movement a foot, again drive by Richard to build what is called a foambat.
It is and electric that is built out of 3/16 foam core.
Idea is cheap and repairable at field.
I presently have 4 cut and ready to assemble. Will keep you posted

This may well be the future.

Just and fyi
Colin
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InstructorMax
Posted: Dec 4 2009, 11:13 AM


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QUOTE (stowaway @ Dec 4 2009, 10:27 AM)
Is the thought here to build a balsa style plane like the enigma or caution with a gas or electric.
There is a movement a foot, again drive by Richard to build what is called a foambat.
It is and electric that is built out of 3/16 foam core.
Idea is cheap and repairable at field.
I presently have 4 cut and ready to assemble.  Will keep you posted

This may well be the future.

Just and fyi
Colin

Yes, the workshop is for the nitro 15 size wood and foam combat planes, similar to the "Enigma" or the "Caution". Slight modifications will yeild the "Decapitation"

Wood box fuse and balsa sheet tail

Foam core wings with wood spars.
Some people have put electrics in them but I'm guessing most people flying the slow combat will use nitro

Foambat looks interesting, Electric option makes it simple.

Things change. Maybe electric will become its own category. for now the workshp will be for the wood/foam nitro planes

QUOTE (stowaway @ Dec 4 2009, 10:27 AM)
There is a movement a foot, again drive by Richard to build what is called a foambat. 


Who is Richard?? user posted imageuser posted image
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stowaway
Posted: Dec 4 2009, 11:28 AM


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Richard Starton is the guy behind Slow combat.
He designed and sold the enigma and caution and now foambat.
Out of RC flying club of toronto.
http://starontech.com/slowcombat/
His sole purpose in life is to have fun and promote the RC hobby/sport

Also
Not that anybody wants to come down to the big city but if you want you could host this event at my shop. We have a sign making department so lots of open space and 4 x 8 working tables etc.

Kwik Kopy Design & Print Centre
263 Adelaide Street West
Toronto, ON M5H 1Y2

Just an offer.
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